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So I hate the fact that this is my first post even though I’ve been reading this board for over four months, but just wanted to get the opinions of other bees. My fiancé had his bachelor party in Vegas this past weekend with 12 other guys. He talked about how they went to different clubs and even went into details about the rooms, casino, and other non relevant information. At the end of the conversation his last sentence was that they went to a strip club, and that was it. In addition, he had mentioned that his friend in a drunken stupor (they all were) had to push off a girl while they were dancing since she tried kissing him. My response was that no girl just goes in for the kill unless the guy is sending vibes and that they were probably grinding since that is the type of dancing that goes on in clubs. (Which can only lead me to believe that he was doing the same.)
Little does he know that one of the guys that went told his gf EVERYTHING, who then told me. My fiancé failed to mention the fact that at the strip club they bought him around $500 worth of lap dances. The guy also said that my fiancé and another guy were the only two of the group that were getting hit on left and right by women. That is why I would have to believe that he wasn’t just sitting there by himself at the club.
I am never one to get jealous but I hate to admit that this time I am. Do you think I have a right to be? Share your thoughts ladies!
I woudn't worry too much over it. Guys at bachelor parties get a lot of attention, as do girls at bachelorette parties. It doesn't sound as though your FI actively did anything bad, unless you guys previously discussed no strip clubs, no lap dances and no getting hit on?
I'd say it's normal to feel jealous, but try to let it go. Does the lap dance thing bother you? Keep in mind that if they went to a high-end place, lap dances are expensive, so it might not be as many as you'd think. (Also, keep in mind that guys exaggerate).
A bachelor at his own party is bound to attract attention, so yes, women probably were hitting on him. But it's not like he did anything about it, right? Maybe think of it as, even on a night when he could've gotten away with anything, with women hitting on him left and right, he stayed faithful? I don't know; I totally get why you would feel jealous and upset, but give it a few days and I'm sure you'll feel better. Maybe take a day to hang out with your own friends, do something nice for yourself, and don't think about wedding planning. Good luck!
I don't think you ever need to 'have a right' to be jealous...sometimes we all feel a little insecure and we're supposed to feel safe enough with our partners to share that, whether it makes sense to anyone else or not... and for me I totally understand how you're feeling - I would definitely be upset if I got those details from someone else after hubby had the chance to tell me himself. I would probably feel that he left out those details on purpose, and I know that would upset me, mostly because I'd be hurt that he felt he had to leave them out (either because he wouldn't trust me not to lose it, or because he felt guilty... the latter would definitely worry me more).
My point is that you're entitled to feel however you feel and I think the best route is to just explain to him that it hurt hearing those things from someone else when he could have just told you himself. If you're not normally a jealous person, and you're obviously ok with him going to strip clubs, then he had no reason to not tell you those things, right? If you're bothered by it, you should talk to him about it... and again I don't think you have to justify feeling bothered by something, how you feel is how you feel and part of being a couple is feeling safe enough to tell your partner that, even if it's silly or unreasoned or completely understandable (which, IMO, it is for you in this case!).
Good luck, and I hope you guys can talk it over and laugh about it later :) For what it's worth, I'd insist that the only fair thing to do would be a $500 shopping spree for me to make up for it, lol :)
I know you will worry about it no matter what we say, and I would too, but from what you stated, it doesn't seem like your FI did anything wrong per se. Just keep in mind that those girls at the clubs are payed to pay attention to whoever has the money, and if the guys were paying for lap dances for him, that is what they were doing. It is just a job for them; nothing more.
Those girls know bachelors at their bachelor parties are good for one thing: $$$$$. Don't stress too much about it! I know you don't like the idea of women rubbing up on your guy (I wouldn't either) but I'm sure it was totally harmless and nothing to worry about too much.
I would just try to let it go. I know that it could be tough, but I have friends who have been married for 4 years and she still brings up his bachelor party when they fight. It's awful.
A bachelor party in Vegas tends to lead to things like clubs, strip clubs and the like. While it may bother me just a tad, I would have to remember that its a bachelor party and I would have expected in to have gone this way.
Try not to let it bother or worry you.....i know the mind can be a tricky thing.....
I don't know. I hate the whole strip club thing because I feel like it is a double standard (in the majority of relationships). It's ok for a guy to go to a strip club and get a lap dance, but if the girl did this, I think most guys would not be cool with it.
Anyway, that aside, I agree with what other posters said. It's normal to be jealous, but try to let it go. If this type of thing comes up again (a friend's bach party for example) try to be clear about your expectations. If you aren't ok with your guy getting lap dances, you have to talk about it beforehand. But I probably wouldn't bring it up unless it comes up again.
Do you have a right to be jealous? sure of course, no one likes to hear about that stuff. Should you hold onto it for very long? No cause it'll cause problems. He probably didn't tell you because he didn't want to make you mad. I wouldn't be too upset. The girls there usually don't want any of the guys that go there, they just want the money.
I think it all depends on what the (hate using this word, but don't know what else is better) "rules" of your relationship are. You know, what kind of comfort guidelines have you given each other. For example, I'm okay with my fiance going to a strip club for his bachelor party if he wants to because he's never gone during the course of our relationship, and I 100% trust him, but neither of us would be okay with any "private" interactions. Backroom lap dances, etc. I know some other girls, however (and to be honest, MYSELF in past relationships), would NEVER be okay with anything like that, and that's totally normal and okay as well!
So did you guys talk about any guidelines for this trip ahead of time? What about in general? As a couple, are you not okay with each other dancing with other people? I think jealousy totally depends on the context of your relationship. If you feel like he did something he knew would make you uncomfortable, then I think your feelings are totally justified.
I'd say it's not a big deal, just let it go. It was his bachelor party, not just a regular friday night at the strip club. Strippers are there to make money, not to try to steal your guy away.
We had really never spoken about it. In prior relationships I would even go to the strip clubs with ex's and watch while they got lap dances, but for some reason the mere thought of a woman grinding on my future hubby annoys me.
I had a wild side to me prior to meeting my fiance (a large part that he has no idea about). Before I found out about the Vegas trip, I was planning to have a calm party for myself but afterwards, now I feel as if he has given me a free pass to go balls to the wall crazy at my own. I kind of see it as if he was able to go dirty dance with other women and get lap dances from strippers than I should allowed to do the same.If he was able to get it out of his system than why shouldn't I?
What do you girls think? Would you do the same?
I don't understand why you are mad at him. He was very up front about what went on during his trip and now you are going to take the word of some gossipy girlfriend over his? Who know what her guy told her to ease any tensions between the two of them. She didn't even say that he did anything that crazy, so I'm kind of at a loss here. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas (and it doesn't sound like much happened), so just let it go. You can't punish him for breaking rules that neither of you knew existed.
Also, your "tit-for-tat" mentality is not a very healthy one.
If you didn't discuss it prior to the bachelor party, then he had no way of knowing that this type of behavior would upset you, espeically if he knew you used to go to strip clubs with your ex. So you have every right to be jealous, but I think it would be unfair to hold it against him. You can't be okay with it beforehand and then get angry after the fact, because in that case you set him up to fail.
I think your new plan sounds a little immature, but that may be the way I am reading it. If you want to have this wild, raunchy evening to be passive aggressive or for some kind of vengeance, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. The weeks before your wedding are not good times to trade petty jabs. Also, something tells me that if you were this upset about your FH getting lap dances, you will probably feel insecure/guilty/dirty if you go out and do the same thing.
I say this as someone who does not believe in strip clubs in my relationship. However, I recognize that the bounds of every relationship are different and just as valid. The most important thing is to discuss what they are on and be on the same page BEFORE someone gets angry and vengeful.
@JuneBlushingBride: honey, i am a stripper. and believe me, when we're at work, it's not about having fun or picking up on guys. it's about making $$$. period. so if they were "all over him" or whatever, it was to squeez the cash out of him. and it sounds like they did. i wouldn't worry.
I would let this go simply because there is nothing you can do about it. He cant go back and do anything differently. Holding onto it will only cause problems in your relationship. Also, I agree that the strippers (and women in general)are especially into guys in a bachelor party. Strippers want money and single women like the thrill maybe? idk. Either way, he did not hide the fact that he went to the strip club from you and its possible he didnt go into detail about what went on simply because he may have though simply saying a strip club was involved was enough, or because he did not think it appropriate to go into detail about the shenanigans that went on. Its really harmless imo if no "rules" were set prior to his bach party.
As far as you doing the same, I would say do what you want to do but do not do it simply because he had a wild night out. Do what is going to give you the most fun for YOU. know what I mean? good luck!
No way strippers are just nasty and I wouldn't want their nastiness rubbing up on my future husband I would be pissed too!
Although you didn't discuss ground rules before he went to Vegas, He probably thought it was fine. I wouldn't retaliate just because you didn't tell him beforehand that that kind of stuff bothers you.
@muckmoo1: Thats kind of a hurtful thing to say especially since we just heard from one of our own bees and she was just trying to reasure the OP. :/
@Impatiently waiting: Love it! :)
I wouldn't worry about it and I wouldn't let this determine how you spend your bach party. Decide on what you want to do and do it for yourself, if you plan a "I can do it too party" you might be more concerned about showing him that you can do too than just having a great time with your girls.
@muckmoo1: really?
"No way strippers are just nasty and I wouldn't want their nastiness rubbing up on my future husband".
and our own bee, @Impatiently waiting, just mentioned she was a stripper. Kind of an unlady like thing to do and tasteless thing to say. :(
@JuneBlushingBride: Ugh. Hearing things from friends is the worst. Have you discussed that with FI yet? When I think about FI's bachelor party I try to think its his last run before being married for...well, ever. So when I look at the big picture it isn't so bad, right now? Yeah it hurts. I'm sorry, try not to think about it and let it pass.
I would be jealous too. But just remind yourself that it's a bachelor party and those kinds of things go on. The fact that he really didn't tell you about the details maybe means that he's embarrassed/feels bad. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
I wouldn't like hearing that all of that went down, but I'd try to get over it and move on since there is nothing you can do now, you know? But I definitely can see why you have these feelings! I would feel the same way.
@muckmoo1: I agree that was pretty rude.
@JuneBlushingBride: While I don't agree w/ your reasoning to have a crazy bachelorette party - it shouldn't be a "he did it, so I'm going to do it" - you are totally free to have a crazy party (I did) but it was not as a way of "getting back."
If you initially wanted a calm party, stick with it, if you want to change it, do it.
i dunno, i wouldn't try to go "balls to the wall" at your bachelorette party just because he did so at his bachelor party.
i agree with @Sunshining - i think if you go out and do something similar you are going to regret it because it isn't going to erase what has already happened. i'm not giving him a free pass because i would be very upset if my FI did those things (that type of behavior is not okay on any other day of the year - why would it be at his bachelor party?) but i am saying that it's not a very smart thing to do to to try to get revenge at this point.
I can definitely see why you would feel this way about his bachelor party, especially since you had to hear about the details from someone else. I'm sorry. But I wouldn't recommend you follow suit. Don't behave towards your future hubby out of spite. You won't feel any better or be happy about it later.
@muckmoo1: I know you may not be able to see it, but what you said was very hurtful and rude.
@Lilubird: you ladies are so funny. i really am a stripper. would the term exotic dancer make you feel any better? honey, i was simply trying to make her feel better by letting her know the girls at the club weren't really trying to pick up on her bf, just do their job. i know that most women don't like strippers and def don't like their men being around strippers. i used to feel the same way before i started dancing. also, it's really dissapointing to all you women knocking strippers as if you know any thing about them. as if you can make huge generali8zations about any group of people. that's just biased and thoughtless. TONS of men and women go to strip clubs all the time to be entertained yet society still labels the job as taboo.almost evey movie star has nude pics out of themselves, what is the difference? there isn't one. it's so hypocritical.
@Impatiently waiting: I'm a little confused by your post. One bee said some rude things about strippers, but everyone after that commented about how rude she was being and defending you.
can we agree to disagree? yes, i agree what was said was hurtful...but that isnt what this post is about....
@JuneBlushingBride: I would just talk to him about how you are feeling. But I wouldn't hold it against him, and I would NOT go 'balls to the wall' and have a night like his. If his night made you this uncomfortable, think about how your night out would make him feel.
@Impatiently waiting: Ugh I'm sorry :-/ I really don't think this is the place to be knocking anyone's profession or judging anyone...
c'mon bee's ...
OP, I wouldn't worry about this at all. There's absolutely NOTHING to be jealous of, it's just boys at a strip club throwing money around, no feelings are involved what so ever.
@muckmoo1: Have a little respect and tact. These people are still human beings trying to make a living just like the rest of us. Keep your judgements to yourself.
calling someone a bitch and classless is also hurtful.
can we get back to the OP's comments/post/situation?
@Impatiently waiting: ps- i really don't care what you ladies think about my job. i'm ballin' and you're not! haha! i'm half kidding. it's just sad to me to hear people act ignorant or biased towards any group of people. i'm bisexual too ladies! i'm sure you have lot's of predudice opinions about that! i am an exotic dancer and i didn't write that to offend anybody's delicate senses. i DO NOT get paid to have any type of sexual relations with the men where i work, and i don't. i am also a recovering addict who pulled myself out of the gutter and have 7 years clean. i love my family and are very close with them, and have come leaps and bounds in building my self esteem, and becoming the woman i want to be. but you don't care about any of that. you think you can just slap labels on people without knowing them. this is only to the people who were judging me. thank you to those who didn't.
@MissBoPeep: i know that was very nice. and i wrote thanx for that on my last post
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