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Rules of dress shopping: Randy from Say Yes to the Dress

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    ddubzz    June 5, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Did anyone see last night's new episode?  Randy has 5 rules of dress shopping.  I think EVERY bride should stick to these!  It would lead to less headaches and dress drama!  Tongue out

    1.  Don't try on dresses that are outside your budget

    2.  Don't keep secrets from your bridal consultant

    3.  Once you find THE dress, stop shopping

    4.  Leave the entourage at home

    and my personal fave...

    5.  ALWAYS wear underwear (lol)!!

     

     
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    jackie-o    October 31, 2010   Seattle, WA

    I totally watched this and FH watched it with me. He asked if I broke any of Randy's rules, HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

    EDIT - - the girl that already had her dress picked out...That whole appt was just flat out wrong.  Her mother was naaaasty pants...I felt terrible for Keasha.

     
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    Masala    October 22, 2011   Ohio

    @jackie-o UGH, that girl's mom was just awful. I don't understand why they wouldn't have just bought the dress she loved and called it a day.

     
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    ddubzz    June 5, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    I know!  That appointment was a disaster-- I would have been SO embarrassed if my mom acted like that!  I felt so bad for Keasha too!

    I mean, I understand wanting to get the best price for the same dress, but that mom was super rude... "I don't see why you need to know that information"  Surprised

     
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    OttawaBride2011    May 21, 2011   Ottawa, Ontario

    I watched! And I so far have followed all of the rules! Just gotta make it another year without looking at other dresses lol.

    And I agree, that appointment was just awful. The mother was insanely rude!

     
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    noritake22    March 31, 2011   Seattle

    I saw that episode, and I loved the rules.

    I agree, that mom was horrible. The girl really wanted to get the dress, but her mom had issues. I was thinking that they probably didn't have the dress from the other store and the mom was trying to get a better deal by saying they did.

     
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    Mrs. Menard to Be    February 11, 2010   Kansas

    i watched! & i followed Randy's rules! :)

    & that girl's mother was awful! umm hello! tell her the price at the other store and she'll give you a discount!! if i were keasha, i wouldnt want their business anyway.

     
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    jackie-o    October 31, 2010   Seattle, WA

    HAHAHHAHAH - - - you girls crack me up...I heart this community......

     
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    That whole family (the girl and mom with the dress already) was just REALLY off to me. The girl was acting like a pre-teen and the mom was just RUDE..and dumb. How can Kleinfeld's price match if you don't give them the price?

     
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    miss-spunkin    May 29, 2010   Midwest

    I didn't follow all the rules. The first time I went shopping, I tried on dresses way outside my budget, because I thought I was just going to "look" and get a feel for what I want. And I still know that that one dress was THE dress (sighs). 

    Although, I always kept my crowd small. The most people I brought was three, and they were two super close friends and my fiance's sister. Then the other times I went, it was with my mom and my sister. 

    hahaha that's so funny, people seriously don't wear underwear ick!! Although this one time I went, I wore ruffly underwear and all the dress zippers got stuck in my underwear hahaha. the consultant teased me ;)

     
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    trugem    January 2011  

    I made sure that I didn't bring a large group. I only wanted to bring my Mama, my cousins and aunts were mad, but oh well. My family is very opinionated and I didn't want them to try to run my shopping experience. I thought my search for the perfect dress would be longer, but I never tried on other dresses once I decided on THE dress.

     
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    AquaBride1010    October 1, 2010   TN Aquarium

    I watched it with my fiance and he was "disappointed" they didn't have a clip for rule number 5. Since they had one for every other rule...although most were of the same bride.

    Although, my fiance would like to add a 6th rule..Don't go shopping until you're engaged.

    I followed most of Randy's rules. My party was small (just my fiance), I stayed in my budget, I was honest with my consultant, and I did wear underwear. But I did shop again after buying my first dress. We had a major venue chance and no longer was compromising on the princess dress that my dad wanted me to find. (so I feel that''s an excpetion) Still didn't spend over $500 between the two dresses (my internal budget)

    But yes that bride who had found the dress at the other store was just wrong. We both felt bad for Keasha.

     
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    princessleia    June 25, 2011   Baltimore

    I haven't found my dress yet, but I definitely keep trying on dresses outside of my budget. Though my reason is that when I finally find one that I love, I want to get it used so that I have a chance at getting it in my budget. It might not be the smartest idea but I'll let you know if it bites me in the butt. Tongue out

     
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    greenleafmountain    7.31.2010  

    In defense of that girl and her mom- it sounded like they planned a trip to NY and had appointments at a couple shops, but they really thought they would get the dress at Klienfelds.  Klienfelds charges you a fee if you cancel your appointment without a certian amount of notice, so the store's own policy was probably what made them say "Well, let's still keep the other appointment and see if we find something better."

    I also know exactly why she didn't tell them the price.  Say the price at the other store was $2000.  If she tells Klienfelds that, they'll come back and say "we can do it for $1950." When really, they maybe could have gone as low at $1800 or $1700.  Making a purchase that big really is a business decision, and as much as I like the consultants, I don't mind it when people stand their ground concerning money.

    But yeah, I agree with all those rules, except I would change #3 to "once you buy the dress...".  But then, I was never a person who LOVED my dress, so I kept looking, and then when I had gone through all the stores in my town I was like "well, I guess I'll just go back and get that one..."

     
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    artsybride10    July 31, 2010  

    ...My favorite part about Crazy Bride and Mom was that the daughter said something along the lines of Ive never known my mother to price comparison shop before. Thats not like her. 

    Bwahahahahaha... Whatever crazy bride. You moms a pro.

     
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    I really love watching "Say Yes".  But I think the idea that you are going to try on just a couple dresses and think this is "the one" is unusual.  Most of us don't wear gowns very often and so I think you need to try on more that just a couple dresses.  I've spent time trying on formal gowns for other occasions... and know that I've put on more than one gown, and definitely felt that I needed to see a couple styles.  (With bridal gowns I would think that you need to be able to look at the beading, pleating, bodice tops... once you have selected a style.)  The first one might be the one... but I would guess that you are going to need to try on a few more to know it for sure.  I definitely think that bringing a huge number of friends seems unpractical. The sorority girls always seem like just a gaggle of girls who aren't serious about buying... so I can see why it might be annoying to Kleinfelds... although I can also imagine that shopping with your girl friends and later with your family might give you a direction for the styles you are interested in.  I don't think it's fair for any shop to assume that you are going to purchase your gown immediately.  (I have a friend who was pressured into buying... "because she had such a short turn around time"... when the reality was that she had 6 to 8 months... )   I would think that going to three or four shops makes sense.  I would also think that it would give you an idea of prices, quality, and services the shops offer.    It also might show you that one shop is trying to pressure you into a sale, and another shop is all about the service.  You might have a better understanding of alteration fees and other services that aren't normally used on a regular basis.  (I was in a wedding that after having a bridesmaid's gown sized to fit... it did not and the bridal shop wanted to charge me more than double the actual cost of the gown...and because I do have an understanding of dress structure...I knew that the alterations were going to cost even more than that because the seamstress wasn't going to fix the problem.  I didn't pay for alterations at the shop but another bridesmaid did... because she didn't know of any other options in her area.)  The bridemaids gowns that were supposed to cost around $145" ended up being over $300 basically because the bride didn't do any research.  I would have rather bought a quality gown at $300 rather than a cheap dress that was priced too high to begin with... 

     
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    jenbrandner    Aug 7, 2010   Wisconsin

    Absolutely agree with number one!  Nothing sucks worse than to try on something that looks stunning and then have to put it back on the rack.  I think every dress they sell at the store on that show is over my budget - one girl was going to spend $6500 woooow!

    As far as number three goes, I think sometimes you don't know a dress is The One right away when you put it on.  I know a dress is The One when I start comparing all the other dresses to it.  That's the same way I found my venue, invitations, and bridesmaid dresses.

     
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    KatieK    October 14, 2011  

    I saw it too! Rule #3 is SO important. There are SO SO SO many gorgeous dresses out there....we can drive ourselves crazy rethinking our decision and trying on more gowns.

     
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    Jessie516    May 16, 2009   Ann Arbor, MI

    Love this show and love Randy's rules.  I only went out shopping with one person at at time (either my sis or my mom) and I think it helped me stay focused.  I think with a whole crew of people, I would have gotten distracted and swayed by what other people liked instead of what I wanted.  I also definitely agree that it's good to STOP looking once you find your dress.  I know I second guessed my dress in the months between ordering and my fittings.  How could you not when you're on WB seeing everyone else's beautiful gowns every day?  I knew that I made the right choice, so I'm glad I didn't go back out and look for real.

     
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    accorn    June 9, 2012   Texas/Louisiana

    I have issue with the first rule because I've seen consultants break it- which I just think is mean, they show the girl this gorgeous dress and she finds out how much it is (and how much over the budget it is) once it is already on.

    That'd make me pout.

     
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    greenleafmountain    7.31.2010  

    accorn- I know!  I've seen girls go in and say "my budget is $4000" and they'll start bringing them dresses that are $5000 and more.  The one petite blonde consultant (don't know her name) once was like "well, she said $4000, and $4700 is in the "4" range".  Uh, If I said $4000, to me that would be the maximum number not to go over, not the "range"...

     
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    veganglam    January 5, 2013   Philadelphia; Wedding in NYC

    Agree about how to know when a dress is "The One", jenbradner.  I went to Kleinfeld knowing that I was really into a bunch of styles of dresses but there was one in particular that stuck out in my mind.  I tried them all on (with my oh-so-patient and awesome consultant Audrey...that woman is so kind and such a pro) and found that, despite the battered state of the sample, the dress that really stuck out in my mind above the others was my favorite of all I'd tried on.  There were just things right about it that didn't exist in the other dresses.  But Kleinfeld was the first place I tried on dresses, and I wanted to try more, so I left without buying because I wanted to be sure.  I've tried on a lot of lovely things since but I kept comparing them all to that one dress!  That's how I know it's the one for me.  I can't wait to go back in June with my mom (who wasn't there the first time) to make the downpayment on it.  I wear a lot of dresses and had a lot of ideas about things I wanted in a dress, but wedding dresses are a different beast from any dress I've ever bought before, and I need to do a lot of comparison shopping to make sure nothing would come along and blow my mind and change everything that I thought was right about Favorite Dress.

    And who on earth doesn't wear underwear to try on dresses??  I wore a neutral-colored, semi-sheer pair of full-coverage bikini briefs to my first dress appointment and I still felt kind of awkward because I'm pretty sure my consultant could sort of see my buttcrack.

     
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    Rule number five seems especially vital!  (And after watching the show... one might think that people would want to wear a something that might go under a white or ivory gown...  like maybe white, ivory, or a flesh tone!  (I was just in a lingere shop, and it occurred to me that for some women wearing white under some clothing might have the same effect as wearing black or red does for me...)  In other words depending on your skin tone, you want to wear undergarments that aren't going to show through the gown! 

     
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    Miss Pinot Grigio    March 21, 2009   Indianapolis, IN

    Yep, saw that one! He definitely had some GREAT advice for brides....even though not many on that show actually follow them. :-p

     
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    lairdea    September 5, 2010   Ann Arbor

    Did anyone else almost die laughing when the mom said she "deserved to wear white!" great, way to tell all of the nation that your daughter is a virgin! I know they are proud of it, but still TMI!

     
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    veganglam    January 5, 2013   Philadelphia; Wedding in NYC

    I'm wondering what exactly, "2.  Don't keep secrets from your bridal consultant" refers to?  Like, "I have a knife in my purse and I'm going to stab you with it," or, "I hate my waist but don't want to admit it so I'm not going to tell you and I'm also not going to tell you why I'm secretly unhappy with all the dresses you bring in," or, "I'm not really a bride, I'm just playing dress-up," or, "I had a miscarriage five years ago," or what??

     

    Side note: Aghhh this is like one of my top 3 favorite shows on TV and I can't watch it because we don't have cable and no one posts full episodes online!!! 

     
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    lairdea    September 5, 2010   Ann Arbor

    @veganglam, i think the type of secrets they are talking about are 'I fell in love with another dress, see if you can top it' or 'I already bought another dress, so I'm hoping everything here disappoints me' or, as I imagine happens often at Kleinfelds 'I'm only here because I want to be on T.V. excuse me while I waste 2 hours of your time.' But disclosing previous miscarriages is interesting too!

     
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    veganglam    January 5, 2013   Philadelphia; Wedding in NYC

    Ohhhhh hahaha.  Good point.  Yeah, there are far too many brides who seem to come in with that agenda.

     

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