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I haven't seen it, but I wouldn't pay a big price for a dress that's missing half the fabric it should have...
She does have some beautiful dressier dresses though.
But I do not like attitude. From anyone, good designer or not.

Couldn't agree with you more....She is always on and when looking at her dresses I don't think "wedding" I think....

The other thing I notice about the show (which I love btw) is that they often times put the brides in the same dresses. I feel as though I'm watching a dress rehearsal with different actresses (brides) you know what I mean...

@noritake22 - - there are 2 new episodes every Friday night. It just started again a couple of weekends ago. So if you're home tonight check'em =)

The sad thing is that the MAJORITY of Pnina's dresses in most seasons aren't the see-through ones, which I hate.  Most of them are gorgeous, luxurious twists on classics.  But they continue to show the stripperlicious see-through ones because they shock people and the brides who get them are usually...definitely characters.  It is a TV show after all.

I met Pnina at Kleinfeld.  She was nice to me, but then I was trying on one of her dresses and was seriously interested in buying it.  And I am gonig to buy it, so it bothers me that people have such bad impressions of her designs over what is shown on SYTTD.  The samples of the more classic Pnina designs I tried on were basically TRASHED so I know a lot of people must be interested in them and probably buy them, but I've only seen something that resembled my dress on SYTTD twice.  

Pnina's always on the show because she's there at least several days a month and she probably has it in her contract with them that if they're the only place in the USA that can sell her, they have to work their asses off to promote her.  And probably also because they want viewers to lust after some of the most expensive dresses in their store and hopefully, some will come in and buy them!  

Here's my dress by Pnina, btw, I've posted it a million times but I just want to add good credit to her name.  I'm having sleeves added and the bodice changed to lace--I'm not a fan of beading on myself.  

Her dresses really are magnificent.  The construction is to die for and the fabrics are sooo fine.  As someone who'd been obsessed with clothing, textile, and fashion history and who's stood in museums for hours to stare at the House of Worth's early couture, I really dug this dress because it reminded me a lot of those exquisite Victorian-era dresses.  I think she's a brilliant, careful, thoughtful designer, as much as I dislike her stripper fairy dresses, but hey, she's definitely got people talking about her and her designs.

I didn't see the episode, but one of her striperella gowns was featured on a bride in a Houston wedding magazine.  FI saw the picture and thought it was a joke or a Halloween costume.  He about died when I explained how expensive the dress was and how the bride had to go to NY to get the dress.  

@amarie: she is famous for her over-the-top, sheer bodice ball gowns sold for outrageous prices. However, she also makes other dresses, such as the one veganglam posted.

Really, the dresses we see by her most often are the most outrageous ones, because they add shock value, which is great for TV ratings. 

Take a look at some dresses from her runway shows from the past few seasons:

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2010/07.htm

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2010/09.htm

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2010/02.htm

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2010/18.htm

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2009/01.htm

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2009/08.htm

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2009/16.htm

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2008/02.htm

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2008/05.htm

http://www.pninatornai.co.il/img/b2008/16.htm

Interesting embellishments and attention to the lay of the fabric, but nothing extreme.  If they'd been in another designer's collection, tons of bees would be like, "oh! how beautiful.  very nice dress."  I've certainly seen a million more gaudy dresses by Maggie Sottero, and yet those are never criticized. If you look at Pnina's collections in their entireties, you'll see that almost none of the dresses have the sheer bodices and chaotic, enormous, child-eating skirts!

It's silly and immature to say that all people who buy Pnina Tornai's dresses are brand whores.  You could say the same thing, and, in my opinion, make a better case, about people who buy many of Vera Wang or Monique Lhullier's designs.  A lot of them are quite simple and there are dresses that look very similar at every price range, and yet VW or ML's dress can cost up to $10k as well (more with lots of crystals, beading, etc.).  And yet no one criticizes them!  Now, I believe there is truly a difference in the quality of the average $10k dress and $1k dress, so I would never say that, because I believe a bride opting for a simpler dress but still wants luxurious fabric, expert tailoring, etc., should opt for the Vera Wang, and that doesn't make her a brand whore.  It makes her someone that respects the fact that well-made clothing has an art to it.

Furthermore, if you look at non-wedding dresses made by luxury brands, from Marchesa to Chanel to Lanvin to whomever, they will cost the same price or MORE for the amount of fabric and detail that goes into the dress.  I could walk into a Chloé boutique and pay $8k for this dress off-the-rack, or I could pay $9k after haggling and have my measurements done by Pnina Tornai herself, and have a dress that incorporates more fabric than the above Chloé dress, plus some beading, custom-made for me.  If you think luxury goods are always too expensive, well, that's your opinion, and I might agree with you a bit, but I also acknowledge that I personally am not going to change the industry standard for luxury good costs and so I know that if I want it, I'm going to have to pay up.

I don't like all of Pnina Tornai's dresses.  No other dress by her would have been in my top 30 list of contenders, if I'd made one.  But I respect what she does, even if some of her dresses are really, really not my style, because she's bringing the world of couture to the world of wedding dresses, which helps give the world of couture a fighting chance in an age where everyone's got a short attention span and a desire for throwaway fashions.  I believe that creative, well-made clothing should be recognized as art (something I argued for from my early teen years, when I believed I'd choose fashion historian/writer as a career, and lately I've been considering following that path again), and I believe that Pnina Tornai makes art.  So that's my take.   

Some girls like simple dresses, but I'm not one of them.  I like my dresses to be interesting to look at.  Pnina Tornai provided that for me, with the period-piece feel that I love.  I loved that dress before I was engaged, before I knew who the heck the designer was, before I'd heard of SYTTD or Kleinfeld.  I love that dress purely because I find it incredibly beautiful.  I think a lot of girls might feel the same way about their Pnina Tornai dresses.

I think that she does have talent...some of her dresses are very classy and pretty...but I agree that there is no excuse for that diva attitude of hers. she sounded like a 5 yr old throwing a tantrum on that SYTTD episode.