Post # 1
I posted about this last Friday…here is a quick background for you all…..we are adopting a puppy from the shelter (yay!). She was found in an abandoned home with 13 other puppies, they came from a total of 3 different litters. They did NOT have a mom dog and were fed with syringes at first by the shelter, and have been on kibble/water for a bit. She is paper trained, but hasn’t had much outside time yet. She was living at a foster home with one sibling, but that puppy is soon to be adopted and leaving the foster home. They are guessing her to be around 6-7 weeks currently, she had a vet visit just this morning.
Now….this is where I currently stand……and my question for puppy owners is listed toward the bottom…..
The weekend was spent puppy proofing our home, paying the adoption fee, purchasing items puppy will need (we picked a name too! Libby.) We put a crate upstairs in our home (where we sleep) and one downstairs in a common area (living room where we hang out at night).
I got a call from the foster mom today who said they went for a check-up and booster shot at the vet, and the vet said they are older than expected. They are guessing between 6-7 weeks. Since she has no mother, and only one other littermate (who is also being adopted) they said we can take her “home” today.
I do not have the option of working from home the remainder of this week. I’m going to have to leave her from 8-noon and then from 12:30-4:00. I need to know – should I crate her during this time???
My other option would be to gate an area in my house where she can’t get hurt or get into anything and let her play/rest there. I can put the crate in this area and the total space will be about 4×4 feet. She is currently paper trained and hasn’t done much outside yet.
PLEASE tell me someone is out there and can help me!!!
Post # 3
@MrsD41503: a) 6-7 weeks old is still too young for a puppy to be adopted unless there will be no other dogs/littermates present. They learn so, so much during this time about how to interact with other dogs and people. They learn how to play, bite inhibition, and socialization skills. If there is ANY way to keep her with her littermate for even a few more days, do so.
b) The general rule of thumb for how long a puppy can ‘hold it’ is 1 hour for every month of age, plus one. Since this puppy isn’t even two months old yet, they can’t hold it for more than 2 hours. So a crate wouldn’t be the best option, your best bet would be the puppy play pen area. Just know that the longer you paper train her, the longer it’s going to take to fully potty train her.
I think the best option would be to try and postpone the adoption until at least Friday. You’re going to want to have time to help her adjust. It’s a big change for her to leave her littermate and foster family all in one day, and then have you leave tomorrow morning. It’s important to set up familiarity and routine during your first days with puppy.
Post # 4
@beeintraining: agreed, esp on the potty training. Keep in mind that puppies are like babies- before a certain age, they CANNOT hold it and no amount of “training” will help (just like you cannot pottytrain a baby.) Do you have any friends who work from home or stay home during the day? I know if I was home all day I sure would take a puppy to play with! You really can’t leave her alone for that long until she is about 12 weeks old.
Post # 5
@MrsD41503: I am a BIG fan of crate training with puppies. Especially when there will be upwards of 4-hour time spans when you cannot let them out. The trick is keeping them in a crate that is not too big for their size. *Most* pups will not poop in the place they need to lay down, so a well-sized crate would leave little room for them to be able to use the bathroom in one end, and sleep in the other. The same may apply for urinating as well.
If you are consistant with potty training outside, then the pup should be trained in due time. Make sure it is the first thing you do when they get up, or when you take them out of the crate, etc.
Post # 6
I think she’s REALLY too young to come home with you, they should be keeping the two pups together until at least 10 weeks but, if they say you need to take the pup then that’s what you hvae to do I guess.
Yes you should crate her. Not in too big of a crate, and not in a huge area. If you have a full grown size crate, you should shorten it, with a piece of cardboard etc, to give her just enough room to get up, move around a bit, drink some water, and lay down in a different position. being too open will scare her and isn’t comforting. Also it helps to have some low music playing or a clock ticking, this will also be at night.
Just so you know, it’s likely you won’t get ANY sleep if you have her in your room from the get go, so I’d expect to be crate training her from downstairs or even in the garage until she gets used to it. She’s likely going to cry a lot at night at first.
Post # 7
I really don’t have much of a choice. She will be in a tiny stacked kennel at the shelter alone until Friday, or at our house (where we can at least play with her in the evenings, mornings, and I can go home at lunch).
She had a vet visit today and the vet said she’s good to go. They do not know the exact age because she was found in an abandonded house with no mother dog. The other littermate is also getting adopted out. I do trust that the vet knows what he’s talking about, and I also trust that the shelter wouldn’t give us a dog that was too young for adoption. The foster mom (who is an employee of the shelter) has worked with plenty of dogs. I would trust that if they all say she’s okay to come to our house, that they are right. I do understand your cause of concern, though. But our situation isn’t typical I guess and we’re doing what is best for the pup. Or trying to, I think my home vs a stacked crate is the better of the two.
Post # 8
@MrsD41503: Your right, you don’t have many options and the situation isn’t ideal, but I think the puppy is much better off with you a week early as opposed to hanging out by itself in a cage at a shelter. I would crate train her from day one. We got our puppy at 7 1/2 weeks and she could definately go longer than 2 hours without having to go to the bathroom. She never peed in her crate once.
Post # 9
We got our puppy at 7 weeks (not our choice – we were raising her for a service organization). They are fully weaned at 5 or 6 weeks, so 6 or 7 is totally fine.
Crate is where she should be when you aren’t directly interacting with her, even when you are home. Take her out to pee, play with her, take her out to pee, put her in the crate for a nap. When she wakes up make her settle and be quiet, then straigt outside, then play. If she doesn’t pee – no playing, back in the crate for 10 minutes and try again. It’s pretty easy to crate/potty train puppies if you’re consistent.
Post # 10
I just keep thinking to myself…”WHO dropped off these puppies? Have they no heart what so ever?” our county has a no-kill shelter, they accept any and all dogs or cats, whatever animal you have, they’ll accept it. Really it’s just sad that someone didn’t use them as a resource. But hey, we’re getting a really cute doggy out of the deal and after a few months of proper training, we’ll have a camping/hiking/running/tv watching/friend for life! 🙂
Our cat is a rescue too, I found her on the side of the road with one brother. I brought her right to the shelter for medical attention and then adopted her out shortly after.
Post # 11
My pup came home at 7 weeks. My suggestion would just go with crate training. She may have some peeing in the crate but starting the routine from day one is preferable in my opinion. Good idea to have two crates – maybe sure you do training with both. My pup cried and cried in his crate until we moved it into the bedroom and then he was fine because he felt closer to us. Good luck!!
Post # 12
I’m no expert, but I’m going to go against what most PP’s said. I would gate an area in your house and have her use the paper when she needs to go to the bathroom for the remainder of the week. There is no way she is going to be able to hold it for 4 hours (2 maybe, but 4 -no) so you’re not teaching her the correct thing to do in the crate. I would save crate training for at night or on the weekend when you are going out for short periods so she can learn properly. Don’t you think it will just confuse her if you put her in a situation where she is for sure going to have to go to the bathroom…sounds like she’s being set up for failure.
Post # 13
@MadTownGirl: +1. I think it’s a bad idea to set her up for failure with crate training from the very beginning. There is no way she’s going to be able to hold it for 4 hours at 6-7 weeks. I’d gate off a small area, or use something like the enclosure below, and place her crate in there (leave it open), as well as puppy pads on the floor, a small dish of water and a couple of safe toys (think nylabone or Kong, nothing that the pup could destroy and choke on/swallow like rope toys or stuffed animals).
Good for you for rescuing!! Please please post pictures of your new baby and keep us updated! 🙂
Post # 14
We’ve always crated in the begining in the full sized kennel with a training pad and the snuggle pet dog (its a stuffed dog with a heartbeat and some have heat) to comfort new puppies. We never had issues with housetraining later on and our dogs love their kennels, preferring to sleep their than the couches. Puppies explore and I’ve heard that if they are given too much space they tend to get a paw stuck in the wires of the play pens and then injured so make sure its small spacing if you use one (some even get injured on the all wire kennels too if they really like to explore).