Oh no! I've been following your story and this is heart-wrenching. You're amazing for sticking with him.
I think you really need to talk to him. Ask him, tell him you're having feelings of insecurity about it - can he please be super open with you, has he been meeting people from his past lifestyle, where's he been going... can you go with him next time he goes somewhere like this... have you been going to his NA meetings with him? Is there some sort of support for you? He should understand that you're having trust issues, and he should be completely 100% transparent with you on everything. Is your relationship in a place that you could ask about the "ya" text?
This is way over my head, but my heart goes out to you.
I can't tell you if he is or isn't using again, but I would suggest Al-Anon or Nar-Anon. They're groups designed to give you a sounding board and support, whether your SO is currently using or has in the past.
I'm the child of recovering drug and alcohol addict. While I didn't participate in Al-Anon or Nar-Anon, I did go to NA and AA meetings. The support found there was incredible. Best of weshes!
How do I confront him about this? I'm shaking so badly I can barely type. I don't know what this means.
@anonymousbee62: I would be totally honest with him about reading his texts. But I would also tell him that you aren't mad and that you are only worried and want to know what is going on. If he feels attacked and violated he probably won't tell you the truth.
I don't think it's in your head. The texts about money are what would concern me. Everything else is explainable but the getting him money texts, don't sound right. Do tell him you read the texts. With everything you have been through I think you have the right to read them.
Don't do it accusingly but ask him to be honest with you. Remind him that you are asking because you love him.
I'm so sorry about this :(
Oh no. I don't know... I don't know what to say.
This all just makes me nervous for you. This is not on your head- something is definitelygoing on.
I agree with PP on what to say to him. Let us know how it goes if you can.
ETA: I just read your other posts. I am so sorry you're going through this. I had a close family member on cocaine and other drugs so I understand some of what you're going ThrougH. You can PM me if you would like.
I told him I read his texts. I don't remember exactly what happened because I feel like a mess right now. I'm going to try to write this out so I can have something to remember how it happend as well as get input.
He said the texts did have to do with that, but swore that they were from before he had gotten clean adn went to rehab. The guy still hadn't paid him back. That seems possible because people who use are terrible with paying back money.
This part I'm uncertain of, so take it with a grain of salt: I want to say that he didn't admit to anything until I asked him if he would pass a drug test. He gave a vague answer and I asked him more straightforwardly, and he said he wasn't sure. He said he had taken two Lortabs (an opiate, like heroin) about a week ago and wasnt sure if they would still show up. Cue broken heart. He said he hadn't sought them out, that a friend had had them legitimately, and he saw them lying around in the bathroom and just took two. Made it sound like he didn't even think about it. He said he was working up to talking to me about it, but he just got scared. He claims he told his father about it. He'll be getting a call from me tomorrow.
I asked if he had done anything any other time. He said he had much closer to when he first got clean. It's been a while, it seems. Again, two Lortabs. Or something.
I do know recovering from heroin is hard. I was expecting a potential lapse. I told myself that I could forgive a lapse if he told me about it right away and took the steps he needed to get back on track. I couldn't stick around for full relapse, lying, manipulating. I could have gotten pass the lapse, but I don't know if I can get past him not telling me. It makes it so much worse, and makes me wonder if there is more he hadn't told me. This is the fourth time he promised me he would do everything he can to stop, but that he will tell me everything. He didn't. But heroin is hard to recover from. But do I want to stay with someone who is recovering from such a serious type of drug addiction but who isn't telling me everything? Not really. But I love him, and he is otherwise an amazing guy.
He's sleeping on the couch tonight. I would have asked him to leave, but we don't know many people here right now because, well, most of our friends have left this college town. And I don't want him going somewhere that might have more access to drugs. I would have left but I really don't want to keep the couple friends I do have left here up all night when they have class tomorrow. Maybe that's stupid.
I also don't know if I'm right in feeling suspicious about how many times he took it. Maybe he is really doing a good job for the most part of getting better, but there have been times in the past, before he went to rehab and made a serious effort, when he admitted to the truth, but not the full truth. Now he has made a serious effort. So maybe this time he is telling me the whole truth. But how the hell am I supposed to know?
Plus, I wonder about how tidy his story sounds. He took two Lortabs around the time of rehab, and two Lortabs eight days ago. Forgetting the detail that he took them once so recently--which makes it sound so much more like he could have been using some here and there the whole way through--why was it exactly two Lortabs specifically both times? Is that a crazy suspicion? I don't know, I'm not even thinking perfectly straight right now.
I don't know if I'm just disgusted by him right now, but the whole time he was telling me he was sorry and saying all the right things, it sounded so phony. I don't know, I'm not in the right frame of mind to know.
It also sucks because this is a lot like how I found out how bad his addiction was last time, before he went to rehab. I had asked if he would pass a drug test. He said yes. It wasn't until I told him I had a drug test in the apartment that he confessed. Granted, this time I didn't say I had a drug test, but he later admitted in a different context that he didn't know if I had bought another one.
@anonymousbee62: Wow, that's rough. I don't really have any good advice, but I am sending prayers/happy thoughts in your direction.
@anonymousbee62: I'm so sorry. I don't have any good advice either, but I guess just a reminder for you to always take care of yourself. And of course, think carefully before having children with him (don't even know if that's on your radar).
Thank you. I can use positive thoughts any reminders. Honestly, I felt like I was all but ready to marry him once he was clean long enough. Don't know what I'm doing now.
@anonymousbee62: I'm so sorry you're going through this. All I can say is that you have my support whether you decide to stay with him or leave him. I don't think you could make a wrong decision as long as you make it for yourself. Godspeed.
Are you prepared to deal with this the rest of your life? Personally, I think you have given him enough chances and he does not want to change. You can't fix him.
i'm so sorry you're going through this. just so you're fully informed; as long as he's taking suboxone, he's not sober. it's a synthetic opiod which he is now dependent on instead of heroin. i'm glad he's been going to NA meetings, but if he's fully committed to sobriety, he will become sober of all types of opiods.
I think that all you can positively conclude from this is that you do not trust him. And I don't think anybody would blame you. He's definitely broken your trust enough that it would be hard for anybody to recover. I think you could probably benefit from some professional counseling on this. We are not born with the tools for dealing with this sort of situation, they need to be learned. Good luck to you.
@anonymousbee62: Is all this really worth it?
There's a point where sticking with someone, no matter how much you love them, is a bad idea. It's clearly taking a huge toll on you.
It's not your job to baby him or fix him or even stand by him. You clearly don't trust him, and for good reason.
I'm not saying you need to completely abandon him, but is this what you really want for your life, for your future? It doesn't seem fair.
I'm not an addiction specialist, but I know a few things about reality:
1. If he's in recovery, he should not be settling up old debts with people who used drugs with him. So that "story" about the texts and the money is at best a bad idea and at worst a lie.
2. One does not casually take lortab if they want to be sober.
Please get to Al-anon and figure out how to let this guy go.
@anonymousbee62: This stands out to me the most:
I don't know if I'm just disgusted by him right now, but the whole time he was telling me he was sorry and saying all the right things, it sounded so phony. I don't know, I'm not in the right frame of mind to know.
I'm sorry but he sounds like he is full of excuses. Drugs REALLY change a person. I myself could never be with someone with a drug problem. I could never start a family with someone who had a drug problem. That's not just you anymore --- that's a child in the mix as well!
@the boss of you: Agreed.
@anonymousbee62: I have had people close to me work through addiction, and he doesn't sound ready or serious about it. You don't just nonchalantly take narcotics when you are serious about recovery - that is enough for someone to go back to rehab ASAP. I think you need to be apart from him. I wish you the best.
I just want to give a little bit of input , because I can relate to how you're feeling (not directly and I'll tell you why).
My father is an alcoholic. He is a binge drinker who is constantly struggling to be sober. He has not had a binge in over a year (which is great!) but I know he has drank. He knows that as an alcoholic he cannot have a casual drink because it's so easy for him to just slip into his addiction all over again - but his addiction often steers him in a direction that he doesn't necessarily want to go. When he does binge, it's always me who takes care of him (not my mother or sister). Because of this, I'm CONSTANTLY suspicious and worried about everything that has to do with the possibility of him drinking. When I hear him go upstairs, I get the heart-stopping feeling that he is going to grab a bottle of wine (even though it's not why he's going there). I check bottles of vodka to make sure they're full, I count bottles of beer to make sure he hasn't drank them, etc. It's pure suspicion that does this to me. I cannot blame you for being suspicious of your boyfriend or even checking his texts. I will also say that I think your suspicions are right - though I hope for your sake they are not.
Because you now know of his addiction (though unlikely that you'll ever know the full extent of it) he is going to work extra hard to make sure that you don't have any information to suspect he may be using again; it's inevitable that some points will. You should try having a completely open and honest conversation with him about his addiction, his recovery and your future together. Because if I may be so honest, it will be incredibly hard for you to continue your life with someone who has an addiction and a tendency to lie about it. My father has always told me 'my biggest fear is that you'll marry a man just like me'.
Again, I hope I haven't offended you (or anyone else for that matter), I'm just being honest in my experience with a similar situation. I feel certain that my mother would vouch for this as well.
Please keep us updated and I wish you the best :)
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I'm not sure what to do. I don't know if I'm overreacting. And frankly, I'm afraid that anyone who hasn't read my other posts may get the wrong idea from what I can explain in one post. He's in the shower now, so I'm trying to be fast.
Short story: I found out my boyfriend was addicted to heroin. He got better, started going to NA meetings, got a job, is on suboxone. Seems to be doing great.
But. When he borrowed my car the other day (he was low on gas and his new job is 2 weeks late on pay, so he hasn't gotten a substantial check yet) he put a fair number of miles on it (75 maybe?), and explained to me why when I asked. He said he went to this cool walkway a ways away. Okay, maybe that doesn't mean anything.
I've been thinking about it, though, and I checked his phone. There were texts from someone I don't know. I don't know everyone he grew up with, so that's not necessarily anything. The texts had this guy telling my SO he couldn't get him money yet. Then another similar text a few weeks later.
I also noticed a single text from my SO earlier that said "Ya." There wasn't a single text before it, so I don't know what the "Ya" is in response to. Also, there are other texts from other people that occured before the date of his "Ya" text, so I worry that he deleted them. But why would he do that, you know what I mean?
I'm really worried. Tell me this isn't in my head. Is it? I'm kind of freaked.