Post # 1
So some threads these last few weeks got me really thinking about my feelings about abortion and where the line is between terminating a pregnancy and killing a child. I am fully pro-choice and think legislating abortion is a slippery, challenging slope. My question a moral/ethical one NOT A LEGAL ONE.
Here is my personal struggle: Once a baby is birthed, if you do anything to lead to its death it is clearly killing/murder of some sort and unethical and wrong. But I personally feel the same way if someone were to abort a 9 month pregnancy. I know I feel that early in a pregnancy it is perfectly ok for a woman to abort a fetus, but at 9 months, that is now a baby, a child and aborting it is akin in my mind to killing it. So where is the line? At what point do you pro-choice bees think that – from a moral and ethical viewpoint- it is NOT OK to abort a child (again I am asking about what you think the law should say, just your own moral compass). At a certain point for me it goes from “her body her choice” to “not ok” – in the same way I would be upset if someone murdered an adult, or was abusing someone, I would be upset if I knew people were aborting 9 month old babies. Not necessarily what you would do if you were pregnant, but just generally what feels right.
EXCEPTIONS to this include if the mother’s life is at risk, if the baby has a terminal disease of some sort of if the baby will have no quality of life once born. I do not include Down’s Syndrome in this list of exceptions.
Post # 3
For me, I don’t think abortion should be an option if the baby can be delivered and live. I’ve never been pregnant, but I believe that’s around 24ish weeks. At that point, if the mother/parents don’t want it, then I believe it should be put up for adoption.
Post # 4
I’m going to weigh in only based on my own experience — I was born prematurely, at only 7 months (28 weeks). Aside from an extra-long hospital stay, I didn’t have a single health issue due to the premature birth. Because of that, I’m personally not onboard with late-term (elective) abortions.
Post # 5
@Boston Bee: Agreed. Once the fetus is viable, morally it does not feel OK to me to abort it.
Post # 6
@Gemstone: Agreed with exceptions, as Janna19 alluded to above, certain diseases can only be tested for in the third trimester.
Post # 7
Wow, I’ve never really thought about this. On one hand I believe that it’s a woman’s body and she has the right to choose (up to a point) but on the other hand I feel for the women who may not be able to conceive a child and would die to adopt. There are other factors with this as well, like if the woman was assaulted then I thinkthe has the right to terminate.
I personally don’t think I could ever morally abort a pregnancy knowing full well that the child is healthy.
Post # 8
I am extremely troubled by post-viability abortions, unless there are medical reasons. I would never try to write that into law, because I think it’s really hard to draw a line and say one day it’s ok, the next day it’s not. But ethically, I think it’s probably wrong past 5 or 6 months.
Post # 9
@Roe: Yeah, that’s what I was trying to cover the the “elective” note — unless medically necessary.
Post # 10
I would say (aside from major complications) my personal limit is 5 or 6 months. Even though 7months is viable, I personally could not do it past the 5 or 6 month timeframe.
Post # 11
I am pro-choice for others, and pro-life for myself. Simply put, I don’t think I have the authority to make the decision for anyone else, but morally I am very opposed to it for myself. I think after 3 months it starts getting questionable, as soon as the fetus could survive outside the womb, it’s wrong.
Post # 13
I am pro-life, so I voted accordingly in your poll. I am interested to see how pro-choice bees will respond to your question.
One very sincere (not politically motivated or snarky in ANY way) question I have always wondered is, for pro-choice women who want to be pregnant, at what point in their developing pregnancies would/does each woman consider her own (insert proper, technical, medical term for appropriate stage of fetal development here) to be a baby?
Strictly from my own personal observations (not scientific research in any way) of women in general, I think that, regardless of a woman’s position in the pro-choice vs. pro-life debate, if she willfully chose to try to conceive or is very happy to find out she has conceived, she seems to consider the developing (again, insert proper medical terminology here) to be her baby pretty much as soon as she discovers her pregnancy. This may not be true of some or perhaps many women, however. I don’t know.
Post # 14
I think my personal limit would be 4-5 months, anything after that I would have it and put it up for adoption if I couldn’t take care of it. Only exceptions being medically necessary (health of the mother, no quality of life, etc).
Post # 15
I agree with PP. I am also pro-choice for others and pro-life for myself. I did a research project in college about partial birth abortions and was horrified. I also have a friend who delivered her child at 5 1/2 months and the baby survived. So for me I dont think I could ever have one even though in the midst of a panic attack of thinking I was preggers, the thought actually crossed my mind and then quickly went away. I think once a baby starts to have organ development (I think its around 3 months) that abortion becomes immoral (personal opinion.
Post # 16
I look at “Will it suffer?”
Neurologically, although the exact date of this commencing is debated, I rely on neonatal perception. If it cannot feel pain, and has no concept or thought process to comprehend what “pain” is, then it cannot suffer. Past 28-30 weeks breaches my personal ethics, but I accept that there are reasons for individuals to terminate pregnancy at later dates.
It’s easy to argue that an embryo is a baby, but the reality is that it scientifically isn’t. It’s a bundle of cells. So as stated, I am very liberal minded up until the end of pregnancy. If your offspring is capable of surviving outside of your body, it should not be terminated.