Post # 1
Hi all, I need some help please on deciding between two rings. They are both 1.56 round brilliant cut diamonds (same exact measurements)
one is a J colour, VVS2 clarity, Excellent Cut, symmetry, polish, GIA certified….
the other is G colour, SI2 clarity, Excellent Cut and symmetry, Very good polish, GIA certified….
I am trying to see the SI2 diamond to see if there are visable inclusions to the naked eye. BUT what are your thoughts on the two rings – which one should I go for?? any advise would be GREAT. Thanks so much
Post # 2
Go for the J with better clarity. Since it is excellent cut polish and symmetry it will appear whiter.GIA graded J ‘s are still very white.It will sparkle like no ones bussiness! Si2 will more than likely have visible inclusions and is not triple excellent.
Post # 3
I would go for the J as long as it scores under 2 using the HCA calculator: http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
Post # 4
Lower color and better clarity as long as the cut is amazing, I’d follow cmbr’s advice and check it with the HCA calculator.
Post # 5
thats useful – thanks for sending the link. the J stone scores a 1.4 on the HCA calculator and the G scores a 1.9! I just always thought a better colour is more desirable than clarity.. but maybe i am wrong!
Post # 6
If the G is eyeclean then I say go for it, but being an SI2 it likely isn’t. As for the J, is the cut of the stone ideal? If it isn’t you’re very likely not going to be happy with a J coloured stone, it will show a fair amount of colour, though having an ideak cut J would help hide the colour a bit – CUT IS MOST IMPORTANT IN THE 4Cs*. Also, are you planning to set the diamond in a setting with a halo or side diamonds? Something to keep in mind would be the contrast between the J and the side diamonds (usually F-H colored). Honestly, if the G isn’t eyeclean I’d say to keep looking.
Post # 7
The cut of the J colour is excellent with excellent polish and excellent symmetry on the GIA scale. it wont be set in a halo but will have very very small side stones in the band which is half plain platimun, half diamonds. We are planning to get it in the debeers promise ring setting.
The reason we went as low as J is that we tried on a J diamond (but lower clarity than mine) in debeers and were happy with the colour but im not sure if they have better J stones than the one i have bought?!?!
Thanks v much
Post # 8
First comes the cut, then the clarity. You can see that the color doesn’t really matter that much 😉
Post # 9
It depends on the J stone, it depends on the inclusion. Any chance you can see them both in person? I’ve seen some j stones that have a brownish tint and others with a yellowish tint, and i would prefer a buttery yellow to a brownish tint.
some inclusions are more noticeable than others. Personally I think crystal inclusions can be awesome – it’s an extra diamond or a different stone in there, like peridot or garnet! How cool is that? If it is a streak, or a carbon spot, or something else big and dark and visible that isn’t as nice. But not all inclusions are created equal.
Post # 10
I have an SI2. Love it! I don’t understand why people pay a premium for a VVS when you can’t see any imperfections anyhow!
Post # 11
Harriet1234: I would def. try to see it in person. I would focus more on clarity if the color is about the same. There will not be much of a difference between G and J. Depends on the lighting.
But, VVS2 and SI1 may have a huge difference. Mine is VVS2 and looks perfect to he naked eye. My friends has to be in the low S/ high I range and looks terrible (sorry friend). It looks very cheap and has tons of black specs that are very obvious even on first glance.
*I would say the cut of hers was probably fair to poor, though. It did not have much depth, so the inclusions were much more visible. Mine is excellen cutt, so it is very sparkly. if it did have inclusions, it would be harder to tell.
Post # 12
Harriet1234: I’d go with the J, unless the G is eye clean (may or may not be–you’d have to see in person).
TheMrsTulip: Not all SI stones are created equal.
Post # 13
MissMarple: Never said they were. All I said was I don’t understand why people pay a premium for a clarity of VVS.
Post # 14
both of the diamonds are exactly the same price ($5 difference) so its hard to decide. I will try and get the SI2 one so I can compare the two together! thanks for all the comments… im just nervous that the J is noticably darker than a G diamond but as im not a expert i dont know what im looking for to see if the J is a good J as opposed to a darker J!!
Post # 15
TheMrsTulip: Oh you mean in general? I think sometimes it’s psychological (some people feel better buying higher clarity grades) and sometimes it’s purely logical (larger carat sizes show more inclusions, step cuts don’t hide inclusions well, etc)