Post # 1
There is a back and forth going on on my Facebook wall right now about a dog with an ear infection and the owner not having enough money to get treatment. There are a slew of replies suggesting giving the dog people medicine and home remedies that frankly are dangerous if you dont know what you’re doing. I am blown away.
I get that sometimes times get hard, but how freaking difficult is it to just call around and find a vet who will work with you?? I mean, if YOU had an ear infection, you’d want treatment…you wouldnt waste your time dripping garlic oil in your ear and taking medication that was prescribed to someone else. Why would you make your dog suffer and potentially harm them further because of your money situation?? Come on!!
Post # 2
the other day my friend and her 19 year old nanny (whom i want her to replace) came over (we are nieghbors). She left and the nanny stayed… i was like okayyyy. i just got a little kitten and she started telling me this story about how… when she was younger they couldnt afford to fix their brother and sister cat. and they bred… the kittens turned out messed up… she described it to me… f*** up!! !!!!!!!! then proceded to tell me about how her dad couldnt afford to put them to sleep so he had to smother them….. she was 7.
……………….i mean im still f***ing tramatized over this girls story!! wtf! why did you guys even have cats and you have got to be messed up in the head from all that. i mean i feel messed up in the head just hearing that stupid story.
i know a vet that does stuff like this for free. people just dont even give a crap and its sad.
Post # 3
Ehh, if I had an ear infection, I would totally try natural home remedies first before undertaking the inconvenience and expense of a trip to the doctors office. Especially if I couldn’t afford it. But, I don’t have a dog, so it’s hard to say if I’d treat a dog differently than I treat myself. Sometimes a natural remedy can be pretty darn effective though!
Post # 4
souza_2005: What crazy person tells that story to someone they just met?!?! OMG!
Post # 5
souza_2005: A friend of mine has a similar story about baby bunnies, except it involves them being frozen to death because that was apparently “more humane”
I recommended a vet I use because they do the same as the vet you’re talking about. They are low cost and accept payments…they really care about animals. Yet my comment is getting buried under the dozens of “Dont waste your money! You can just light his ear on fire and burn the infection away” (not a real comment I’m just exaggerating)
Post # 6
On myself, I normally do try natural remedies first. I don’t like to take antibiotics and things [I’ve only taken them twice in my life]. I wouldn’t take them if I didn’t NEED them. But, I also don’t take painkillers or anything unless the pain is so bad I’m in tears.
Whenever my dog gets sick, though – I take him in. Animals can’t tell you the amount of pain they are experiancing, nor am I a vet and know what to do when something happens to him.
Post # 7
iarebridezilla: The difference is that dogs bodies are different than a humans, obviously. What is a great natural remedy for a human might be toxic for a dog, or cause further damage to their very sensitive ears. Its just irresponsible to try home remedies on your pet when you have no idea what you’re doing, basically.
Theres a reason it takes longer to become a vet than a human doctor.
Post # 8
a_day_at_the_fair: exactly. what works for humans doesnt work for dogs.
Post # 9
On myself, I would usually diagnose. If I was fairly certain about the diagnosis, I would then treat using my stash of prescription and non-prescription drugs. I would only see a doctor if I needed a second opinion or treatment wasn’t working.
Until recently, I used to always take my animals to the vet. Then I had a very traumatic (read: horrific) recent experience which taught me two things:
– Animal medication is exactly the same as human medication in 95% of cases… you just give a different dose.
– Knowledge of biology and pathology is also usually transferable between species. For anything else, there’s Google. If you know the basics, you can pick it up quite fast.
I’m sorry to say that I doubt I will be trusting the vet from now on. I suspect I will end up doing most of my diagnostics either in house or by using private labs, and treating using my stash, measured and dosed using a medical scale accurate to within 1/100 of a gram.
As it happens I am currently dosing one of my cats using an off-license treatment after a vet misdiagnosed him, I obtained the correct diagnosis using a private lab, and the vet refused to treat the cat as the only available treatments were off-license. But that is another story (NOT the traumatic one). Suffice to say that I now trust vets as much as I trust doctors… ie not much, but good for a second opinion/ confirmation of the diagnosis.
Post # 10
My dogs got a sore on his paw at the moment. I can’t afford to take him to the vets, they cost $100’s of dollars here for even the most simplest things and none of them around here take payment plans or discounts or anything. I feel horrible and guilty, but we just don’t have the cash! So we’ve tried a poultice and wrapped it and are hoping for the best. We once forked out $3000 on a public holiday because we thought he was bitten by a snake… turned out it was gastro. And no, we didn’t get any cash back. Vet’s here are grossly expensive and sometimes we can’t help having to wait until we’ve saved up the money. We did have pet insurance for a while, but had to cancel it because even that was grossly expensive.
My point is, I agree people shouldn’t be suggesting giving people medicine and that’s stupid, but some natural remedies do actually work and sometimes it’s just not possible to go to the vet.
Post # 11
The whole “call around until you find a vet that will work with you”…is really nice in theory, but they don’t seem to exist in my area.
I’ve been royally screwed by vets too, so I am even more wary. I have found a good vet since thankfully, but honestly – most ear infections are easily cured at home for both dogs and humans.
I’d be with you if the animal were vomiting endlessly, or just something way beyond the realm of ear infections and were a serious medical emergency…but right now it is just an ear infection.
Also, most prescriptions from the vet are filled at your own pharmacy, because there is not a huge difference in the way we treat many ailments – especially basic ones like eye/ear infections.
When a vet stops charging $80 from the moment you go over the threshold of their front door, then takes a second to look at a rash, leaves, and has their tech do the rest of the work – one of those things being to charge you $50 for a tube of Canesten I might think it best to take your pet to the vet each and every time…but that wont be happening in my lifetime.
I’ve worked for vets long enough to know that they are first and foremost, business people. They are very smart to get into an industry that benefits from the attachment and duty that people feel towards their pets. Many (most?) take great advantage of this. I respect the amount of money, effort and sacrifice vets go through to become vets, however that doesn’t 1) entitle them to gouge, 2) make them free from fault or 3) make them any less money hungry. I have met a very small handful of veterinarians who truly do it for the sake of the love of animals.
Post # 12
um how about a guy I know posted on Facebook about what he should do to treat his infants possible eye infection. reasonable advise would be to see a doctor. Nope, about 30 stupid comments about using goats milk, offering leftover drugs, breast milk from someone in the family, etc. I can’t even believe 1) this guy thought facebook is an acceptable replacemnt for healthcare and 2) so many people thought it was acceptable to advise him to put random things IN HIS INFANT’S EYES! I just don’t understand.
Post # 13
Rachel631: I think there’s definitely something to be said for responsible pet parents to take it upon themselves to be educated and informed about the course of treatment being proposed by the vet.
If it’s one thing I’ve learnt, it’s that not all vets are created equal – just like GPs and human healthcare professionals. Daisy’s first vet (vets – all of them from the same practice) over-medicated her to the point where I thought we were going to lose her, and then couldn’t give a diagnosis other than stress, or otherwise a fatal disease. Not particularly helpful. The second vet I took her to said it was entirely possible all her symptoms were down to an initial reaction to vaccination, then side effects of the three types of antibiotics and other drugs they put her on. So for me, it’s about finding a vet that shares a similar philosophy and approach to my animal’s health that I do.
There’s nothing wrong with supplementing their diagnosis/treatment plan with personal research, and by all means seek a second or third opinion. Likewise with homeopathic/natural/OTC remedies, I always consult a vet just to make sure it’s not going to any harm to my pet.
With regard to whether I place the same standard of care to my pets as I do myself, I’d argue that it’s actually higher when it comes to my furbabies. Not just because I’m a crazy cat mum, but because – like babies – animals are unable to articulate how they’re feeling. Cats in particular are incredibly good at hiding pain, and by the time you notice a change in behaviour, it could be too late. With myself, I know how I’m feeling – what warrants an emergency response, and what is more a wait-and-see type situation. I don’t feel you can take that chance with a pet.
Post # 14
iarebridezilla: My vet actually gave us a natural recipe for a remedy for our dog’s ears, as he kept getting infections (yeast) as a pup.
There are some good natural remedies for things, so long as you know what the problem is to begin with, and that requires a vet to diagnose.
Post # 15
a_day_at_the_fair: Amen! I dont think you should have a pet if you arent going to/able to take care of it! If things were that bad that I couldnt take my dog to the vet because of money, I would let the cell phone go overdue and use the money to take him. I would never forgive myself if something happened to him because I didnt take him soon enough!
My sweetie (: