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if you already paid the tip, i wouldn't put out jars. People will feel obligated if they are there.
I don't think that's out of line at all, and I will not allow tip jars to be seen at my wedding either. The bartenders can keep a jar behind the bar to put tips in if people choose to leave them, but I don't want it to look like people are obligated to tip in any way.
I guess my question is... did they put at tip jar to get tips or were they getting tips so they need a tip jar? Our friends and family will likely tip no matter what. I agree with HL that they can keeep a jar behind the bar but they must not look like they are seeking tips.
I agree with HL. As long as it's not where the guests feel obligated to tip, it's fine.
I agree with HL. As long as it's not where the guests feel obligated to tip, it's fine.
She told me that they put out a tip jar like they were seeking tips. And then she felt like she would be a b*tch or out of line asking them to take it away, so it sat out all night collecting money.
Would it be tacky to mention on our website that they a gratuity has been included, please do not feel obligated to tip the barstaff.
I would ask the person you contact about the facility to talk to the bartenders about not putting out jars. I also think it is pretty rude of them if a 20% tip is already included!
Ask the venue WHO the 20% tip goes to. Be sure that it does, indeed, go to the bartenders. If it does, insist it not be put out. If it doesn't, I say leave it out.
I wouldn't mention on your website that the staff has already been tipped, but spread it by word of mouth.
We paid our bartenders $100 each and let them leave a tip jar out. It wasn't done distastefully, but sat on the corner of the table. Not RIGHT in front of the guest receiving the drink. If people want to give them a buck or two, no big deal, they will do it anyways. They were already making the $100 each for like, 3 hours of pouring beer and wine and stuff, but most people tip, regardless. I still tend to tip if there is no jar out, too. It usually gets me better drinks and/or a stiffer one =]
I also did not want my guests paying anything, but unfortunately this happened to me and it caused a stir at first, but it was fine. In my opinion, we were expected to tip the waiters, etc., so why should the bartenders get an extra tip from our guests? Our bartenders put out a tip jar and guests started putting money in. When we finally arrived at the cocktail hour and saw it, we asked for them to put it away. We had meant to include a sign at the bar that said "no tips please" and should have instructed the bartenders to politely decline any tips with a simple, "thank you but the bride and groom are taking care of the gratuity." My advice is to ask if they get the tip as the PP suggested, and instruct your waitstaff of the decision.
don't put something on your website. if people want to tip than they should have that option. I have friends who - regardless if its unclear if the staff has been tipped - always put down a $10 or $20 bill. They do so because they know that being a bartender is not a fun job and it usually promotes better service. Keep in mind that many bartenders and cater workers rely on their tips as their income. I think it would be unnecessary to say "don't tip". 20% gratuity is fine but it also split up between all the bartenders and servers. if you have 10 staff members then that means they get 2% each.
Simply letting the banquet manager know that a tip jar should not be visible on the bar should be sufficient.
You really need to ask your venue. Our open bars come with our venue/caterer and we asked specifically about the bartenders getting tips. We also did NOT want any tip jars put out because we feel it's high inappropriate & had it put into our contract. If a guest chooses to give a tip to the bartender, we have no problem with them taking it but we do not want them asking for additional fees.
You need to ask your venue manager if the bartenders' gratutiy is included in the contract. Tip jars at a wedding are tacky...it's a hosted reception, not a bar. It is also appropriate to speak with the venue manager about putting up a small "please, no tipping" sign. If they provide good service and a lot of your guests go the mixed drink route vs. jut wine or beer, it's also common for the host to tip an additional amount at the end of the evening.
I don't think you should mention it on your website, but perhaps a small sign next to the drink menu, or on the drink menu.
"Keep your pretty pennies. your tip, drinks, and livelyhood (spelling?) are on us tonight."
Also, ask the venue manager that tip jars not be put out, but if guests still insist on tipping, then by all means. Also, be sure that the bartenders are included in that 20% auto grat., if not, then I think they deserve to put out a tip jar, just not blatantly.
It doesn't seem right to have tip jars out if tip has already been paid. Good catch!
Thanks everyone for the great advice!! I will definitely talk to the country club and see who all gets the tip/how many people it is split up between. And I'm sure knowing my dad they will get an additional tip on top of what is written into the contract.
And by all means if someone feels inclined to tip that's fine, but I know when I go to weddings with a jar I feel like I have to.
It's fine not to have the jars out if 20% is already included. If you want further clarification, you could ask exactly what the bartender will make ( so that you feel it's fair ). For all you know .... the caterer could just keep the 20% and pay everyone $9 an hour ( which wouldn't be fair .... weddings are hard work ).
Amanda
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My boss told me that for her daughter's wedding the tip for the alcohol and staff was included in the price of the reception. So the staff was receiving a 20% tip based on all the food and alcohol. They had an open bar because they didn't want the guests paying for anything. But the bartenders put out a tip jar and most people felt obligated to put money in it. She was mad because the tip was already paid, and yet they were getting money from the guests too.
Now for my wedding, the 20% tip is included as well. We're also having an open bar. Would it be inappropriate for me to say absolutely NO tip jars should be put out?? For me it's just the principle of it, and I don't want my guests to feel obligated to tip.
What do you guys think??