Post # 1
I hired our guy, and I’m happy with that. sort of. My Fiance got excited and went for this biggest(read: most expensive) package. and really it’s not a great fit for us. and I don’t like the idea of spending that much on photography.
I”m toying around the idea of asking him to renegotiate the cotnract to a lesser package, and still let us apply our retainer to that. or canceling him all together. hoenstly even after our $600 retainer, I could hire another photographer and still come out much much less then his over all cost.
has anyone done this? have you regretted it later? should we stick withour original gut reaction?
Post # 3
What does the package you bought include? How about the cheaper packages? Do you love his pictures, or find them not to your taste?
Personally, photography is one area in which I would prefer to spend more to get someone more experienced and talented. It can make a massive difference in the quality of your pictures and how discreet/on-the-ball the photographer is on the day.
Post # 4
knowing what the package you signed up for includes would be helpful. There are lots of cadillac packages out there that have all kinds of things you don’t really need (‘professional’ prints – typically done at costco, the photog just charges you a premium etc)
Post # 5
@MsGinkgo: Um, pro prints are not done at CostCo. For real. That’s just 100% misinformation.
OP can you post what your package includes, the cost, and maybe a link to your photog? Oh, and your location. We can help you figure out where to cut if needed.
Post # 6
@crayfish: actually, most profession prints these days ARE in fact printed where you can get any pictures printed – i have several friends who are photographers and friends who work at photo labs and both confirm that. Professional prints used to be prepared in a darkroom and had specific requirements for processing etc, this is not standard practice any more. Some may use more specialized printing services but you’ll be hard pressed to find photographers processing their own photos in the digital age – if you want film prints that’s a different story all together.
Post # 7
@crayfish: I agree. PP has misinformation.
OP: Can you give us more information? How expensive is the biggest package? What do you get?
I suppose you could ask him to give you a package with less, but it might be awkward for you. If you like him & his work, I would switch packages rather than lose your $600 deposit. Does the bigger package come with an album? Getting an album from your pro is worth it, IMO.
Post # 8
@MsGinkgo: I’ve never met a pro that has their prints done at Costco. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but improbable – this has little to do with self printing but more quality control. I’ve actually done print tests from Costco versus the pro labs we use and Costco’s color profiles were all over the place, and they tend to also change color over time. Anyhow that’s another topic altogether.
OP – once you’ve signed a contract and have paid a retainer your photographer isn’t under any obligation to downgrade your agreement. He/she might depending on whether or not they think they can re-book the date. I think it boils down more to whether or not you think the value of this photographer’s art/results are equal to the price you paid. If you don’t think they are then you probably should find another photographer because you’ll undoubtedly be disappointed with them if you are going into it already feeling like you’ve paid too much.
Post # 9
You can try explain to your photographer your financial strain and that you really want to work with him/her but are unable to due to the cost, and ask if he would be willing to negotiate the contract. He may or may not want to do so. Since your wedding is fast approaching he may want to as he does not want to lose business and end up not having a wedding to shoot that day.
But like previous posters have said, what is included in your package and what are you paying? Photographer is probably one of the most important aspects of the wedding to me and I wouldnt hesitate to spend more in that area, more so than any others.
Also, I am not sure how true the printing at costco thing is, I worked at a ‘regular’ photo printing lab for years and hardly had any professional photographers come in to have their clients photos printed.
Post # 10
$2900.00 includes 12 hours
a coffe table book
a disc of prints with print release
a portrait session – which I don’t want, he is givine me a scond coffe table book in place
guestbook with engagement photos
a wedding website – which we didn’t realise/decide untila fter the contract that we don’t need/want and he hasn’t offered up anything at all in place of cutting this (which I know he doesn’t need to but I even asked about having some 4×6 of the engagment photos to bring with to the showers to show off and he said that he doesn’t offer that but could provide me 15 or so prints for $30 for that purpose, where as I was thinking I”m not doing the website so can’t I get some engagment shots, or even the digital files I could print myself?)
no prints inlcuded other then the books
it’s not that we can’t afford him, but that I don’t know that I love him for that price. so I don’t need to cut the buget, but for the price of him I could have gotten a lady from another part of the state whose photos I LOVED. where as this guy I just like.
budget is fine with him in it and everything else.
Post # 11
@continuumphotography: as of now, we are his only wedding on the books for this year. and I know this because he has told me this at our last meeting in march.:-/
we re-read th contact. we can end it and be out the retainer, I re read his packages, and if we stay with him it will be at the top package, as the others you don’t really save since he won’t give you a print disc and no print credits.
we are going to sleep on it and see what we end up doing… ugh
Post # 12
and I realise to some 2900 doesn’t seem like a lot, but remember I am in rurual iowa. where most other photogs in the area top out at 2,000 so he is top tier prices, but doesn’t do many weddings. honestly.
oy vey. I think I’m making it worse in my mind
Post # 13
I would definitely go with the photographer whose work you absolutely love. At any price, if you regret it in the end it’s not really worth what you paid. That is A LOT of product for the price which means his money is going into that not great equipment, workshops, running his business, etc. You wont want those things if you don’t like/love your photos. That also makes me nervous that he doesn’t shoot that many weddings. Weddings are a beast and good wedding photographers are tuned in so they capture all the details, moments, portraits throughout a whirlwind day.
Post # 14
Photography was one of the areas in which we splurged and we were happy with that decision. You can have excellent photos printed on professional paper at Mpix http://www.mpix.com/products/prints/ . They did an excellent job of printing both our wedding and engagement photos, and will reprint any photos if you have a problem with their prints. There were a few photos that needed special attention, and they reprinted them once we sent specific instructions as to how we wanted the colors adjusted.
So for me, whether or not he includes prints really woudln’t matter much, but it would be really important to me that your photographer is highly skilled.
Have you seen whole albums of his work from weddings? Have you spoken to any of his previous clients?
I’m sorry – I’m a bit too tired to accurately explain the whole wedding concept, but here is a quote that will hopefully clarify it:
“Ask to see a whole wedding – including ceremony and formals – from start to finish. Not just the album and not just the blog images. Any weekend warrior can shoot and make 10 killer images for their blog. But it’s the coverage of a whole wedding that makes the difference between ‘Uncle Bob’ and a professional photographer.” John Lyons Weddings | Windsor, Ontario
Post # 15
@professorbee: I’ve seen all his photos. from start to finish of more then one wedding he has shot. so I know that he has those killer 10 shots and then the rest are jsut normal every day shots. and I think that’s why I’m like hmmm I don’t know. beacuse of the normal every day shots I can get the newer girl that has shot as many weddings and is 1/3 the price. or I could get the lady I love, whose weddings start to finish ALL make me go “ohhhh me likey”
my Fiance and I talked about this last night. A lot. and decided to table it until I get past a few other things that I have going on right now.
Post # 16
@W292737: Well if it were me and I were going to make a switch, I woud do it as soon as possible since you have a summer date in 2013. Maybe inquire with the other two photographers you’re considering to make sure they have the date available. Also I wouldn’t recommend telling the other photographers that you’ve dropped the first one – they may find out anyway, but there is no need to go into that detail.