Posting a twenty cent tip receipt on social media – appropriate?

posted 2 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 2
Hostess
8680 posts
Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2014

I don’t know why he would post a picture of it, that’s just horrible.

I don’t eat out that often, but when I have, I’ve never had service SO bad that I left a tip that was under 20%. Servers live off their tips and I know they don’t make much. When I have a really good server, we always tip them very very well and leave a note thanking them for their service.

Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

I think we need to get rid of tip culture period.  It shouldn’t be a patrons’ responsiblity to make sure the employees of an establishment are paid. It should be the owner’s job.  That said, I always tip generously because a lot of “service” issues are beyond the control of the server.  We had “bad” service at a resteraunt and noticed the server running as much as they could “run” in the space.  He were the only server on duty and they had 7 tables.  I wonder how many bad tips he got for “Bad service” when he were doing everything they possibly could. 

Post # 4
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2015

i’m so tired of dumb shit going “viral.” like seriously every little thing gets posted on social media for people to turn into a gender issue, a wealth or class issue, a race issue, etc. i highly doubt this tip had anything to do with ANY of those things…some people are just shitty tippers. some people are shitty waiters. and it happens every day; thanks, media, for making it “famous!” /rant over.

i never tip less than 20%. my thinking is that, if have a bad day at work my pay doesn’t get docked. so i refuse to dock someone else’s for stuff that is probably not their fault–the kitchen gets your order wrong, server gets docked. an annoying table of 7 who’s running server ragged while they’re trying to keep everyone happy keeps them from refilling someone else’s water the second they run out, server gets docked. it’s a hard job. i’ll always tip 20%, if you’re great i’ll definitely tip you more.

if you are so terribly horrifying at your job that i wanted to tip you 20 cents, i would ask to speak to your manager instead. i’d still tip you maybe like 15%, but honestly if it was SOOOO bad that 20 cents seemed like a reasonable tip, i probably would have left long before i ran up a bill.

Post # 5
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

I heard that the restaurant has been recieving lots of flak for this. I think if it wasn’t a pro athlete with lots of fans everyone would say what an ass he is and be on the restaurant’s side possibly even going so far to give money to the waitress, but since he’s famous, people stand up for him.  Joe shmo who gives a 20 cent tip is an asshole and people cannot.

I don’t think either is appropriate and think tips should be done away with.  A tip should be that, showing gratitude for something, nit mandatory and part of a wage.  

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper

While I find paying only a 0.03% tip pretty egregious (unless the service was ridiculously bad), if McCoy didn’t advertise it and it was the restaurant called him out, I think that’s pretty distasteful of the restaurant. 

FWIW, according to this article, McCoy said that the servers were “rude and disrespectful” while the restaurant says McCoy was rude to them — well, who knows the real story. http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/09/watch_lesean_mccoy_says_he_left_20-cent_tip_to_send_a_statement.html

So I think it was pretty rude of him to only tip 20 cents (even if I have bad service, I never tip under 15%), but I think it was ruder of the restaurant to call him out for it on social media. Unprofessional and frankly, bad for business. I wouldn’t go there.

Post # 7
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6515 posts
Bee Keeper

Misswhowedding:  Totally agree. I sometimes wish I lived in Europe or somewhere where tipping wasn’t so expected. There are so many situations where I just have no idea whether I’m supposed to tip or not and have to Google “do you tip a ____” on my phone frantically.

Post # 8
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2015

I’ve only ever tipped bad less than a handful of times. I only do it if the service is so bad that I even complain about it (I’m usually benefit-of-the-doubt girl). The most recent time I did it was because our waitress visited us 4 times during the entire ordeal. 1st time – To get our meal and drink order written down. 2. To drop off our drinks. It took her almost 20 minutes. My SO & I went to go play a few games at the arcade right after she took our order and made sure to come back 10 mins later. Then SO and FBIL went out for a cigarette and came back, then a few mins later, we got our drinks. Only 3 of us mind you. 3. To drop our food off. 4. We had flag her down so we could get the check after we had eaten and sat around talking for another 15 mins or so. There were 2 other tables with people and another waitress was helping them and we know she wasn’t working at the bar because that was our first stop before eating.

Even after everything though, we tipped her $4. 

My opinion? If you make your living off of giving good service or putting a smile on your face or dealing with me as a customer, then you better actually do your job. Why should you get paid for something you didn’t actually do? 

Also – if the service is so bad that it effects our tip, I also leave a note as to why they got the low tip. For that waitress, I told her to actually visit the table more and be more attentive.

Post # 9
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Helper bee

Misswhowedding:  This. I’m not sure why I’m supposed to be responsible for a person’s wages because an employer is unwilling to pay them.

Post # 10
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: TBD

Just throwing this out here, if you dont want to tip your server and think the restaurant owner should pay a living wage then you’ll probably be paying 20% more for your meal anyway so what’s the difference? If the owner has to pay more than $2.83/hour then they’re going to pass that cost increase onto the customer. Plus, if servers get paid a set wage like everyone else, where’s the incentive to actually be good and go above and beyond for the customer? It just wont happen. 

As for the Lesean McCoy incident, tipping 20 cents is awful. Most servers have to tip out around 10% of their tips to support staff so anything less than that, the server is paying for you to eat out. Basically, its unforgivable. HOWEVER, if you read the yelp reviews on this certain restaurant, there have been many complaints about terrible service, so I do believe the service was probably bad. But still, leave at least 10%

Post # 11
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2014

As a consumer, you’re going to pay that wage, either in the form of greatly increased menu prices, or in the form of a tip. To keep servers at more or less their current income where about 18% of their sales returns to them in the form of a tip, every menu item will go up probably around 30%. Why not just 18%? Business insurance, unemployment insurance, FICA, and other business expenses are billed, in part, on the amount of revenue a restaurant brings in. In other words, it’s cheaper to pay the tip because then the business does not pass along the cost of those other things to the consumer.

in an industry where the profit margin to many independant restaurants is around 4% annually (yes, that is four cents on yen dollar that the restaurant owner gets to keep), you will not see a significant rise in the current $2.73 hourly wage (or whatever it is) without an even larger increase in base prices.

so the answer to why are you subsidizing someone’a salary is because no one works for free. You will pay for it one way or another.

personally I prefer the concept of tipping because that makes it possible to pay based on the quality of the service. I would not want to pay 30% more than I already am! and get crappy service in return. Having travelled all over the world, I’be definitely observed a difference in service quality between regions where tipping is the norm and where it is not (unless you are talking top-dollar high end restaurants).

That said, if you’re pissed at your waiter, leave no tip. Leaving 20 cents is hostile and is more insulting than leaving nothing. Leave nothing, and you get your point across about the inferior service, without making it personal. And no celebrity should have any expectation of privacy. You make a choice to enter a life in the public eye and having your shitty tipping habits exposed in the media (social or traditional) should be expected.

Post # 12
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2015

As a member of they white race, I’d be upset if every bad thing a white person did anywhere was turned into some “racial” generalization. This kind if crappy behavior just further proves that stereotypes and racism continue to plague our culture (In spite of the ridiculous claims that it’s “over”. Sigh.)

 The guy might be a total douche. There are also douches from every other race. Wtf.

 

Post # 13
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

FutureMrsHodgy:  few reasons – if you are really interested I suggest listening or reading this freakenomics bit about tipping:

http://freakonomics.com/2013/06/03/should-tipping-be-banned-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/

In short it is racist, casue white girls get more tips than black ones for doing the same job.  So if you have any interest in paying equal wages you’d be against tipping.  Just becasue they ahve no incentive dosn’t mean they are rude.  Are the salespeople rude to you in Macy’s?  Starbucks?  even Mcdonalds? sure once in a while, but even tipped waiters are too, but mostly they are pleasent people who arn’t working for tips.  So it’s a myth that customer service would be reduced.  Plus sometimes I wish they wouldn’t try so hard.  

 

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: TBD

 

Atalanta:  I dont think race has anything to do with this. The black servers I know make just as much as I do. You are right though, I dont have any interest in equal wages. If you do a great job and give great service, you should get paid more than the other servers in their stations playing candy crush. THAT’S why tipping is important. 

Also, I didnt say rude. I said above and beyond. Abolish tipping if you wanna wait longer for your refill, or some extra napkins, or ketchup with your fries. If you want it promptly, keep tipping and always tip 20%. 

Post # 15
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

I think it was inappropriate to post the receipt. I understand that the waitress and the owner would both be upset, but it is totally unprofessional to publicize the tip left by anyone- large or small. That is between the customer and the server. If I was a patron of that restaurant, I would never return and I would tell them why.

I would gladly pay a good deal more for my meals to do away with tipping, or at least to have tipping be based on outstanding service, not just someone doing their job. Servers, like everyone else, deserve to be paid a living wage, and be able to count on what their income will be.

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