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Just want to preface this by saying Piddles & all pups are ok.
So here's what happened, the ex-owner of Piddles came to visit the puppies today. She was taking 1 puppy to her friend who lives a few hours away. The friend already was approved by me to have a pup & so everything sounds good, right? So wrong.
Ex-owner said since Piddles was her dog, the pups were hers too & she had 5 people who wanted puppies who she wanted to sell them to. She didn't know their contact info. I refused. She got really upset. It was just very dramatacal, for hours :(. I don't have any of the rescue group's numbers, its all been done by emails, so didn't know how to get backup. I told her face to face 6 weeks ago that if I keep the puppies past 2 weeks, I'm taking over re-homing the pups completely & I'm approving homes & I guess she forgot that part of the convo. Anyways, she's already left with just the 1 pup.
I'm sorry to add more drama to the boards, I just wasn't expecting this & am still kinda recovering cause I was afraid they'd try to bring the law into it & it would've just been a huge horrible ugly mess :(. But things are fine so no worries!
Oh wow. Glad to hear Piddles and the pups are ok and that everything seems to have worked out ok.
@serabell: Thank goodness you stood your ground. Sounds like ex-owner cares about one thing, and it sure ain't the pups!
This has been a saga girl! Hope your stresses are over very soon!
This is my way of venting, I'm mad that I had to be so stressed today. There was other stuff about this, a verbal "fight" (not with me, I wasn't there for that) & some friends were put in the middle & the ex-owner was too emotional to talk with me about any of this, so this whole conversation required a friend "mediator", I was ok talking with her but she wasn't ready. Other stressful things happened, but I won't list everything... it was just one horrible mess. I'm just so angry that she did this. She said she was fine with everything before, she never said one word about wanting to take extra puppies until she showed up.
I loathe the ex-owner more and more every time I hear about her. What an irresponsible b-word. After she takes absolutely no interest in Mama P. or her pups and eventually decides to surrender Mama P. because she doesn't feel like shelling out for the vet, she has the gall to try and reclaim the pups to sell them to random people she probably hasn't even properly screened?
People like this scare me. I've said this a million times already, but serabell, I am SOOOOOOO glad these sweet dogs have you looking out for them instead of the former so-called owner. Lord only knows where they might have ended up just so she could make a buck.
Thanks you guys. Today was supposed to be a day of getting thank yous ready & updating the website. Today failed.
Sadly, I anticipate this saga will continue til all the pups have homes. She is getting those people the puppy applications this weekend so they can send them to me & so we'll see...
I promise I don't like drama! I somehow manage to avoid all drama, except with animals recently. I feel like my life is just one large drama explosion right now.
I think she was wanting to recoup some of her costs, she put a few hundred into Piddles in the beginning (food & shots & 1st vet visit). Then she gave her dog up. So, I think she was hoping to sell the pups to pay herself back? I'm not quite sure.
Okay, so she paid a couple of bills before she called it quits. Big whoop. I'd have had a lot more respect for her if she just admitted from the start she couldn't support Piddles long-term, not waited until Mama P. was so sick that no shelter would take her.
I'm so sorry you're having to compensate for her ignorance. Argh, she just makes me so mad!!! You can't just take or leave a pet when it suits you!
I can't believe she had the gall to show up and say she had the right to rehome those pups!!! I'm pretty sure I would have had her escorted off my property ASAP. Sarabell, I don't know where you got such a stockpile of patience, you need to share your secret with the rest of us!!!
She's been rude from the beginning. I remember her telling you that you could keep the money to pay you back for keeping piddles and vet costs and then was going back on it.
I'm sorry you have to go through this. I would look over the applications she gets, but would probably not give those people puppies. Yes, I'm spiteful like that. She's being a wench. I hope you cut off all contact with her after this.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! WHERE DOES SHE GET OFF THINKING SHE HAS ANY RIGHT TO THESE PUPPIES?!?!?! I wanna smack her sooo badly!
Good for you for standing her ground. ESPECIALLY since she herself abandoned her responsibility. I'm really curious as to all the other stuff that went on, but I understand if you don't want to share ALL the drama on message boards. Just know that you have the full support of all of us here in the board in keeping the pups.
It still amazes me though that ANY of her friends want puppies...are these not the same friends who couldn't/wouldn't help Mama Dog?
I want to smack her too. Good for you for standing your ground.
....now can we have more puppy pics?
@bakerella: +1!!!! I'd have done the same as you, Bakerella!!!!!
@serabell: lady, you have the patience of a SAINT!!!! You don't just deserve a medal, you deserve an monetary reward, vacation, and statue put up in your name!!!! I hope that's the last you have to deal with ex-owner, too! hugs to you, the pups, and Momma dog!!!!
@bakerella: Ditto.
@serabell: You're doing the right thing (as you've done all along). Stay strong for the puppies and Piddles, they need you to do the right thing by them. And seriously, you are a saint.
I can't believe the gall of this woman!! To show up after everything you've done and think she has any right to those puppies (or any money collected through re-homing them)?? Is she insane??
Good for you for standing your ground and I agree with the PPs that you have the patience of a saint. I don't know that I would trust giving puppies to any of her "friends", no matter how good these applications might look. They didn't have the responsibility or care to help with Piddles/Penelope when the "owner" needed it so I don't buy that they have the responsibility or care to take care of a puppy either.
Forget about slapping the ex-owner. Anyone here have Mafia connections? I'm sure we could find a good solution. 
My blood is totally boiling on your behalf! She has been super selfish throughout this whole ordeal and now expects to waltz in and demand you do things her way?!? She has totally abused your friendship and is clearly not someone who should be allowed animals.
I've said it before and I'll repeat it now. Bless you for being such a decent person regarding mom dogs and the cow pups. The world needs more people who would go out of their way to ensure the welfare of innocent creatures, so for that you have my wholehearted respect.
@GreenEyedMoon: LMAO!!!! Now THERE is a solution! but... I don't think a Craigslist ad would work.... (totally off topic, sorta, but supposedly a woman in my area POSTED AN AD to try and hire someone to off her husband!!!! NO JOKE!!!!)
I hate that girl so much and I've never even met her! I'm very happy you stood your ground. Those puppies are YOURS you have done so much for them since the day they were born and she has zero right to them. Hell, in my mind she had zero right to Piddles after the way she neglected her and cast her aside. I am so sorry you had to deal with additional drama. That little brat should have been on her hands and knees kissing your feet, thanking you for all the things you have done. At least the Bees appreciate everything you've done! :)
Wow. I just spent sometime reading your story. That is awsome you did all this. you should keep the donations open still to help with the pups cost for now. I really don't think you should have given her the puppy to take, I mean she kind o sounds shady how do you know she got to the right home? Don't let her near the puppies she has no rights to them at this point. I would just try to find them homes at this point and keep the donations open to help pay for their expenses in the mean time! Goodluck
@dolphi99: Yea things are ok for now, so that's good :)
@tksjewelry: I'm too protective of them to let them go to just anyone!
@Mrs.tobe: Thank you, I can't wait for drama-free life!
@linguo42: I'm pretty sure she would've kept all money & if she trusted just anyone who could pay than I'd always worry about the pups. I know, she just quit on her dog. I know it was the best thing for Piddles, if the owner couldn't afford anymore bills... but she didn't even try to help find somewhere else for her to go.
@bakerella: I was shocked too! If she were anyone else I probably would have been much more blunt & direct & probably told her to leave. But she's the sister of my best friends so I was trying to keep the peace.
@BackyardLoveBird: Well she re-imbursed me for the beginning costs but then surrendered her dog & expected me to pay for everything else & deal with her dog. I love Piddles, so I helped Piddles out by not letting her go to the pound, wasn't doing that for the owner. I told her before (this is before she surrendered her dog & before she got seriously sick) that the puppy money would go to re-imburse costs & she should be completely re-imbursed. So its gonna be "fun" when I later tell her she gets nothing because I'm covering my costs first. I realized that over the past 3 months I've driven over 325 miles for Piddles/pups.
@Miss Apricot: I sent you a PM. Also, yea no relative or friend could take Piddles (they're even in the same town as where Piddles was from, 5 hours north). However, everyone wants one of her pups. It makes me a little sick. So either Ex-owner didn't try as hard to find a new place to go, or her relatives/friends want puppies not dogs.
@Ayslinn87: Yesterday was supposed to be picture uploading party, but that mess happened instead :(. I will put some up later this evening :).
@Zinzerena: Awww you're sweet, thank you :). I am kinda taking a mini vacation on the 4th of July weekend! But I think Ex-owner may cause drama until all pups have new homes :(.
@mspony: Thank you, after all the time/energy/care I've put into the pups I'm too protective of them to let someone who "left their dog for dead" to take the pups.
@Mrs.KMM: I originally told her the puppy money would go to cover all costs (before serious sick dog/her surrendering), but I'm paying myself back 1st. Honestly, after I calculated the cost of gas, puppy supplies, missing work, food, re-screening my door & fixing my lawn aside from the future vet bills... I'm not sure I'll have any money to give to her.
@GreenEyedMoon: lol!
@Ivyperks: Yea she did later apologize for being emotional & said thank you for helping Piddles too but that's it. I feel like I have this grudge against her but once the pups are all re-homed I'm sure I'll be ok... just will be awkward if I see her again.
@assilem: Ya know, I was ok (thou mad & frustrated) that she barely communicated with me throught the past 3 months. Especially once her dog got sick & she was complaining about the vet bills. But the way she handled giving up her dog just destroyed me giving her any sympothy.
@EllaLooDesigns: I trust she'll deliver the puppy because its to her friend's sister & she's going to that town this weekend. I would have delivered the pup myself 4th of July weekend but I told exowner last week I was ok with her delivering this 1 pup. After the ex-owner pulled what she did, I almost didn't let her take him but I talked it over with friends & decided it would just make things way worse. Plus adopter ok'd me giving the pup to the Exowner for transport. I'll know this weekend what happens.
Ok now the ex-owner is making me PROVE the money she had given me went to Piddles. Well, I broke it down BEFORE she paid me anything. Its just hard because all the food receipts are scattered randomly throughout the house. At least the vet keeps a file of everything. Plus DH has been doing a lot of cleaning & I hope he didn't put some in a wierd place or throw them away.
I'm just SO mad now. She took up my ENTIRE day yesterday now I have to spend time going to the vet & looking through the many messages sent over the past 3 months trying to find all the places where I broke down everything before. Just a vent, I'll calm down soon enough...
I would cease all communications with the ex-owner. She doesn't have a leg to stand on with respect to the puppies. I would document all of your costs, and the communications you have had with the owner in case she tries to pull crap, but otherwise, no answering her calls, emails, etc. If your friend questions you, make her know that you are done with the drama, that the ex-owner is to have nothing to do with the puppies, and that her actions have caused this outcome.
Let her take you to small claims. She doesn't have a leg to stand on.
@serabell: I seriously hate this woman.
@GreenEyedMoon: Too bad my husband's grandfather isn't still around. He was a Sicilian cement finisher :)
@serabell: This girl is out of her mind. Obviously she is just trying to scam up some extra cash. I agree with PPs, just tell her firmly that she surrendered the dog and that you will not be dealing with her anymore. Then just don't respond to anything other than issues related to the one puppy she is rehoming, and after that's settled cut off contact (I'm sure she'll recognize that action since she was so good at it herself). I know it's a little easier said than done, but don't worry--no matter what she says/threatens/whatever, BackyardLoveBird is right, she doesn't have a leg to stand on.
This is a toxic person and you don't owe her money, explanations, anything. If you hadn't tried to get in touch with her, she would never even know about the puppies. If your friends don't understand how she has taken advantage of you, they are not your friends.
I wouldn't worry about her taking it any further. I'm sure the vet's office will vouch that they've never laid eyes on her and all payments have been coming from you.
I've been following your story about Piddles and the pups. All I can say is you are truly a wonderful person for all you have done for them. I have so much respect for you as a person for everything that you've put up with.
As for the ex-owner, I agree with those who have said to cut off contact with her. Make sure everything is ok with the one puppy she took but that's it. You definitely do not deserve all the drama she is stirring up right now.
I agree with the PPs - ignore her. She doesn't have a leg to stand on to try to make any claims or demands on you and there is no need for you to show her proof of anything. Don't waste your time catering to her.
Uh she left her dog in your care.
You don't have to prove shit to her.
The money is considered Child Support/Pup Support REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT WENT. PERIOD.
I wouldn't scramble around for this girl. You owe no sort of explanation whatsoever.
She sounds like she is trying to get you to pay her back and that's bullsh*t. I seriously would wash my hands of this girl if she can't trust you as a friend to be honest with her than she isn't being honest with you. She sounds quite shady.
What EXACTLY doe she THINK the money went to? Bonbons and booze? All those times you messaged her saying the dog was sick and needed to see a vet...she just assumed that was your cover story to wring more money from her? Some people. She needs to GROW UP.
My friends are standing by me, they understand & agree with my side, but they're just trying to make peace because its their sister. They know I'm doing the responsible & right thing. So to help out my friends I told them the other day I could send the vet bills. Instead, they just said to FB message the breakdown of the total cost of Piddles. If it weren't for my friends I would have just said "I already told you where it went on FB" & done nothing more.
So I sent ex-owner a breakdown of EVERYTHING I did for her dog & found out she owed me more before she even surrendered Piddles. At the end I said I also drove over 300 miles/missed a few days of work/my screen door was broken/etc. I was very straight-forward because she kept saying she was confused where her money went. I took her dog in mid March & she didn't pay me anything til mid May (I covered it & she paid me back 2 months later) & the next time she had her sister pay me & that's it.
& I understand wanting to know where her money went, but she never contacted me over the past 3 months for anything else. I had to contact her for everything, even good updates. She wouldn't return my phone calls, she would take days or a week to email me back. I was trying to tell her that her dog was very sick & she ignored it. I could go on & on about many other things, but I need to stop or I'll upset myself.
We'll see what happens next... if she wants an actual vet bill, she can call my vet & ask for it, I'm not wasting more of my time on this. Mostly its the stress of it that I can't handle.
@serabell: I'm so sorry to hear she said that after ducking out on everything already!
Part of the reason I'm upset is that the owner was able to find 5 homes for the pups (I didn't let them go, so they're still with me) & yet she couldn't find someone to take in Piddles... its kinda depressing.
@serabell: Everyone wants them when they're little, cute and healthy. Older, sickly, or any kind of behavioral problem, and you get ignored, abandoned, or put down. Most people can't be bothered to put in the effort for an animal who's seen better days if they don't already have some sort of attachment to it. There is a very special place in my heart for the few people who will make that effort.
I become more and more angry every day that I'm stuck in a building that doesn't allow pets...I keep torturing myself looking at all the sweet furballs that need homes on my local SPCA's website and wishing I could adopt even one of them.
Everyone wants them when they're little, cute and healthy. Older, sickly, or any kind of behavioral problem, and you get ignored, abandoned, or put down.
Exactly! And what happens if the puppies get sick? Or need spaying/neutering? And puppies need shots. Are they willing to shell out the bucks?
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