Post # 1
Let me start by saying that I am NOT diamond savvy… barely know the basics, but I know enough to make me wonder about my stone. My mother helped Fiance pick my ring via a family friend. We got a great deal SUPPOSEDLY, but now that I’m inspecting the stone and asking questions I’m wondering if we made a mistake.
At first glance I didnt notice a thing in my ring, thought it was completely eye clean… but since I couldnt stop staring, I later noticed a line near the table, just slightly off the angle of the cuts of the stone. Since I found it, I CANNOT unfind it. It’s glaringly obvious to me. Not a big deal except that the stone is graded at VS2. Arent they supposed to be eye clean? Or at least shouldnt have a sizable inclusion at the very center and surface of the stone?
The weird part is that depending on where the light comes from, sometimes it is stark white… I know im not mistaking it for a facet bc it moves over the cuts when I tilt the diamond… but I dont understand how it can go from black to white! To make matters worse, unless someone isnt understanding my question, there doesnt seem to be a grading report. There’s an appraisal that lists the various qualities of the diamond and its value, but nothing from GIA or AGS or any other diamond grading lab.
My fear is that this distant family friend (FIL of child I grew up with) may have unintentionally misrepresented what we were getting so we paid more than we should have. Not sure what to do because my mother swears the man wouldnt do that to her, but I just dont know. We have a tight budget and while I looove my ring, I wouldnt want to have paid more than we had to.
Unfortunately I only have my cell, so I cant get ppictures of what I’m describing…I will try after work. Specs as I am aware: .6 ct center stone f-h color vs2 clarity. 26 1pt side stones f-h color vs1 clarity. 14k wg.
Post # 3
I would send the stone in to GIA and get it graded. It sounds like a feather which seems unlikely at a VS2 clarity (although it is possible.) Either way, having the cert will give you a better idea of value and if you overpaid you can go back to the original seller armed with information to exchange or get a refund
Post # 4
Without a Gia cert it could be anything. And you said ithe color is graded an f-h that kind of worries me bc labs that grade a little off grade between colors which you shouldn’t. It should either be a f, g, or h. I would say you probably have an si1 or 2 stone with a lower color which is fine as long as your ok with it and you didn’t over pay for what you thought was something else. Also do you know what kind of cut it has? That is the most important thing.
Also my center stone is Gia graded vs2 and it has a feather, but it is not visible to the naked eye.
Post # 5
I think it sounds like you got a “clarity enhanced” diamond – where they try to correct inclusions and other flaws. I do not usually recommend getting “enhanced” diamonds because it greatly effects value – but they are considerably cheaper. When ever I see akiller deal on a good sizeddiamond with good specs – it almost always ends up to be an “enhanced” stone
If the enhancementrepairs aren’t noticble then great – but it sounds like they are in your case (& many others I’ve read about).
ETA: if there is no grading report available how in the world can they tell you it’s VS2, F color, etc..???. Never take someone’s word on that, get a lab report.
Post # 6
@MirnaMinkoff: Agree on the clarity enhancement. It sounds like a laser drill track.
OP, I would send the stone to get graded by a reputable lab- GIA (preferably) or AGS. If the stone is clarity enhanced and they did not disclose that to you, then they should take it back and you should look elsewhere.
Post # 7
It is hard to say without a report, but you could have a laser tunnel, a feather, a needle, or a twining wisp. Clarity grades reflect the relative level of inclusions in a stone but do not guarantee that they are “eye clean” unless they are graded flawless. This is why it is important to have a certificate and inspect the diamond under magnification so you can decide if the type and location of any inclusions is acceptable to you. Often, when a price is too good to be true, it is…too good to be true!
Post # 8
You definitely do not want a clarity enhanced stone. Def get it checked out op!
Post # 9
All of it sounded so fishy to me as soon as she described the situation… I have never heard of the appraisal company before or how they decided what my stones specs are. Upon closer inspection I can see another inclusion thats obviously your standard tiny black fleck… but the line just makes me so nervous that it could be a feather or something that will compromise the integrity of the stone. Idont understand why my mother was so foxused on goingbto this particular jeweler, why she has such blind trust in him, or why it is deemed offensive that I want to get it GIA certified. It just frustrates me that she doesnt think to protect such an investment properly. I was hesitant to go this route for this exact reason, but it’s certainly too late now. I just hope that if the GIA report comes back problematic ythat the jeweler will fix the problem. Thank you everyone for all your help!
Post # 10
@marhealy: plz keep us posted.An experienced jeweler could tell if its clarity enhanced n give u a ballpark appraisal. Gia is best but they willwant the diamond only (will have to be removed from setting).
Personally, I would probably just get a certified gia gemologist locally to appraise the ring .
Post # 12
From my understanding, you should not be able to pick up something like that in a VS2, not even a SI2, for that matter! My diamoind is SI1 and totally eye clean. I would do a littler internet research and then confront the jeweler.
Post # 14
A reputable certification will not give a range on colour. The stone either is or is not an F or a G or an H. It cannot be all at the same time. The only reason to give a range on colour would be for an heirloom stone that the owner does not want removed from the setting, and all estimates on colour or clarity are best guesses when the stone is set.
So your stone does not have a reputable certification. Many jewelry stores carry this type of stone, with a small card declaring the colour and clarity. Those “certifications” or grades aren’t worth the paper they are printed on and are often significantly off. AGS and GIA are the most reputable labs, and they will provide a certification with an inclusion plot, stone angles, etc.
It isn’t worth unsetting the stone you have to pay to send it to GIA. If it were a great stone, it likely would already have a GIA certification and a buyer would have paid a premium for that. Jewelers generally know when they can get good grading from GIA, and they will sell those stones with the GIA cert so they can charge more. Lesser quality stones are often sent to other labs, which will typically grade more leniently. Then the jeweler can sell the diamond as a higher colour or clarity (this is not always the case, of course, but it often happens).
Is there any way you can go to the store to see the inventory available? If a person is going to buy a stone that is not AGS or GIA certified, they should at least see it in person before buying (and while your Mother-In-Law may have, you did not). VS2 can occasionally have inclusions visible to the naked eye, but they should not be as obvous as you describe.
Post # 15
We have a rule over on Pricescope… never buy from a family member or a friend. More times than not, they will screw you over.
I’m so sorry.
Is there any way you can return the whole ring still? Or even just the diamond? Start from scratch?
Post # 16
You will have to have the stone unset and you will have to pay to have it GIA certified. Just FYI. A reputable jeweler ought to work with you if you are dissatisfied without you getting the stone GIA appraised. Regardless, the jeweler can easily claim that the stone meets the requirements for whatever its certification is, and that if it had been a GIA stone you would have paid more anyway. Other labs do not claim to grade the same as GIA, so the stone was not misrepresented if it doesn’t meet GIA standards.