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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    I'm a wedding/engagement photographer part time (I take a few clients here and there). I am honest with my couples in that I am not a full time "professional" and all my couples have been happy with the coverage they have recieved and I am proud of the finished product.

      I'm in a unique situation where I'm not located near my home for six weeks so I began offering discounted coverage in the area I am staying. I let one my brides get away with scheduling e-pics without a contract or deposit. It was understood she would pay in full before the shoot. Now she is asking if she can make 50 percent depsoit and pay the rest when the finished product is presented.

      I know some photographers practice this, however, I am under the impression it is rare. When I had my own wedding/engagement photos taken I had to pay a 50 percent deposit just to book and the rest of the payment the week prior to the wedding.

      How were your contracts structured? I want to know I'm not totally off base here- I was going to contact other photographers but we were supposed to shoot Monday and she just sent an email requesting this so I'm out of time.

      Thanks ladies.

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    I had to pay my contract in full before the wedding.  I think that it doesn't really matter either way as long as you have a written contract describing the terms of the contract so you have basis for taking them to court for non payment.

     
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    zippylef    October 30, 2010   Norfolk, UK

    My balance is due 2 weeks before my wedding.

     
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    Future Mrs. Martin    August 21, 2010   London Ontario Canada

    I pay 40% deposit, 40% a week before the wedding and 20% at pick-up of the disc!

    I actually really like this set-up - I think it benefits both me and the photographer!

    Do you think she would go for this kind of structure? 

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    Thanks ladies- and for clarification this is for engagement photos.

    @MissAB- even with a contract it matters. If the bride doesn't pay I have to hire an attorney/take her to small claims court. Usually this wouldn't be an issue- however, I am not in my home state. Travel and expenses would make it a hassle.

     

     

     

     
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    jackie-o    October 31, 2010   Seattle, WA

    We had to pay 50% when we signed the contract and then the remainder is due 1 week before the wedding. 

    Like @MissAsB: said I would create a written contract for the balance that your client is requesting to pay, since its after her wedding and/or event date.  Have you been communicating via email?  I would def. keep all of the written correspondences.

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    But I was saying that with the other way around, the bride would be the one who has to hire the lawyer if her photographer doesn't give her the pictures in the end.  So it has the potential to hurt either of them.

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    @jackie-O All my brides sign contracts stating the amount paid, due, relevant information etc. The contract protects me in the event something out of my control goes wrong and lays everything on the table (A lawyer drafted my contract).

    @Miss AB- the contract the bride has yet to sign states if I do not give her a finished product  I will return her full payment. I have references (in her area) for the bride to check and recent work posted on my website.

       I don't have that same luxury- all I know is when she contacted me last week I explained how my process worked and she wants to change it two days before the shoot.

      Again, the issue is I'm only in the state for three weeks before moving back home. I'm hesitant about allowing this since it's not like I can drive down to the local court house and file.

     

     

     
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    jackie-o    October 31, 2010   Seattle, WA

    @maureen9004: got it, I didn't comprehend that you were in a completely different state Undecided  And what about the option that @Future Mrs. Martin: mentions!?!?!?

     
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    missfireslayer    September 24, 2010   Northern Colorado

    I think you should just tell her to man up and stick with your orignal terms. Something probably could have been worked out if she asked a little earlier. She should have to pay the full amount like agreed upon and sign the contract (the one where if you don't give her the pictures she is reimbursed) and that's that.

     

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    @jackie-o: Future Ms. Martin had a great idea, but my policies were outlined in the contract/first email.

    @jmissfirelayers: lol.. think I need to man up and tell her no :) I'm such a push over. I'm so afraid to make a client mad- I don't take very many so when I do I want to make sure they're happy.

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    Yeah, I don't really like that she changed the terms on you so soon.  Has she not paid you anything at all yet?

    PS - Didn't mean to offend with the other comments, I'm in a mood lately.

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    @MissAsB: I wasn't offended, I am in serious mode :)  That and I just got screwed over on a real estate deal so contracts are a touchy subject for me. Our contract stated the seller's were to reimburse us for  lost fees after we were released from the sale (they couldn't close- they were not paying their mortgage and never disclosed this information to us. We drove across the country with three cats)- they didn't pay so we took them to court. They are probably never going to  reimburse us because they are broke. It was a reality check contracts don't mean very much and life isn't fair<-- that's probably why I'm making this into such a big issue.

     
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    hilsy85    September 2010  

    Like pps, I had to pay 50% when I signed the contract, and I owe the remainder 2 weeks before.

     
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    LoriLori    July 24, 2010   Long Beach Island, NJ

    Maybe she's afraid for the same reason you are.  If she gives you all the money and doesn't get her pictures she'd have to sue you to get it back. 

    I did a "engament like"portrait session and paid upfront.  for our wedding it's a 1/3 at booking, 1/3 on the day of, 1/3 when we get the pics.  I personally feel nervous paying everything upfront.  A contact isn't much comfort if somebody doesn't show, especially when you're talking about a wedding! 

    Not that I think you would screw w/ anyone, just another point of view.  :-)

     
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    crayfish    September 11, 2010   Berkeley, CA

    If she originally agreed to payment in full, she shouls honor that. My wedding photography was 3 installments, but the final payment was due 2 weeks before the wedding. That really is the norm! Perhaps she would be open to installments that were due in full before the shoot?

     
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    greenleafmountain    7.31.2010  

    I had to pay a deposit (about 10%), then I had to pay half the remaining balance a month before the wedding, and the last bit on the day of the wedding.

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    @maureen9004: Wow that sucks!  I would be frustrated with contracts after that too!

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    Thanks, ladies. We worked it out. I was afraid because I hate telling people no (first born people pleasing tendency). We talked and she was super understanding- I don't know why I'm such a freak sometimes :)

     
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    MrsH1010       Chicago, IL

    when we booked our photographer about 9 mons out, we signed a contract and paid a $200 deposit, then we paid a percentage spread out over four pay dates, the last one is a month before the wedding.

     

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