PRO-LIFE BEES: What happens if the clinics close? Where do we go from there?

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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: January 2011

If clinics close, where do we go for all kinds of health-related stuff?

Post # 4
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

I think the most important thing you can do to reduce the number of abortions is to PREVENT pregnancies in the first place. I am as pro-choice as they come, but of course no one WANTS to go get an abortion.

Our focus should be on preventing pregnancies by educating EVERYONE (men and women alike) on the realities of sex and birth control. Personally, I think abstinence-only education should be outlawed. I’m not saying abstinence shouldn’t be taught IN ADDITION to comprehensive sex ed, but it should never, ever replace sex ed that that teaches young people what birth control is available, how/where to get it and how to effectively use it.

In addition to sex ed, we need more information and less costly access to birth control. Girls and women shouldn’t feel uncomfortable asking their moms or doctors about the pill or about IUDs. Men shouldn’t feel uncomfortable buying condoms. And ALL of these things should be available for free whenever possible.

Post # 5
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

@annb9:  All of this!
Not to mention the women that go to those clinics for other women’s health related issues.

Post # 6
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Buzzing Beekeeper

@Bridey77:  I’m pro-choice because I think it provides an option. Pro-life is all encompassing and thinks every woman should have every baby. Pro-choice doesn’t say every woman should abort every baby but that women deserve a choice over what happens to their own bodies. If cells aren’t viable outside my body, I don’t understand how it is a baby per say. Late term abortions make me a bit uncomfortable but I believe in choice so to each their own. 

I can still answer the question though. I assume you mean abortion clinics, not all clinics like a PP suggested. I think a system similar to Quebec where child care is $7/day would help all parents. Also, give out condoms like they are going out of style. 

 

 

Post # 7
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2015

@annb9:  +1

I’m about as pro- choice as they come. 

While there are some abortions that are necessary for health reasons and due to other circumstances such as rape- I think there ARE many abortions because women cannot afford to take care of their child.

In such cases- I think that they believe they are doing the best theycan for their child. 

If there were things such as better governmental support etc. these women, who may really love their child and not want to get an abortion but feel that they HAVE to, may have other options out there for them. 

Post # 8
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

@annb9:  I agree wth this 100%. Prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

Then stop with the punitative bull**** for actually having babies that a lot of “pro-life” politicians/ people I have known put in place (not all, but a lot – for example, consider the fact that a number of the states that refused the medicaid expansion are the same ones that push “pro-life”).

Don’t cut foodstamps/WIC, make sure all people have access to reasonable food (elimenate food deserts), ensure all women and babies have sufficient access to medical care, ensure there are daycares and preschools that are affordable/ free that are also high quality.

Stop looking down self righteous noses and stigmatising single parents. Find a way to raise wages so mothers aren’t trying to raise their children on >20k/ year.

I tend to stand by Bill Clinton’s statement that abortion should be safe, legal and rare. And I abhor the extremely common attitude of being “pro-life but only until it is actually out of the womb and then of course it deserves to be punished for having the audacity to be poor”.

Post # 10
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: January 2011

@MrsPanda99:  I’m not assuming this means all clinics.

 

I have never heard of a clinic that just does abortions though.  I’m pretty sure they are done at the closest hospital.  I’m pretty sure they are done at the university hospital.  There are done in clinics that offer other services.  Closing any clinic that performs abortions would be limiting other health services as well.

Post # 11
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

@AB Bride:  We shouldn’t assume anything. Just because there are no stand alone abortion clinics where you live doesn’t mean that’s not the situation elsewhere. We have them in BC and I know they have them in the US.

 @Bridey77:  If the clinics are forced to close beacause legal abortions are no longer allowed, we will be back to the situation we were in before. Poor women will risk septicemia and death to have a backroom abortion, and the rich will travel to where abortions are still legal.

Post # 13
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: January 2011

@julies1949:  I had asked about them and it sounds like there aren’t many if they do exist.  So what clinics is the OP talking about?  Any clinic that performs abortions or clinics that only perform abortions?

Post # 14
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

@AB Bride:  I suggest you ask the OP rather than asking me to assume what she is talking about.

Post # 16
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: January 2011

@julies1949:  Sorry, I meant for there to be a new paragraph.

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