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    Lorienne    January 1, 2016   Los Angeles, CA

    Hello Hive!  We've recently seen some posts on the boards that have fallen into our "Self-Promotion Policy."  In PMing with these members, we think maybe our policy hasn't had visibility for some of our new members, so I thought I'd repost it for clarification.

    WEDDINGBEE'S SELF PROMOTION POLICY

    We don't allow Self promotion of any kind on the boards!

    1) No self-promotion of your blog or business or industry.  (This includes siglines & PMing our users.)

    2) No self-promotion of contests you (or your friend(s)) have entered.

    3) No self-promotion of surveys you've created or homework you need to do.

    4) No self-promotion of fundraisers you're heading.

    If you'd like to promote something, please post to our Classifieds instead.

    We've also decided to institute a broader policy against posting fundraisers in general.  While we are thrilled with the generosity and compassion present in our member base, we also feel that it can be a slippery slope.  And if there's one thing spammers and scammers know how to do, it's take advantage of our members.

    Of course we encourage everyone to continue on with their charitable endeavors!  If you would like to share them with the Hive, feel free to post in the Classifieds or host them on your private blog which you can post on our once-a-month Share Your Blog thread.

     
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    Mrs. Spring    May 10, 2009   California

    I think I violated this policy earlier this week, in this thread.  Can you let me know if this violates the policy?  I apologize in advance if it does.

     
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    Lorienne    January 1, 2016   Los Angeles, CA

    Hey Mrs. Spring, thanks for posting and asking.  

    Technically it does, because you are benefitting from the referral.  

    However if you were just sharing the link because it was a site you liked and thought others would enjoy as a resource, that wouldn't be a violation.  

    Hope that makes sense!  Smile

     
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    Mrs. Spring    May 10, 2009   California

    @Lorienne:  Thank you!  I'll be sure to just share the link from now on.  :)

     
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    yrret107    November 28, 2009   Seattle, WA; Married in West Chester, PA

    @Lorienne: This applies to Groupon, Living Social  and other similar deals too, right?

    The ones where you can post a link and if a certain amount of people click on it, you get your deal for free. 

    If you want to share a good deal, I believe you can post Groupon and living social deals, if you list the public site, like groupon.com/deal12345 that anyone going to groupon.com could see. 

     
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    Lillindy    September 2008   Bay Area, CA

    @yrret107: Yes it definitely applies to Groupon and other sites like it because if people use the referral link the person who posted it obviously benefits from others using it.  Thanks for asking! :)

     
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    MightySapphire      

    Also HauteLook, Gilt, ideeli, and sites like that.

    Basically any invite link is included in the policy.  The good thing is that all the "invite only" sites actually allow you to apply for membership.  I got in to all of them by 6am the next day!  So you can post that HauteLook is having a deal, but you can't post your referral url, just the frontpage url to the site.  :-)

     
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    serabell    May 22, 2010   Oregon

    Right above where you make a post it says:


    Vendors are allowed to comment, but please do not blatantly promote your company (or spam). Also, please avoid personal attacks and snarkiness...

    I think that if you changed it to where you could see the policy above the comment, that would help. When I first came here, I read "please do not promote your company" as please don't say "hey I'm a vendor, check out MYCOMPANY". I got a PM when I did something that was against policy, but I didn't mean to go against the rules & felt pretty bad. I think I wrote in a thread that the OP could PM me if they needed my help because they were kinda local & their vendor totally failed them. I think something like this may help?:

    Please review our self-promotion policy (which would be a link) before posting. Vendors are allowed to comment, but please do not blatantly promote your company (or spam). Also, please avoid personal attacks and snarkiness.

    OR

    Vendors are allowed to comment, but please do not blatantly promote your company (or spam). Please review our self-promotion policy (which would be a link). Also, please avoid personal attacks and snarkiness.

     
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    kirabee       Venice, CA

    Wow, I never knew the policy included Groupon, etc. referrals, that's taking it a little far, in my opinion, but I guess I understand.

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    Can someone explain why asking someone to take a survey you created as homework a no-no?  I completed a survey for someone recently, and I was happy to help out.  I would think weddingbee would be a great way to reach a lot of people?

     
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    Amaryllis    July 2, 2011  

    @heathaah: I think it's a principle issue. Why can someone ask for help with homework but not for help with something for their Etsy shop? I can't speak for the powers that be, but it does seem fair to me.

     
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    Lorienne    January 1, 2016   Los Angeles, CA

    @heathaah:

    Sad as it is to say, many times competitors or even the media will pose as a student to get data from an online Community.   We don't want to see our readers used in that manner, which is why we disallow those kinds of posts.

    Also wanted to add, it may sound uncharitable to be strict about some of these things, but unfortunately if you allow a little of it, before you know it a board can be overrun with those kinds of posts - which I think we all can agree would not be ideal.  Smile

     
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    @heathaah: Survey companies (once upon a time) used to spam the boards.  "Take a survey, win money!"  It became a big pain trying to figure out who were regular board users and who the spammers in disguise were.  In order to keep the boards spammer-free, we had to make a blanket rule.  It's also why we had to stop allowing blog links.

    Everytime our users find a way to reach out to each other, spammers figure out how to take advantage of it.  Sometimes it means we have to make broader policies to keep them out.  We don't like to do it, but it does help immensely in the effort to keep them away.

    Some users started to post "Help me with my homework" threads which then linked to surveys and other things.  So again, to keep it fair, we had to extend the policy.

     

    We love that the Hive is a tight-knit community of people who can depend on each other and ask each other questions!  Keep in mind that these policies only apply to the boards, and you're free to post under the Classified section if you want.

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    Oooohhh I see...I didn't even think of that.  Thank you for explaining.

     
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    Corykru    September 17, 2011   Pittsburgh, PA

    @heathaah: Thank you for asking that question! I was wondering the same thing.

    Thank you admin. and hostesses for explaining!

     
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    daydreamwanderer       DC

     A slight addendum to @MightySapphire:'s mention of these policies only covering the boards - they actually cover the boards, bios, DIY and Gallery sections. :)

     
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    FutureMrsMcDermott    February 2016  

    @serabell: I definitely agree with this. 

    When I joined WB, I kept reading threads that mentioned the "self promotion policy". To me, this was some airy, meaningless thing because I had no clue what they were referring to!!! You can't expect people to know this policy if it isn't posted clearly. I think adding it above the comment section would be superb!

     
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    Jenniphyr    February 2, 2013   Alberta, Canada

    @FutureMrsMcDermott: It's pretty easy to find if you actually look for it. That said, I agree that putting a link in would be good, as a lot more people would check it out. : )

     
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    elliestan    October 15, 2011   OK | TX

    i'm glad this is being revitalized, tbqh. it irks me when i see people post their referral links. i have those too, but i don't go around posting them everywhere!

     
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    serabell    May 22, 2010   Oregon

    @Jenniphyr: I looked for the self promotion link when I first joined here. I couldn't find it. Even looking now, I wouldn't have guessed it was somewhere on this page because it says "Legal & Policies". I don't usually click on the legal parts on websites because I've done a lot of reviewing of other websites & in my experience, legal has a million paragraphs of wording that's hard to sort through. I don't think I saw the word Policy after Legal because I read "legal" & went on to the next one. Usually policies are on the bottom or top of web pages so I wasn't quite sure where else to look. I did look just didn't see it.

     
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    armychica06    December 8, 2012   CT

    I just saw this and I think I violated it =(

    Can my post be moved? Or do I have to report a new one to classifieds

     
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    @armychica06: We can't move posts from the boards to the classifieds, unfortunately. Go ahead and repost in the classifieds though, and we'll delete your original post here on the boards!

     
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    struiling    September 10, 2011  

    I'm not sure if one of my posts got tagged as running afoul of this policy, but I had a post that was deleted in the last day or so. It didn't have any referral links (or any links at all), just looking for other local brides who would be interested in going in on a purchase together to save money. Didn't get a PM or anything.

     
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    lulucarmen    August 7, 2010   Saskatchewan

    So if someone needs help with homework (ie. essay topics, grammar, whatever), they are not allowed to ask? Sorry, this really doesn't seem like self promotion to me. Please clarify.

     
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    yrret107    November 28, 2009   Seattle, WA; Married in West Chester, PA

    @lulucarmen: I think it directed at surveys that are for homework.  I don't see a problem with asking about grammar problems and other stuff.  It's the links that we are mainly concerned about.  A mod can correct me if I'm wrong about this, though.

     
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    yrret107    November 28, 2009   Seattle, WA; Married in West Chester, PA

    @struiling: Do you know what your thread was called?  Did you check up at the top where it says "View your profile"?  All of the theads you created should be up there.  It might have been sorted into a different board, so if you knew you put it into the beehive and you go to look in beehive, it won't be in behive.  Because it was sorted into another board.  If your thread still doesn't come up, you can submit a support ticket in the Support board up at the top of the screen. One of the mods can look into it.

     
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    daydreamwanderer       DC

    @struiling: Anything involving selling something to or buying something from someone else here on WB needs to be done on the classifieds. That's what they're for!

     
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    One more thing, sorry to keep expounding on this!

    We don't allow signature lines in any form.  That includes signature lines added automatically from smartphone apps, personal sig lines, photos, and professional sig lines.  It's not so much about self-promotion as cluttering the look of our boards.

     
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    skyla.arts    May 31, 2009   Mountain View, CA

    quick question! what about a link to my blog post that has general information about skin care, makeup that will hopefully answer a lot of the questions people have? when people who post in the thread are not looking for a makeup artist/esthetician but need help choosing self-care products? would that constitute self-promotion too?  

     
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    Yes, sorry.  You are welcome to have the link in your personal profile, but you can't post it on the boards or direct someone to PM you for a link or anything like that.  If you have information to share we prefer that you copy and paste it here rather than link to another site.

     
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    skyla.arts    May 31, 2009   Mountain View, CA

    @MightySapphire:got it~ thanks for the clarification

     
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    perfectpumpkin    September 10, 2011   London UK

    hi,

     

    i created this post http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/uk-brides-can-i-ask-you-some-questions-for-a-uni-journalism-project

    and i think i've put it in the wrong area by accident... i didn't realise this 'self-promotion' rule.

    but i am a genuine student (promise!) and it's just a uni project i'm doing it for... what part of the boards does it belong?

    thanks!

     

     

     
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    Zinzerena    April 14, 2012   Virginia

    Ok, dumb question, but what about offering to help other bees with invite designs and stuff?  

    Not a "I'll make it and you buy it" scenario, but an honest "if you need help, I can help/will make it for you" type scenario (if that makes any sense).

    I've offered to help bees and put a general "willing to help anyone who wants/needs it" type comment up a few places.  (Admittedly, I've said I have a zazzle store but I've NEVER posted a link since it isn't wedding related!)

     
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    Jeannine @ Small Chic    June 1, 2012   Virginia

    Please advise!  I wrote a post about a dress I won after entering an essay contest.  I mentioned it in a thread and some bees wanted to hear the story/see the dress.  So, I worked on the post (I'm still new...I think it's the first thread I've ever started) and put it up in the dress forum. 

    It posted fine, as someone commented on it right away, but minutes later, the entire post was gone. 

     

    Did I violate the policy?  I wasn't benefiting from the post...I already won the contest and was just sharing the story.

     
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    sunshine4    January 10, 2016  

    ok

     
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    redheadem    September 30, 2012   NYC/MD

    Can we link to a friend's tutorial on her blog?

     
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    redheadem    September 30, 2012   NYC/MD

    ....No one knows?

     
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    hermitcrab    June 2010   NYC

    @redheadem: I believe that would be ok under this policy, but I am not 100% sure

     
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    CodijoC    September 15, 2012   MS

    I don't really get it. I've done some tutorials on my blog and I link people to it for help when they need in. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

     

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