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very interesting!! she is a great speaker!
i still don't know if it convinces me about gay marriage, but only because i really don't know the long term effects of children being raised by gay/lesbian couples. i think it should be okay though. i just don't really know because i don't personally know more than two kids raised by same-sex partners. and even they are still kids.
she is totally right about a lot of straight couples though. i mean i don't think it's wrong to spend a lot of money (as she kinda implied) as long as your committment is there. and i dont think i was conditioned to be a bride and plan a wedding, but i think we do as a society tend to think that single=lonely.
thanks for posting this!
Hey jslbride62610-
There are a lot of studies that show that kids raised by gay couples turn out just fine and are no more likely to be gay/straight then they would be if raised by straight couples. So even if you don't know 'em personally- they're out there!
Also I think it's really important to remember that marriage/children are two different issues. Straight couples get married and decide NOT to have children all the time and are still allowed the freedom to marry (and make that choice for themselves) and really that's all gay couples want as well. And some of us happen to want kids too! :)
Thanks for keeping an open mind and thinking about how you'd feel if the state or a bunch of folks you'd NEVER met told you that you couldn't get married to your fiance.
It'd be a bummer right?
just something to think about this sunday! :) cheers!
I take this issue very personally. I am in a bi-racial relationship. My FI is caucasian and I'm hispanic. It was once illegal for us to marry and I couldn't fathom the kind of emotions and anger I would feel. I have soo many gay and lesbian friends and I feel so hurt that certain people feel it is ok to deprive them of a union of their love. That is so downright unfair.
ms. awesome: that's really good to hear. i never thought too look it up, and kinda always thought that since i enjoyed having a dad and a mom, everyone should be entitled to that. you know, if you have a boy then he has his dad to look up to and same with a girl and her mom. but those are societal things i guess.
it just takes time. people are scared of the unknown. but i hope that the knowledge that i am learning SPREADS so that we can ease our fears. the more i talk to ladies like you, the more i start to budge from my original position of "no, no, no," - and i'm not sure why i started there in the first place. i guess i never thought enough about it.
i think most of us have gone through something (age, race, jealous friends, whatever) where people were less than supportive, and ive read quite a few rants about it. but what if it were so bad the legal system wouldnt let us marry? i just dont know. i have a feeling the day they were harsher on straight couples, there might be quite a few rants...
hey jslsbride-
thank you for being so willing to think about this some more and for being so honest with yourself and us! I think it's really hard and really important to put ourselves in others shoes before we judge/vote in a way that has a real and tangible effect on their lives and your response gives me some hope!
cheers
@MyraG - that is an awesome perspective as far as how things have changed (for the better) in history. I am in a bi-racial marriage and I am thankful that this never was brought up as an issue in this day and age. I am a firm believer that LOVE is LOVE!!
@MyraG, I was actually looking back at some Gallup polls. When Loving v. Virginia (the case that struck down anti-miscegenation laws) was decided, less than 20% of Americans approved of interracial marriages. Right now, 40% of Americans believe same-sex marriage should be legal. I suspect that a generation from now, same-sex marriages will achieve the acceptance that interracial marriages already have.
Even now, I can see progress. Yesterday, my car broke down while my wife was driving it. I called AAA and explained the situation. The AAA representative finished up the call with a cheerful, "Give my regards to the Mrs.!" I can't imagine that happening even 10 years ago.
2dBride, itt is absolutely imposible to try to prevent same sex marriage from happening. It is only a matter of time, it WILL happen, I just hope if happens soon. How awesome would it be to tell my children that in my lifetime I saw a new millenium, the inauguration of a black president, and was able to pass with my vote legislation to legalize same sex marriage.
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A friend of mine who is gay sent this to me today. I think she has a lot to say about same sex marriage (I've noticed it's a topic frequently brought up here on WB), but she also has something to say to straight couples regarding the importance of making a commitment to marry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCFFxidhcy0