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    mudratdetector    September 4, 2011   Buffalo, NY

    We are both catholic but we chose to have a civil ceremony (I'm divorced, so its just easier). His grandfather is a minister (not catholic) and we asked him to do our ceremony since he's a seasoned professional. The ceremony is taking place in a cathedral-type wing of the main foyer of the country club. He knew this wasn't a mass, it wasn't in a church and it is a civil ceremony.

    Here's what grandpa sent us:

    Dearly Beloved, we are assembled here in the presence of God, to join Christopher and Katherine in Holy marriage; which is instituted of God, regulated by His commandments, blessed by our Lord Jesus Christ, and to be held in honor among all men and women. Let us therefore reverently remember that God has established and sanctified marriage for the welfare and happiness of humankind.

    Our Saviour has declared that a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave unto his wife. By His apostles, He has instructed those who enter into this relation to cherish a mutual esteem and love; to bear with each other's infirmities and weaknesses; to comfort each other in sickness, trouble, and sorrow; in honesty and industry to provide for each other, and for their household, in temporal things; to pray for and encourage each other in the things which pertain to God; and to live together as the heirs of the grace of life.

    Forasmuch as Katherine and Christopher have come forth to be made one in this holy estate, we now charge them to enter into this relationship with all openness and love and we further charge all those attendance and family and friends everywhere to remember this couple in prayerful support that they may be abundantly enriched with all grace in the strength of our loving Savior, Jesus Christ.

    Charge to the Couple: I charge you both, before the great God, the Searcher of all hearts, that you commit to each other in all honesty and Christian love so that your union will be blessed by our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Let us Pray Almighty and ever-blessed God, whose presence is the happiness of every condition and whose favor hallows every relation: we beseech Thee to be present and favorable unto these Thy servants, that they may be truly joined in the honorable estate of marriage, in the covenant of their God. As you have brought them together by your providence, sanctify them by your Spirit, giving them a new frame of heart fit for their new estate; and enrich them with all grace, whereby they may enjoy the comforts, undergo the cares, endure the trials, and perform the duties of life together as becometh Christians, under your heavenly guidance and protection; through our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

    Giving of the Bride: Father says “her mother and I do.”

    Christopher will you have Katherine to be your wife, and will you pledge your troth to her, in all love and honor; in all duty and service, in all faith and tenderness, to live with her, and cherish her, according to the ordinance of God, in the holy bond of marriage? Christopher will answer: I will.

    Katherine will you have Christopher to be your husband, and will you pledge your troth to him, in all love and honor; in all duty and service, in all faith and tenderness, to live with him, and cherish him, according to the ordinance of God, in the holy bond of marriage? Katherine will answer: I will.

    The Vows: I Christopher, take you, Katherine to be my wedded wife; And I do promise and covenant; Before God and these witnesses; To be your loving and faithful husband; In plenty and in want; In joy and in sorrow; In sickness and in health; As long as we both shall live.

    I Katherine, take you, Christopher to be my wedded husband; And I do promise and covenant; Before God and these witnesses; To be your loving and faithful wife; In plenty and in want; In joy and in sorrow; In sickness and in health; As long as we both shall live.

    Exchange of Rings – Christopher says: This ring I give you In token and pledge; Of our constant faith; And abiding love. In the name of the Father; And of the Son; And of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

    Katherine says: This ring I give you In token and pledge; Of our constant faith; And abiding love. In the name of thc Father; And of the Son; And of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

    SCRIPTURE READING – 1Cor.13 [1] If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. [2] And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. [3] If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. [4] Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; [5] it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; [6] it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. [7] Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. [8] Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. [9] For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; [10] but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away. [11] When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways. [12] For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood. [13] So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love. Let us pray. Most merciful and gracious God, of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named: Bestow upon these your servants the seal of your approval, and your Fatherly benediction; granting unto Christopher and Katherine grace to fulfill, with pure and steadfast affection, the vow and covenant between them made. Guide them together, we beseech You, in the way of righteousness and peace, that, loving and serving You, with ore heart and mind, all the days of their life, they may be abundantly enriched with the tokens of Your everlasting favor, in Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen

    All pray together: Our Father, who art in heaven; Hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will bc done; On earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts; As we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation; But deliver us from evil; For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

    Pronouncement: By the Authority committed unto me as a minister of the Church of Christ, I declare that Christopher and Katherine are now Husband and Wife, according to the ordinance of God: in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Blessing: Whom God hath joined together, let no man put asunder The Benediction And now may the Lord bless you, and keep you: the Lord make His face to shine upon you, and be gracious unto you: the Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace: both now and in the life everlasting. Amen.

     
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    MsBrooklynA       Midwest

    How many times can we mention the Holy Trinity in one ceremony? That is the feeling I get from that. He says God's name more times than your own.

     
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    EvaBostonTerrier    July 3, 2010  

    In my (limited) experience, most minister I know wouldn't feel comfortable leading a civil ceremony witout reference to their religion, because their religion is what defines them.  Are you looking for a completely civil ceremony without any reference or religion, or just a toned down version of what he wrote?  If it's the former, you may have a difficult time.  If it's the later, he may be willing to work with you more than if you want to avoid all religious references.

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    I had a civil ceremony and this would make me really uncomfortable. If you're both religious and  cool with it- I'd let him go wild. It's not really a civil ceremony though.

     
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    beatriz    August 2012  

    @mudratdetector: I believe it is beautiful and the traditional catholic marriage vows and rituals.   

    @MsBrooklynA:  No offense, but marriage is a sacred sacrament between three 

    Groom, Bride and God an in the Catholic demonition it is not rare to hear the Words GOd and holy trinity more often than the name of the party that is to be wed.  These are the words for the soon to be married couple 

     

    I love it...like in the movies and my novelas(soap operas) now we only need someone to impede the weddingLaughing

     
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    mudratdetector    September 4, 2011   Buffalo, NY

    to be honest, we don't *really* mind it. and i know our catholic parents wouldn't mind it. i'm more or less posing the question from the overall ceremony perspective...that guests will be saying the Our Father while sitting in a country club. I'm pretty sure everyone is expecting a civil ceremony based on our location.

     
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    MsBrooklynA       Midwest

    @beatriz: Well please refrain from pushing your beliefs upon me. I personally think my marriage is between me and my husband. This soon to be married couple said they would like a civil ceremony. Not a cathiolic mass. There is a difference.

     
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    2dBride    October 6, 2009   Washington, DC.

    It is actually fairly common to have a religious ceremony outside of a church.  While this is not normally permitted in a Catholic ceremony, it is allowed in most Protestant denominations.  And for Jews, an outdoor ceremony is actually quite traditional.  So if you are happy with the ceremony, but just concerned at the reaction of your guests to a religious ceremony in a country club, I don't think you need to worry.

     
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    Wonderstruck    September 18, 2011   Detroit, MI

    @beatriz: But obviously it's not a Catholic ceremony, so none of that matters at all.

     

     

    @mudratdetector: I do think I would find it odd as a guest to be going through prayers such as the Our Father in a non-church setting.

     

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