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    MercedesAshley    September 26, 2009   Canada

    We are very much missing our family pet's &  now decided to start our search in finding a puppy of our own. At frist I thought I wanted a Toy Black Poodle but as I was searching I found cute Black Morkies (Maltese & Yorkie Mix) I got really suspicious with some of the breaders I was contacting. Sounded to much like puppy mills. When they tell you that they don't have the parents of the puppy that they are happy up at a family farm & can't send you pictures of them either. It's to risky to think I could be supporting a puppy mill. then I fell in love with a little female Yorkie Poo (Yorkie & Poodle Mix) She is the Cutest!! Looks like a little bear. But the Guy is giveing me the same story. I got so frustrated that I sent him a very stern email. I am still waiting for a reply & so sick of people doing this. I know it's not everyone I know there is probably some dog's who are up at a farm somewhere happy but not all of them are. It is so sad & I just wanted to know if anyone else is or had this problem searching for the next member of there family.

     
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    Look on petfinder.com!! I found my black mini poodle on there and he's the sweetest guy ever!

     
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    OttawaBride2011    May 21, 2011   Ottawa, Ontario

    Depending on where you are in Canada I can recommend a good breeder! We got very lucky with our welsh terrier.

     
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    missjyc    September 18, 2010   macomb, michigan

    i agree with BOSTONBEE! use PETFINDER!!!!

     
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    JoesWifey    May 24, 2009   NYC/Wedding in Indiana

    You will not find a reputable breeder for any of these hybrid "breeds." At best, they are hobby breeders who just love their dogs and think it's a quick way to make some money, and at worse, as you have found, are the puppy mills. Check on craigslist for people giving away dogs they cannot keep, check petfinder.com, and never ever buy a dog and have it shipped on a plane. If it's too far for you to go check out where they are being raised and the parents of the dogs, it's just not a good idea. I'm glad you are avoiding the puppy mills though even though these puppies steal your heart! It's definitely better in the long run for you. Also, just check out your local animal shelters and rescue organizations! You never know what you may find.

     
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    elliej    November 7, 2010   Charleston, SC

    Please rescue!!  Petfinder is a fantastic place to find all sorts of breeds/mixes/mutts.  I've not personally come across anyone selling Hybrids, also known as MUTTS (and I love mutts, I have one!), that was not a backyard breeder/puppymill.  Those people breed to make money, end of story.  Breeding is done to better the breed as a whole, not make money.  If you have your heart set on a purebred, there a thousands of breed-specific rescues all over the U.S. and Canada (you can check with the breed club-google them!-for reputable rescues).  Please look there first before going anywhere else.  You can save a life!

     
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    rachel_leigh    May 15, 2010  

    Go for a mutt!  They will have fewer genetic health problems and you will have a dog that looks like nobody else's!

     
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    hotchildinthecity    June 12, 2010   New York, NY

    Agree with above posters.  There are no "reputable breeders" for these "designer dogs."  Please consider adopting a dog, even if it isn't one of the more popular breeds.

    I echo the suggestion of petfinder.com

     

     
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    TobeMrsG    August 15, 2010   New York

    I agree with everyone who says to adopt-After adopting my first one in college I vowed to never buy a dog again. Designer breeds can have a lot of health issues because of their limited gene pools and there are so many wonderful puppies and young dogs that are up for adoption. Petfinder, local shelters, and even Petsmarts run adoption days. Good luck finding your puppy.

     
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    ribbons    June 12, 2010  

    If you have your heart set on a poodle, check out the local poodle club or rescue. The club will have links to reputable breeders. The rescue will obviously have rescued dogs :) Petfinder is also a really great tool.

     
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    Miss Apricot    May 30, 2009   Minnesota

    I second (or would that be fifth?  seventh?  hehe) checkinging Petfinder.com if you have your heart set on a mixed breed.  Typing "Morkie" won't get you very far, however, since these aren't actual breed.  If you want a yorkie mix for example, then search for yorkshire terrier. It will bring up both purebreds and mixes of that breed.  You can further narrow your results by age, gender, etc.

    If you're looking for a purebred, petfinder.com is still a wonderful option.  Or, you can look for reputable breeders.  If you need more information on how to finder a responsible breeder, just ask I'm sure you'll get all kinds of info!

    Good luck with your puppy search!

     
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    Neato anedo    August 2011  

    Just as a heads up, you will not find a reputable breeder who has any of these "designer breeds" for sale. There are no standards for these animals because they are not real breeds -- there are no standardized outcomes as far as character or physical traits, and as a result there is no testing done to make sure you are getting a healthy, balanced, wellbred dog from healthy, balanced, well bred parents. The people breeding these dogs are often not much better than "puppy mills" -- they certainly do not have the wellbeing of the animals they are producing or the families that are buying them in mind. It is all about the bottom line.

    If you really want a designer breed, check Petfinder out, as others have mentioned. Adoption is the only responsible way to go about getting a designer breed, IMO.

    If you want to go to a breeder, settle on a purebred, and find someone who does genetic testing, has health guarantees, and who only breeds titled animals. A good "red flag" that suggests the breeder is unethical, is if they are pumping out multiple litters a year.

    Just make sure you do your homework, and you will find a good match :)

     
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    Cricket1524    September 4, 2010   Burbank, CA

    Here's the thing that I don't understand, I know that puppy mills are terrible because of health issues but these animals are born, don't they deserve a good home too? Is it because the money is going to further these people in doing what they're doing when they shouldn't be doing it? That makes sense I guess? I just feel bad for the dogs, it's kind of like just because you were born you're not worthy. Mind you I'm the same girl who literally saved her pup from being put down at the pound so I'm a big believer in pound puppies especially older ones. Mine was 1 and no one wanted her because she wasn't a puppy and she was literally a day away from being put down, it's shocking because she's the BEST dog ever, so good and great with kids. She's just a little on the large size (about 80lbs).

    I personally think there are some shady adoption agencies out there too. My mom and brother wanted a dog from the pound and when it was available there was an adoption agency there at the same time, rather than backing out seeing that the dog had someone who wanted it to have a home they out bid her then told her she could pay $400 for it via the agency. REALLY? How is that helpful? You're going to take on an animal that needs to be fed and try and find it a home when someone wanted it? That's wrong too.

     
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    Neato anedo    August 2011  

    @ Cricket... Your thought process is correct. As someone who works in animal rescue, I know that with the way animals are treated (as being completely disposable pieces of property), it is inevitable that tons of wonderful and deserving animals are going to die every year. Do I feel bad for puppy mill dogs? Yes, of course I do. But I also know that no matter what you do, dogs and cats are still going to die needlessly.

    The difference? When you adopt, you give money to an institution that is making an effort to find a SOLUTION to pet overpopulation. When you "rescue" a puppy mill dog, you are not only sentencing pound puppies to death, but you are also funding the creation of more puppies, and consequently extending the terrible cycle of pet disposal as opposed to helping stifle it.

    It is a sad and bitter reality to swallow, but until we as a country can shift the paradigm on how we treat animals, it unfortunately will always be there :(

     
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    Neato anedo    August 2011  

    And if there was really an "outbidding" going on -- which there shouldn't have been, because shelters and rescues partner, they don't "sell" animals -- you should report it to your Health Department. Was this shelter city funded?

     
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    MercedesAshley    September 26, 2009   Canada

    Thank You everyone!!

    You are all making me more knowledgeable in my puppy search.

    I greatly appreciate all your comments.

     
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    menobride    June 5, 2011   NH

    I found the love of my life on petfinder.com

    Sorry, future hubby! :)

     

     
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    Future Mrs. Martin    August 21, 2010   London Ontario Canada

    Be careful of Yorkie mixes!

    Yorkshire terriors, can have bad tempers naturally. They tend to want ONE owner only and are quite protective of that owner. They also don't naturally like children! All of these traits can be trained out but I don't recommend a Yorkie as a first time owner's dog. More info on their temperament here.

    Often mixes can prevent you from getting the Yorkie traits; however, that is not always the case!

    I have a 14 yo yorkie. I got him when I was 13 and obviously wasn't a veteran dog trainer. We let him get away with things that a big dog COULD NEVER get away with because he was small. And now that he is a grumpy old man these traits are even worse. Don't get me wrong I LOVE HIM LIKE CRAZY. But with our next dogs I will do A LOT of research on natural temperaments and will do a lot more training!

    Good Luck finding a new family member.

     
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    MrsJellybean227    January 1, 2011   TN

    Well Georgia was Christmas present from my fiance and is actually a pure bred lab, but was sorta of an "oops". Daisy however was a rescue dog. My cat had died at the vet March 17th 2009. When a pet dies there they cast a paw print in clay, so I went in in April to get the paw print when one of the ladies mentioned something about "Frosty". I said "That's a cute name" and she said we're actually looking for a home for her, she was released over to them. I met her and loved her instantly. A few days later I talked my fiance into coming and meeting her. She was extremely shy around him and uncomfortable because as it turned out she had been abused by a man. JB agreed to bring her home on a trial period to make sure she got along with the cats at my house. she did- and JB got her to warm up to him shortly. So that is how we got Daisy (we renamed her). Our criteria was a rescue dog. We really wanted someone who needed us as much as we wanted them and it breaks my heart to think of all the dogs and pups in the shelters that are killed becasue they can't find a home. I think I should mention that Daisy was released to my vet by the "no kill" shelter in my area after they couldn't find her a foster family becasue she was pretty much grown. Even though there is less then a year between their adoptive b-days we knew we wanted two dogs, though we didn't think the opprotunities would present themselves so soon. I think with us it wasn't our choosing it was sorta like the cards/God/Destiny/Fate just chose us for them.

     
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    twalila    May 2010   Ohio

    @Mrs Martin - I have 2 yorkie/yorkie mixes both from rescues (YAY PETFINDER!!) and have had none of the problems you mention.  My dogs both adore kids (they're stars of our local dog run), are equally affectionate towards me & my fiance (and any stranger that happens by) and have been generally easy to train with housebreaking and basic commands.  While I agree one should do extensive research and consider breed standard temperments, I definitely do NOT agree with your overwhelmingly negative review of both yorkies and yorkie mixes.  If you're admitting you didn't do your part to train your dog, well - then the problem is right there, regardless the breed.

     
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    toothfairyb    September 4, 2010   Vancouver, BC

    I recommend petfinder.com as well. Please, please rescue! There are so many dogs that need love!

     
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    KLP2010    October 30, 2010  

    I have a Standard Poodle, so knowing the breed characteristics and what's being done with designer dogs, I'm VERY against "poodle" mixes.  For one, the reason they came about was to get all the amazing qualities of the poodle in other breeds. Um, just get a poodle if that's the characteristics you want! The process of "developing" these mixes and perfecting them has resulted in a lot of dogs in a bad and sometimes painful situation. Not to mention there's no guarantee of what percentage you'll get of the poodle.

    My poodle is a rescue from mill breeding.  He was bred poorly and at 8 months was diagnosed with Severe Hip Dysplasia. He had never had his ears plucked at 6 months when we got him and as a result he's battled... and will battle, painful ear infections the rest of his life.  A simple genetic test, which worthy breeders do, would have shown that the breeding shouldn't have occurred and could result in the hip dysplasia. Don't get me wrong, my dog is the light of my life (with the fI), however, his life will be one of chronic pain and an early death. One which I MYSELF will have to decide the timing on, and then I will go through the pain of loosing him. While animals in "bad" conditions need worthy homes, by supporting them and paying them, you finance their operation to continue. If a rescue / animal control get's involved, these people suffer the legal consequences they deserve and then you can adopt them for much cheaper :-)

    So, my vote is for a mini poodle. And a rescue. And not all rescues are from mill breeding! You can find puppies in rescues, but don't give up the idea of a teenage one either! Lots of poodles need homes! 

     

     
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    Cricket1524    September 4, 2010   Burbank, CA

    @Neato anedo yes there REALLY was outbidding going on that's how EVERY Animal Shelter in Los Angeles works. LA Animal Shelters are on a first come first served basis but if when the shelter opens the day an animal is available and if more than one person shows up that wants the animal (regular person or animal adoption agency - they don't care) a bid war starts. Burbank is not part of Los Angeles and they actually do it via lottery (I think Pasadena does this as well). So when my mom and brother went the adoption agency was there also and they outbid my mom. Personally I think this defeats the purpose of what a non-profit "rescue" should be doing. If there's a family out there who went to the shelter to rescue an animal they should do the ethical thing and step aside, they're only fighting knowing full well they can make a profit off of it and it seems in direct contradiction to the point of having a non-profit rescue. I know it's been a bit of an issue here in LA to start your own non-profit animal rescue and it's become a bit overpopulated with them and that might be part of the issue.

     
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    @cricket: While I absolutely do not agree with rescues going into shelters to get the most adoptable dogs before anyone else, there is reason to their maddness. You are right, these highly adoptable dogs turn a quick profit for them because they will be adopted right back out, with minimal expense. Rescues use these dogs in order to cover the expenses of the dogs that are not highly adoptable (read: lots of foster time, lots of food bills), need a lot of care, need a very expensive surgery, etc.

     
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    Cricket1524    September 4, 2010   Burbank, CA

    I understand that but when there's a family that wants the dog I still feel that ethically it's wrong and it's in complete contradiction to what they're supposed to be about.

     
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    designish    08/14/09   Seattle, WA

    @Cricket: I think it's more about supply and demand. The more people that purchase puppies from puppy mills, the more money they'll make, the more puppy mills there will ultimately be. So yes, while those puppies do need a home (and chances are they will get one because they're highly desired breeds, even if it is by way of a shelter). You can still get the puppy you want from petfinder.com or breed rescues because these organizations frequently are part of the teams the break puppy mills down and home the dogs they find WHILE not financially supporting the puppy mill phenomenon.

     

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