Post # 1
First, let me just say the title sounds a little more dramatic than what actually happened. I just couldn’t think of a better way to put it bluntly and quickly into a title.
I am on summer break and going into my last year of nursing school. We were just given our clinical assignments (which hospital we are going to), and I was very sad to see I did not get my first choice. They base our clinical site off of where we live. The site I wanted is closest to me than any of the other sites. Not only that, but this hopsital is one of the major hospitals in the state, and the other options (including the one I got) are smaller, community hospitals. I was so excited because I knew there was only one person genuinely closer to the hospital that I wanted than me, so it was very disheartening to see that not only did I get a smaller hospital, I am going to the exact same floor I was two semesters ago.
I realized that the way 3 of the students got the major hospital was because they lied about where they live. They said they live in the same city while realistically they live over an hour away. Not only am I disappointed that I did not end up at the hospital I wanted, I feel so wronged that these students lied and got what they wanted.
I’ve been debating about speaking with the instructor and explaining what I know. Of course, I’m afraid that I am going to come off as whiny and as a tattle tale, and I’m going to give myself a red flag for the semester because of it. On the other hand, I’m disgusted that these students are rewarded for lying (getting the hospital choice they wanted), and I had been honest and got shafted. I’m paying for my education out of pocket, I want the best experience I can get, and I feel like due to their lying, I am not getting that opportunity when I otherwise would have. There is no guarantee that the instructor would switch people around, even if they did learn the students lied. What should I do?
Post # 2
I’d speak up. From the angle of “I live very close to Hospital X, I was surprised to see that I was assigned to Location B. I am also concerned that my previous clinical experience was here at Location B. Is there any way this can be reviewed and changed?”
I was in your exact same position. Drove me batshit crazy, because yes, you’re trying to secure the best possible experience & education YOUR money can buy!!!
You need to advocate for yourself. And you can do it in a diplomatic way that doesn’t involve dragging others into it. If your school or clinical instructor seems hesitant or even dead set against switching locations for you, simply drop the generic idea that perhaps going forward, if clinical locations are indeed based on student residential location, “actual residential addresses should be verified beforehand…”
Post # 3
SneakyBee: I’m not going to vote because the advice I’m going to give you isn’t up there. I work in a small, 100 bed rural hospital currently. I’ve also worked in a larger, metro hospital. You learn so much more at a smaller hospital because you do not have all the fancy equipment to work with. You work with bare basics and this really shows how much someone has learned. Big hospitals are nice but they are easy. You want a challenge and want to really see how much you’ve learned? Work at the smaller hospital, I promise you it will make you a better nurse. I wish you well in school, no matter what your choice is!
Post # 4
Are you sure they base the clinical site on where you live?
Post # 5
Sweetjennygirl: I think if I decide to approach it, I agree that is my best angle. To be as objective as possible and if it won’t change now, change it in the future.
woobie8709: There’s definitely nothing wrong with small hospitals! I work at a local hospital. But this particular place is grossly different from where I want to go. The floor at the major hospital is a specialty that I want to work in. The smaller hospital is the same floor I was on previously, and I had some terrible experiences to the point that I would never let a family member go to that hospital. I’m talking ignored, worsening pressure ulcers, bad med reconciliation, nurses treating patients very poorly, and they would double us students up just to help them out (with a bariatric patient for example) while we should have been getting 2 of our own patients.
peachacid: Yes, I am positive. =/
Post # 6
How do you know that they lied? There could be any number of reasons that they got the clinical site you wanted. Perhaps they gave them the city where their parents live, or their boyfriend/girlfriend; and they often stay with them the night before clinicals. Maybe they have to pick up their kids at a certain daycare after clinicals and want the site to be near it. I mean, there are seriously hundreds of reasons they said they lived in the city that they did. Of course, if they admitted to lying just to get the hospital that would be one thing, but I can’t tell from your post if that is what happened.
I graduated from nursing school recently and remember very well how assignments are made. I’m sure every school does it a little differently, but in general, it can be very hard for faculty to place students. Our school went by location at first, but after that we went wherever made sense, I was not always at the closest hospital to where I lived. Sometimes I drove to much farther away hospitals so that other people would not have to drive even farther to get there. Sometimes I got placed at the worst hospitals, on the worst floors, with the worst clinical instructors. But you know what? I still learned a lot there.
I guess my point is that sometimes you have to deal with the hand you are dealt. You are a student and will have plenty of learning opportunities anywhere you go. Nursing is often about making the most of bad situations.
Post # 7
Follydust321: They told me they did. They wanted that hospital and one of the students has a family member that lives in that city, so they used that. That address does not match the address the use for the school, but it’s apparent that the instructors didn’t cross check the addresses. I have family that lives in that city, too, but I didn’t want to lie.
Post # 8
SneakyBee: That seems so wrong then. I think, based on that, if you wanted to say something to one of your instructors (preferably one you like:)) it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. However, I will say that they are only hurting themselves. You will be lucky enough to see how to be a good nurse, and what things you should avoid as a nurse. You also have an opportunity to truly be a help to the patients at the other hospital! Your care there will make a difference in their hospital stay, and that is a privilege. I wish the best for you, I hope you can eventually get a placement you really want.
Post # 9
SneakyBee: It’s not fair, but I’d keep schtum. I don’t think any good will come out of telling on these people
Post # 10
I totally agree with jennygirl that your main approach should be about your concern that your current clinical is at the same hosp as a previous clinical, narrowing the range of experience you will recieve from the program.
I would definitely go to the administrator and advocate for myself if I were you. After all, you’re paying thousands of dollars for this experience… I would not mention the cheating girls at all though. I would just try to get the administrator on my side by being nice and smart about it – “I’m sure you remember what it’s like to be a student nurse – I think it’s soooo important to get as wide as possible a range of experience to prepare myself for working as a nurse… one of the reasons I chose this program is because it has clinicals at several hospitals, not just one, and I really want to take advantage of that…”
Post # 11
Just deal with it. Complaining about other people won’t earn you any respect to say the least. Regardless of which hospital you get you will learn more your first week on the job than you will in a two semesters of clinicals.
Post # 12
Really??? You would tell on someone because of this? Girl, get your clinical hours and graduate. First of all, students who dont mind their business are the ones who make enemies, quick. And i doubt you want to be known as the annoying tattler in school (especially since these other students didnt do anything that really warrants reporting from you (like harming a patient). Second the people you told will KNOW you told, even if they dont act like they know. Yes, what they did wasnt necessarily right, but why get them in unnecessary trouble, just so you can play ‘moral police’? People like you are REALLY annoying. Life is not always fair, suck it up.
Post # 13
- Wedding: September 2015 - Bellagio, Las Vegas
Well, I am about to graduate from nursing school, so I’ll put in my two cents.
With the culture of my nursing school (and others that I’ve seen/heard about), it’s best to just accept things. If you come across as having issues or wanting to stir the pot, even in this way, you will get a target on your back from staff and students. I’ve seen it happen many times. It’s not fair, but that’s how it is.
With a smaller hospital, there are some advantages. You get to know people better and form relationships with the staff and managers. This could help you with getting a job.
Good luck! You’re almost there!