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isn't it crazy how expensive they are!? you can for sure have a more affordable one now and a cheaper one later, but it would be purely decorative i think
@judithsr: I think it'd definitely be frowned upon. I mean if a ketubah is destroyed in a fire or something, I believe an Orthodox rabbi will require you to replace it, but except in circumstances like that, even among Conservative and Reform Jews, exchanging it for something prettier would seem to really devalue the traditional and spiritual importance of the document. But you should probably ask your rabbi--I'm no expert.
I feel your pain, btw! We looked and looked and couldn't find a ketubah that was perfect for us (we always either loved the design, but weren't wild about the text options, or vice versa) and we can't afford a custom made one, so we are making it ourselves.
I do have one suggestion you might want to consider: You could buy a text-only ketubah now, and later you could have someone custom decorate it in a style similar to the one your FI likes so much. Or, if you're worried they'll mess it up, they could probably hand paint custom matting to fit over it or something.
The prices of ketubahs are ridiculous! There are some "budget" options out there, though. We found text we loved and a design we liked here: http://www.mpartworks.com/index.htm and it's not costing us an arm and a leg. If you search for discount or budget ketubah, you should be able to find a few affordable options. They have mini ketubahs, too, which help cut down on cost. Try to do paper as opposed to canvas, etc.
Have you tried Etsy? We bought ours through etsy with wonderful results and I think it was only around $100 (which is A LOT less than some of the other places we looked). It's hand painted and we were able to come up with the wording ourselves since we couldn't find anything we were completely thrilled with. It's worth checking out!
Hi everyone. Thanks for all your feedback! It seems like the way to go is to either find a way to save up the funds or check out some of these other sites. :-)
@WonderTwin: Someone had suggested this site, and I forgot the link. Thanks for directing me.
@jodyblair: I'll have to check out etsy. Always a good place to look I know.
I think the struggle with this is also the fact that my fiance was so excited about this design, and honestly much of the wedding has been me saying how does this sound and him saying yes. So I feel bad about rejecting one of the few things he's really gotten excited about.
I think it'll somehow be figured out. :-)
I think it's technically a legal document as far as a religious court would be concerned. It contains language saying "on this day, at this time, in this place, we witness that...." If you intend to have it be legally valid, it can't be replaced later. Even if you didn't intend to be that serious about it, I'm not sure if your rabbi would be willing to sign a second one at a later time.
We are getting ours from jenniferraichman on etsy - http://www.etsy.com/shop/jenniferraichman She has a lot of lovely modern designs for $200. I know that's not the cheapest, but they are nicer than a lot of other options I saw at that price. There are a bunch on etsy for around $100 by other sellers.
If you or someone you know has artistic talent, you can order a ketubah that just has the text and decorate it yourself. That would be the cheapest option and it may be more meaningful to you that way too.
We also fell in love with a ketubah that was more than we wanted to pay. But we decided to go ahead and buy it, and I'm so glad we did! It's something that we will have the rest of our lives and it's a piece of art. Totally worth it!
Our ketubah from http://www.mpartworks.com/index.htm showed up today! We got a budget ketubah with personalization and protective envelope and it all cost less than $200. It looks great! We're really happy with it.
This is ABSOLUTELY FINE! Let me be clear, your Ketubah is traditionally, and literally, a legal document. The witnesses and dates matter. So, you don't ditch it to get a fancier one...BUT you can get an inexpensive kosher legal document today, and embellish it with artwork when you wish.
I make ketubot, and I have twice been asked to make a Ketubah that fits over the one from the wedding. In other words, I make the art, and leave a "window" in the exact size and location of the orig text. Put em together, and it looks like a single organic piece.
Look at this image http://tinskyart.com/Tinskyart.com/SS.html
The art, which is all papercut, was made ten years after the text and witness signatures.
I think that a few hundred bucks for original artwork is exceedingly cheap. People pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on a wedding, and they sweat over the cost of a Ketubah which survives the life of the marriage. No worries to spend $5k or more on flowers that you never see again, but people won't spend $1,000 on a custom piece of artwork that ties them to each other, their heritage, and the mandates of the Talmud.
I DO agree that it is excessive to buy a poster for $300. Most Ketubah websites have printed posters of unlimited editions. Why pay a fortune for a copy of a copy? Get a cheap one for nothing, or pay real moneyforreL art that you love.
We have spent as much on individual pieces of art (not Ketubah) as on a new car. If you love it and can afford it, buy it. You won't regret it.
YOU CAN USE A BLACK AND WHITE XEROX FROM KINKOS! I think my rabbi told me that is what they did and then later he bought her a beautiful heartfelt one several years later and had it framed, (like when their first son was bar mitzvah)
Its symbolic, like the handkercheif, and he's NOT really setting aside a year's keep for you now is he? Relax, get it later, or dont. Its YOUR insurance policy, first and foremost.
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So, I feel like I know the answer to this already, but I figured I'd ask just in case I'm missing something obvious.
In searching for a ketubah, we came across one my fiance really loves. Unfortunately, it's expensive. (Not expensive for a ketubah, expensive for money as is).
There's no way to have a "temporary" ketubah and then purchase another one later right? I was thinking it would be nice if we could spend less money now. Though, it may just take us scrapping some funds together huh.
Any thoughts...? Thanks :-)