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Really bad waiting day yesterday, feeling ashamed..

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    We've all heard of "bridezillas", but is there such a thing as a "waiting-zilla"??  'Cause I think I might be turning into one, lol!

    So I had dinner with two of my girl friends last night whom I haven't seen in a couple of months.  They're both married, and one of them is about to have a baby, so obviously I'm the odd one out at this table (but then again, I'm pretty used to that at this point).  Dinner was a lot of fun, and I made it through most of the night without anyone asking me about the 'M' word or the 'E' word, but eventually it came. One of my friends asked, "So, are you and (SO) going to get married??" 

    My friends ask me stuff like this alot, more often than I like, but I guess their curiosity gets the best of them.  Afterall, they've been with me all along the way, they love my SO, and they remember how excited I was when SO and I shopped for engagements rings back in '09. I guess they are just as antsy and excited as I am for me to finally get that proposal. But as positive as I normally am about the situation, what came out of my mouth this particular night really shocked me. I told my friend that I really don't think we're going to get married, that we love each other and we live together and I guess that is just going to have to be good enough. It was really disheartening to hear myself say this, because it hurt to realize that I truly feel it is never going to happen, after trying to be so fair and patient with my SO for so long.

    I enjoyed the rest of my night with my friends, but when I arrived home I was extremely sad.  It was late so my SO had already gone to bed so there was no one to comfort me, just the apartment and the dog, and my stupid self-pity.

    I got out our little binder from the filing cabinet, the one from the jeweler that has all the ring info and pictures in it, as I often do when I need a little extra 'waiting' strength. I like to look at the photographs, and remember how much fun we had looking for the perfect ring, and all the sweet things he said to me when we finally found the right one. The dog and I spent a little while with the photos, admiring all the ring's beautiful little details, the knive-edge band, and the 'surprise' diamonds. Soooooo pretty.

    What I did next is why I'm a little ashamed.  Instead of putting it neatly back in the cabinet like I normally do, I shoved it into a trash bag and took it down to the dumpster.

    Innocent

    I realize it was probably a really stupid idea, but at the time the decision to not have that binder in the house anymore was extremely liberating..

     
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    Wannabee Mrs.G.    October 2012   Chicago

    @MisfitPrincess: I am so sorry you are feeling so defeated, but you should not feel ashamed at all!  It is really hard to feel like you are more invested in a relationship than the other person is, and I think that is how many of us waiting bees feel.  Two years after looking at rings together with no action is a long time, so you have every right to feel the way you do about it.  I probably would have been more dramatic and ripped all the pictures up and left them there for him to see. lol.  So by my standards, you did just fine.  I am glad that you feel liberated without the book in the house.  *HUGS*

    P.S.  I like your "waiting zilla" TV show idea.  I think it would be a hit!

     
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    jessiesbabe    February 18, 2013  

    Why have you shopped for rings, yet he hasn't proposed yet? (Sorry, I haven't gone through your posting history to figure it out). I would have done the exact same thing (regarding the book). Hugs.

     
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    @MisfitPrincess:  ***HUGS***

    Sounds like you HAVE been extremely patient, and I can't blame you for getting rid of that book!  Don't be ashamed.  You said yourself that it was liberating.  At least the dog was your only witness, so it's not like you made a huge scene in front of the neighbors or something!

    Have you talked to your SO about how this is really making you feel?  I'm not judging him, you, or your situation, but I would absolutely be hurt if we picked out a ring and years later, he still hadn't proposed.  You're a much more patient woman than I, that's for sure! 

     
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    MsMamaBear       Atlanta

    Don't be ashamed! I would have done the same thing. (I have.LOL) I hope y'all have a talk to see what's up.

     
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    aprose    May 19, 2013   oregon

    dont feel ashamed hun i think we have all done something like that when we were at our lowest point in waiting. i know i did something simmilar on the year mark after SO took me to the jewlery store to show my the ring he had picked out and the band he wanted for it and yada yada yada. its not a happy feeling to have your hopes raised like that only to have them deflated little by little as times goes on.

     
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    fjane    July 2012  

    I don't know the background of your relationship.  .... but maybe your other half would consider eloping? jsut the 2 of you go to city hall you where what you want book into a nice hotel and spoil yourselves for a day.

    too often weddings become about big cakes and budgets

    maybe he feels comfortable where he is without all that stress?

     

    I don't blame you for feeling deflated

    take care of yourself :-)

     
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    Enchanted1    April 1, 2001  

    You do what you have to do, and if it's thowing that binder out then good for you!

    EDIT: It's pretty annoying when people ask if/when you're getting married. I can relate. 

     

     
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    Jillbean    June 12, 2011  

    Oh honey, I'm glad you got rid of that binder! It sounds like it was haunting you from the bookshelf. 

     

     
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    ravenwait    February 14, 1996   WI

    wow! good for you! i'm sure you feel more free. you have those happy memories in your thoughts! you have the strength and wait some more. could you possibly ask your SO about it?

     
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    2PeasinaPod       Philadelphia

    Good for you for getting rid of that binder. You don't have to be ashamed for that...it sounds like he's the one dragging his feet right now.

    As for your girlfriends who are asking you if/when you're getting married, be honest with them. Tell them that by them asking doesn't make you feel any better about your situation, and you'd rather they not ask. It's like when someone asks a couple when they're going to have a baby. It's 100% none of their business and a really rude thing to ask.

     
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    ladyartichoke       UK

    This totally brought a tear to my eye.  I just want to give you a hug.  I'm sorry you've been having a bad waiting day but I think getting rid of your binder was no bad thing.  Hope you're feeling better soon!!  *Hugs*

     
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    CupcakeLove       Melbourne, Australia

    I admire your patience and the fact that you havent hit your boy over the head with that binder - I might have!

    I think getting rid of the binder was a good thing. It is allowing you to cleanse all your thoughts and feelings on the matter.

    Have you two had a discussion about not getting married, or is it still on the cards? I would just try and get some clarity for the future so you know where you stand with it all.

     
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    jude7186    January 1, 2012  

    I don't think what you did was that horrible. Having that binder would bug the crap out of me. I'd want to stare at it all of the time. Right now the best thing for you to do is to not surround yourself by your dream ring. You'll only keep thinking about it and feeling sad. He'll ask you when you least expect it. 

     
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    janie-janie    February 16, 2010  

    sounds cathartic to me! no reason to be ashamed.

    you went ring shopping in 2009 and there is still no proposal? I don't blame you for feeling antsy!

     
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    burnie217    December 1, 2012   Delaware

    haha @waitingzilla. i love it!

     
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    Reign14    December 13, 2014   NJ

    So sorry you were feeling down and got to that point. I can see myself doing that...except, I would make sure he knew about the conversatoin with my girlfriends and how I heard myself telling them it was never going to happen, and that I came home and threw the book out because of feeling my dream was never going to come true. I'd let him know what place you're in emotionally (in a non-confrontational way of course).

    I like to think if men love us and know we are not happy they will do something about it if they can. Wishful thinking but worth a try.

    Good luck hun.

     
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    callirome    October 27, 2013  

    I'm sorry you're feeling so discouraged, waiting can be so hard on us sometimes.

    We went ring shopping a few months ago and I must say you have much more strength than I because I was feeling defeated after two months, let alone two years.

    I hope everything works out for you and that the engagement is closer than you think it is.

     
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    Wow, definitely not the reaction I was expecting!

    Thank you, everyone, for being so kind.  I was prepared for a much different reaction, and to be told I was some sort of lunatic!  But I feel much better now that I've read everyone's replies, and actually feel a little silly for not tossing that thing in the garbage sooner!

    **HUGS to everyone!**

    @jessiesbabe: It's okay, I haven't been here long and I don't have any posts that talk about our history.  I will try to give you guys the Cliff's Notes version of our story:

    We've been dating since the beginning of '08, first talked about marriage summer of '09 - he brought it up first, not me.  He also moved into my apartment around this same time, not my first choice, I would've much prefered we stay living seperate, but he got laid off from his job and it ended up being our only choice after a while. Ring shopping came about because he asked me to.  He said he wanted to ask me to marry him, and wanted to know what ring I would like for engagement, so after about 2 months of looking around on the weekends we narrowed it down, got pricing, sized my finger, everything.  Ever since then it's just been a waiting-game.  Birthdays, holidays and anniversaries come and they pass, and still no ring.  I've been patient because I know a ring costs a lot of money, and we've had our fair share of financial ups and downs.  We've never been in a situation of severe hardship however, we've always had money for everything we need, and money here and there to go eat nice dinners, do fun things, and buy nice things for the house, upgrades for our vehicles, etc.  I even gave him an old diamond promise-ring I had from a previous relationship (worth about $800) that I told him he could use toward a down payment, so between that and putting away a little money each month, even though I didnt expect a proposal immediately, I did sort of expect it by now.

    @CupcakeLove: he hasn't said anything about NOT wanting to get married, it's just been such a long time since he's said anything on the subject that wasn't a joke.  He brings up us getting married all the time and he jokes about it.  He introduces me to people as his "future wife", he'll take a cocktail ring off of a display at the store and put it on my finger, he even talks about songs that we should play at our wedding. When friends ask him when he is going to ask me to marry him he tells them "When I have money for the ring", but he never gets more specific than that.  Do you have half the money? a third of the money?  At this point I don't know if he's done anything at all.  Half of me feels like he brings this stuff up all the time because it's coming soon, but then the other half of me feels like he brings it up all the time because he's trying to hide the fact that he's no step closer to proposing to me than he was in '09 when we went shopping.

    @aprose: "its not a happy feeling to have your hopes raised like that only to have them deflated little by little as times goes on."  Amen to that!!

    @ChicChick: I haven't sat him down and had a serious talk about it.  I've thought about doing it a million times, but when it comes down to it, I'm too proud to let him know how disappointed and fragile I am over the situation.  I've always been a very independent woman with a modern mind-set and very casual about the topic of marriage (If I meet my soulmate and it happens, great! If not I'm not going to go marry some doof just for the sake of getting married).  I think the hardest part for me is realizing that now, now that I have met my soulmate, it means A LOT to me that we get married.  I'm also afraid of making him feel pressured into giving me a ring, or worse yet making him feel like I don't value him just because he hasn't given me a ring. I know however that eventually I will have to have this talk with him, it's unavoidable.

    P.S. Glad you all liked my 'Waiting-zillas' joke, maybe we should pitch that to TLC or WE or whatever network that other show comes on, hahaha :)

     

     
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    wishingonadream04    September 2013   California

    I'm sorry you're feeling so down right now and I also agree that it was probably a good thing you threw it out. I think it's time to have a chat with your SO and find out why he took you to look at rings and still haven't proposed yet. After this long, you deserve to know what's going on and I hope his answer is a positive one.

     
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    CupcakeLove       Melbourne, Australia

    Thanks for sharing your story with everyone. I totally get not wanting to say anything because of your pride, and I think you can explain how you are feeling to him in a way that doesn't make him feel pressured.

    I would just explain that you are feeling a bit confused and frustrated - you decided on the perfect ring back in 2009, and since then he keeps talking about your future together but as yet you have seen no evidence of professing. tell him it is confusing and upsetting for him to keep giving you those mixed messages.

    The longer you leave it, the harder it may get and the last thing you want is for it to come out the wrong way, when you have had a bad day. Because trust me, I've done that!

     
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    loveneverfails    February 2012   perth

    only my opinion but if ur guys are allready living together and he wants to marry you and talks about it them mabye have a chat to him and if hes struggling to save u both could save together mabye ..  when my (FI) was looking for rings i gave strict instruction that he was so spend no more than $2000 so mabye ur guy is saving a a massive rock ! i would have a chat tell him how u feel but dont be too pushy ask if marridge is something he still wants because u do and he mean the world to you ect ect

     

     

    ** good job on chucking away the binder i would of done the same !

     
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    gramgeek    March 10, 2013  

    Don't feel ashamed!!! There's nothing wrong about you, your feelings or you actions... I know how you feel. Most of the bees here can totally relate to you.

     
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    "I'm too proud to let him know how disappointed and fragile I am over the situation."

    As my sister says, "a closed mouth doesn't get fed." I totally understand feeling pride about being an independant woman but don't ever look at admiting your true feelings as a sign of weakness. There is strength in saying that there is a problem that needs to be fixed. Not that this is a problem, but perhaps reinerating how you feel will help him see just how important this is to you and to understand how you feel.

    Once I let an issue fester for a while and suddenly just kind of unloaded a bunch of emotional crap on my boyfriend out of the blue. The poor guy didn't know what hit him. But after listening to me sob, he very calmly requested that next time I don't wait so long to tell him. That we are in this relationship together and if there is an issue he can help fix, then to let him know.

    Same thing here. Tell him how you feel about marrying him and how important it is to you (I'm assuming it is important, yes?). Don't worry about possibly pressuring him. I feel like if the guy is serious about marriage, he won't feel pressure when the topic is brought up. 

     
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    Lots of great ideas ladies, thank you Smile

    You are all right, I need to say something.  It's no excuse, but my SO and I are such 'comedians', it's hard for me to bring up serious topics out of the blue without some sort of segway.  Even if it's something like the power bill needing to be paid, haha.  I've been telling myself for a while now that the next time he jokes about us getting married or calls me his "future wife" I would bring up the topic, but up until this point I've chickened out every time.

    Next time it happens, I NEED to say something.  And you guys are right, I don't have to be accusatory or pushy, I just need to explain how much it confuses me. Like loveneverfails suggested, maybe I can offer to pick up an extra bill each month or something, to free up some more money for him.  I'd like to find a way I can help speed this along, but without ruining the surprise.

     
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    MrsSl82be    October 24, 2009  

    @MisfitPrincess: awww I feel for you. I definitely think you need to say something, rings do not have to cost a lot of money. My husband got me a gorgeous ring and it cost $1300. You can find some for much less than that even, depending on what you want.

     
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    soyjoy222    June 1, 2012   PA

    Aw! I felt so bad when I read this story!

    FI used to call me a "wait monster". I really was a monster.

    I threw out my high school journals that had all my sad times in it because I could feel that they were haunting me from the closet. Once they were gone, I felt like I could finally move forward. Strange, but things really can seem like they are haunting you in your own house!

    He won't need the binder to look at something, will he?

     
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    kay01    May 27, 2012   NH/VT

    Great advice already from everyone.  If you need the guts to say something. maybe wear something that will remind you that the next time he jokes, you'll be honest with him.  So say, you put a scrunchie on your wrist.  Yes, fashion faux, but it's your reminder you see it and it tells you "speak up" each time you see it and then you make the move when the opening comes.  I think you should at the minimum tell him it's hurtful to talk about it but not know where you are in the process or how long it'll take to get there, so he should stop talking about it.  But you should also request him to share his thoughts on timing - 2 years is a loooong loooong time to go without an open conversation on it.

     

    ETA: I would have just left the binder out myself.  And if I was feeling particularly unhappy/angry/frustrated...left a note effectively saying "My friends were wondering when we were going to get married and kept asking me tonight.  So am I." 

     
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    @soyjoy222: well, that's a question to which I am uncertain of the answer.  Like I said, that folder had my ring size, the serial number for the ring and all that other stuff.  I would like to think that by now he has atleast put the order in for the ring and is making payments on it, in which case he wouldn't need the folder anymore. But I can't be for sure that is the case.

    If he hasn't ordered it, and goes looking for that folder so he CAN order it, and can't find it, I hope like hell he paid enough attention while we were shopping to remember the style and the designer on his own!  If not he's going to have to come ask me, and that's going to suck for him! lol!

     
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    @kay01: I wish I had the 'cajones' to do something like that!! Laughing

     
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    kay01    May 27, 2012   NH/VT

    The thing is, it's your life too.  While a note is passive aggressive (tempting, but not ideal), it's very reasonable to sit him down and have an honest conversation with him and see what (when?) he's thinking.  That will help you too, if he says "1 yr" you won't keep getting your hopes up.  And if he says something you're not ok with, you should let him know that.  It's a decision by and for two people, not just one.

     
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    Jayparadise    July 9, 2011   Toronto

    awwww boo hugs trust me knowing me drama queen woulds flung the binder and woke him up lol but honestly just cruel  shopping and nothing to show wonder how long he will make you wait for the wedding mean just buy a ring to make you feel good and wait for the wedding at least.

     
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    Teacups    March 10, 2012   Douglasville, GA

    I was a waiting zilla.  We went out and ring shopped.. and 8 months later....nothing.  Turns out, he was waiting until we went on vacation with all of our friends (many of whom moved far away) so that he could propose with all of my best friends in the whole world there....  So in hindsight, I felt like a jerk for being impatient...so don't worry.  if he's serious enough to look at rings, he's just waiting for the right time.

     
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    spaneshal    October 19, 2012   UK

    I think your reaction is totally understandable, and as for your friends.. they do not understand what you are going through, did they wait so long for their partners to propose? I think not, or they would think twice before asking you questions.

    Very often I look at my collection of "ideas" photos I have stored on my computer.. I sigh and delete it every so often as ideas grow old, and I think, why bother as he hasnt even asked me yet!

    Lets not give up hope though, new ideas, new dreams replace the old ones!

     

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