Post # 1
Im trying to figure out if I know nothing about photography or if my photographer is not that great. Our ceremony is at 7 pm. Sun set is at 7:30. He doesn’t want to start pictures until 6 because he says low light is the best. No pictures until 6. The reception starts right after the ceremony. 6 is when the church lets our their mass for just those that attend church. So a mob as we take pictures.
I told him we need to start at 2 because we want bridal party pictures and a first look.
We are paying for 10 hours and it ends at 12.
He said we can start at 2 pm but we can only take inside photos. He says it’s just too bright before 6 pm to take pictures.
I’m so confused. How do people have early and day weddings?
Post # 2
A professional photographer worthy of the name can take pictures any time of the day (or night!). You work around the light rather than set rules that make it impossible for clients to get the picture coverage they need.
I will say that blindingly bright and sunny conditions are challenging but as a professional, you should know exactly how to deal with them.
It doesn’t sound as if your photographer is very experienced to be honest and I’d be wary of how he deals with low light too because that also requires a certain technique. Have you seen much of his work because I can’t believe you will be the only couple who have wanted daytime wedding coverage?
Post # 3
I don’t know anything about photography either. I know during our engagement pictures our photographer said that the light just before sunset is the best for photos because it’s “softer”. However, I don’t understand why you can’t take photos earlier. I’m sure time of year and place in the world makes all the difference, but our wedding was during the day in the winter and he took pictures of our venue and my dress/shoes outside at like 3 o’clock and they came out great.
I’d just tell him you understand it’s not the perfect light for your most important photos, but you’d like to take photos all day outside. If you want a first look, do it! On your wedding day, that photographer works for you!
Post # 4
Honestly you’re not going to be getting super harsh light at 2pm anyway and if your photographer needs to change his settings around to accomodate for the light then thats what needs to be done. That seems like such a bizarre request to me, especially considering that you want a first look.
The light conditions may not be perfect, but honestly they rarely are! If he can’t cope with that then I wouldn’t trust him.
Post # 5
Milo22: Oh good grief. Is drama queen a gender neutral term?
Yes, the light is harsher in mid day. As Steampunkbride: said, a good photographer can make the best of challenging conditions.
Where are you having your first look photos? Is there a shaded area?
Post # 6
We did our first look, in the shade, at 2 and it was perfectly fine! It wouldn’t have worked as well in the sun, partially from the photography side and partially from the squinty eye side. but find some shade and you should be fine.
Post # 7
Milo22: So you want outdoor photos? Yes, he could take the at 2pm, but he would need to find what’s called open shade. Any decent photographer knows that. Basically in a shady spot, but not way under something like a tree. Maybe a bank of tall bushes is throwing some shade, or a building. Here’s a not great example. See how the light on the right is soft on her face? Yes, he should definitely be able to find some of that. Easy peasy.
Post # 8
While it is true that a good photographer needs to be able to work in challenging lighting conditions, your photographer is telling you the truth about the light being best 1-2 hours before sunset. Obviously it’s not realistic to completely base a wedding timeline on that, but unless it’s overcast 2pm can actually be an extremely harsh time of day for photography if you aren’t in an area with even shade. High solar noon (the time when the sun is at it’s highest points) creates shadows in peoples eyes, squinting, and is obviously unfavorable. You can do your best to position people with their backs to the sun, but unless you want the backgrounds blown out you’re then talking about assistants, reflectors, and/or powerful flashes to defeat the sun. All of that stuff is possible, but not always realistic for a wedding photographer. Indoor or evenly shaded areas are going to be your friend at that time of day. Timelines should be a balance of you being able to enjoy your day the way you want it, without actively working against the photographer you’ve hired to make you look good. The sensible compromise is that if you have no flexibility in the schedule, to find a good spot that has some cover so the people being photographed are comfortable.
Dogsbody92: Actually you can get super harsh light up until about 3 or 4pm depending on location and the amount of cloud cover on the given day.
Post # 9
Milo22: PS- even if you did go way uner a tree and it was shadier he should be carrying around se of these (reflector) to throw in a bit of light to reduce shadows on the face and under the eyes (used to work for a photographer)
Post # 10
I always tell my clients, I can shoot in any lighting condition. Is it ideal? No, but if I have to make it work I do. HOWEVER, no matter how great your background is, it doesn’t mean a hill of beans if no one can keep their eyes open. I can bring along all the lighting I want to combat the harsh sun and elements, but if your family and bridal party can’t keep their eyes open there is nothing I can do about that. While I think waiting until 6pm is a bit extream, I would say that starting around 5pm (if that would make you feel better) should suffice. I can’t imagine starting at 2pm and shooting portraits until 7pm. That’s insane.
If you want to do a first look and start early, you need a pick a location that has plenty of space and open shade.
Post # 11
Just as others said, yes, the light will be a littler more harsh at 2pm, but not unshootable. But, I’d suggest waiting until maybe 3 or 4 for you first look if the ceremony doesn’t start until 6. It shouldn’t take longer than an hour or 2 max to take wedding party photos