Should I be able to see spots in my SI2 diamond??

posted 3 years ago in Rings
Post # 3
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459 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

I don’t know, but anyone who told me my diamond might have gotten switched while they were working on my ring would never see me again. That should not even be a reomte possibility.

Post # 4
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459 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

Just looked it up and found this:

Note: Any diamond from the SI2 clarity grade and up is considered eye clean, meaning that you should not be able to see any inclusions without magnification. If you can see an inclusion without magnification, it is not in the above grades.


So no, you shouldn’t be able to see anything.

Post # 5
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2013

Whoa, did you take it to Kay’s for the rhodium plating? And then they told you it might have been switched?! 

Many sites I visited said that S12 diamonds may have inclusions that are visible to the naked eye.

Post # 6
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: May 2013

@scottyco:  Even if it’s GIA certified SI2, you could see small inclusions with your eyes

Post # 7
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2014

You may be able to see inclusions with SI2.  Depending on who graded it, some si2s can hover near I1s.  These can be beatifully cut stones, no matter. 

I have a VS2 center and let me tell you I can see the tiny clear ‘indented natural’ and the other tiny clear ‘crystal’ if my eyeball is literally sitting right on the stone in bright natural indoor sunlight.  That probably is because I am aware of the gia plotting diagram and also because I am one of those extreme visual-detail ‘mappers’.  Like, I enjoy looking at the damn tiniest road markers on a large map type of thing.

I read somewhere that ‘eye clean’ is looking at a stone from the top and sides and not being able to discern any inclusions from no more than a six to eight inch distance or something.  The whole math thing of all this is just draining, lol.

 

Post # 8
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Bee Keeper

Yes, that’s normal.

I can even see the tiny spot in my VS1 diamond if I look hard enough. SI2 is much more visible than that. It is completely normal to be able to see some inclusions as you get familiar with the diamond.

Now, VVS range (GIA) or higher, and that would be an issue!

Post # 9
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Bee Keeper

BTW “eye clean” is not an official term. It is a marketing term, generally indicating that the lower clarity grade is due to clouds and/or feathers, which are less immediately visible (than, say, medium to large carbons) and instead have predominantly lightplay/foggy look/durability issues.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

With an SI2 diamond, yes…it’s possible to see spots with the naked eye. I can see them in mine also which is also an SI2 diamond. My question is this….if the ring was just sent in to be rhodium plated…why would they have to reset the stone?? I have heard of diamond swapping happening, and I would for sure look into that and make sure the diamonds match up correctly and you do have your correct stone.

Post # 11
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2012

I have an SI2 and I have a little black carbon spot I can see.  But your main issue is if the stone is yours

Post # 12
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Busy bee

@megan331979:   This. 

There’s no reason they should have needed to reset, or in any way move the diamond!  Totally unnecessary for replating.  

Post # 13
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

I have a GIA graded SI2 and I can see a teeny spot (from the side view only), so it’s definitely possible.

 

However, I had a prong on my ring fixed a few months ago, and when I got it back I could see one on the edge. Turns out that they took the stone out to fix the prong, then when they put it back in the prong was no longer covering it. They just reset it so the spot is under the prong again. So that possibility they gave you is definitely real.

ETA: I don’t have any idea if they have to take your stone out to replate.

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2014 - Dallas, TX

@MistySoda:  That’s actually not true. It is possible for spots to be seen on an SI2, especially if it’s an EGL.

Post # 15
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@scottyco:  yes SI diamonds are what they call “slightly included”, so you may have visible inclusions to the eye. It depends on the diamond though….. some are placed where the shape of the diamond hides it because of relections etc… (not all SI will have visible inclusions but it is to be expected)

when you get into the VS diamonds they are supposed to be visually safe, and can only see anything through a microscope.

We had a full diamond education session form the place we got my ring….Spence Diamonds. They have a ridiculously high quality of diamond though, so they actually dont carry any that you can see without a microscope.

Post # 16
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2014

@scottyco:  I have an SI diamond and I can see teeny black spots in it (so teeny that no one else would ever notice but I am obsessed and spend ages looking at it). I don’t think this means your stone has been switched, more likely just turned in the setting.

The inclusions on mine were so near the edge of the diamond that I got the jeweller to twist the stone round in the setting. Now one of the spots is hidden by a prong and the other is so close to the prong that you barely notice it.

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