Should I Get Paid/A Raise?

posted 2 years ago in Career
Post # 2
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2015

I have no real advice, as I’m not in your type of working environment, but I wanted to comment anyway.

I think you are completely justified in expecting a raise of some sort, at least. My friend works in medical billing. Her company paid for outside college courses, with a contract that said, upon completion she would receive a substantial raise. She does have to do the course work on her own time, but she does it because of the reward when she’s done and because they foot the bill. Its worth it in her case. 

I really hope someone here gives you good advice. It sounds like you sacrifice a lot for your job, and I feel you should be compensated accordingly. Good luck!

Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2016

on the one hand, I am strongly in favour of professional development. On the other hand, I am not sure this is directly related to your job or going to benefit you in any way. 

 

I would sit down with both Jim and your supervisor, with a copy of your job description an go over the things which you are supposed to be able to do but are blocked from. Figure out how this is in the best interests of the company.

I would also expect either a raise or more paid time for this course, particularly if it is longer than about a week. It is asking a lot more than usual from your personal time.

Post # 4
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

megz06:  I think getting paid for work done at home or outside of normal work hours really only depends upon one thing…are you salaried? Or am hourly employee? If you are salaried, then I think there is an expectation that you will have to do additional work at home sometimes. I, and everyone else I know who is a salaried professional, frequently take work home. Unfortunately, I often also have to do work on weekends, vacations, etc. However, if you are a non-exempt employee, I think it is fair to assume that your work ends when you are off the clock. If you are non-exempt, you technically probably should get paid for any mandatory training. However, I guess that would also be open to interpretation depending upin whether your employer is requiring this training, or simply offering it to you. Personally, I would go through the training, get my certification and then use that as leverage for a salary increase. Or, if a raise was refused, I would use the certification to improve my resume and help me find a better paying job, where my improved skill set woul be appreciated. 

Post # 5
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Newbee
  • Wedding: April 2015

I used to work in an accounting firm and they paid for classes but there was no automatic raise once you were licensed. You were, however, more likely to be promoted. Licenses open doors, at this job or your next one. 

Post # 6
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2015

 

megz06:  You don’t need him to teach you a class in that. Microsoft offers online education for A+. Ditch the douche and get certified. No one can complain then if that’s what they want you to have. I’m not sure about the access issues – that’s just a dick move your supervisor should be dealing with. Also, I’m not sure you’ll get a whole lot of a “raise” for A+ cert. It’s a fairly basic certification that most IT techs should have going in to it. We would not get paid to go to the classes for it but would be reimbursed for testing costs, should we pass. I work in an IT shop too and I’m just speaking from experience and what I’ve seen around me. Do they maybe want you to take the networking cert too? That also can be done via Microsoft I believe. 

Post # 7
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: May 2009

The big question here is this:  Are you in an FLSA Exempt or Non-Exempt classification?  If you are in an FLSA Exempt job classification, the company does not need to compensate you for any time that you spend working over and above your regular work schedule.

Throughout my career, I spent countless hours working far beyond my regular work day, taking work home, and having to come in on weekends to fulfill the duties of my job. As an FLSA Exempt employee, I did not earn any additional pay for this. However, some employers did offer compensatory time for some of the hours.

Given your current situation, if you are exempt from overtime, I would take the class, do the homework, maintain a positive attitude, and see how things unfold after you complete the course.  

Post # 8
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2015

If he’s the power mongerer you say he is, he has probably presented the idea to your boss that you are not capable of the job at hand. He boss then told him to bring you up to speed and offered to pay for it.

I wouldn’t be asking for a raise, esp after maternity leave. I just don’t think it’s smart given these dynamics. im  not saying thats right, but life isn’t fair. The cert will add to your resume, but PP says it’s basic. 

maybe you need your boss to describe the job responsibilities so you can assess whether they expect whoever does your job to have this level of knowledge in order to do the job. If this isn’t something you want to spend time on, maybe you need to talk to personnel re moving to another department Where your skills can be utilized better. 

Post # 9
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2015

megz06: I think you should take the certifications and go elsewhere. There’s a huge shortage of DevOps engineers and lots of tech companies paying big bucks to those who are certified and can learn things on their own. 

I agree with pp — don’t expect a raise and don’t expect ot if you’re exempt. Change employers. The market is super hot if you’re on the supply side. 

Post # 11
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2015

megz06:  thanks for the clarification. Let me clarify, I am not saying you don’t deserve a raise, I’m saying I wouldn’t ask for one right now based on what you’ve told us. 

Maybe I’m cynical, but that dude seems like he’s trying to set you up. 

By your skills, I was referring to your additional skills you mentioned, particularly with coworkers. getting along with people is a huge asset. 

Post # 12
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: May 2009

Since you are a non-exempt employee and are eligible for overtime pay, then it’s possible that your boss may not be able to require you to perform this “homework” during non-work hours.  However, since I am not an HR practitioner or an employment law specialist, I do not know this for sure. I would suggest that you place a call to your hospital’s human resources department to ask for clarification regarding whether required course homework associated with required work training courses should be considered overtime hours for an employee in your job classification.

Post # 14
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

As someone who has been in the IT field for about 8 years (and am currently a IT Network/Phone Admin) I would be looking for a new job. For starters, I’ve worked with a “Jim” before. Typically they are control freaks because they are more afraid of those “under” them learning more than them about the network. I put under in quotes as it sounds like he is not your supervisor. They will normally do what they can to keep those below them down so that they always seem to be the “smarter” and “harder working” individual.

The only way to actually grow in this field and learn is by working hands on equipment (I know Server 03/08/12/12R2, Cisco/Extreme switches, PBX and voip (telephony), Mac OS Server and other stuff that just isn’t seeming important to me right now) I’ve learned all of those by working on them in a production enviornment (nothing like taking the entire network down to teach you what not to do next time).

Honestly I wouldn’t waste my time on the Comp TIA A+. The test is a joke and I’ve never met someone in the IT field that wouldn’t roll their eyes at that cert. If you want a good cert I would look at the MCSE for servers or the CCNA for switching. The tests are much more difficult but carry a lot more weight in the field.

Interestingly enough, and having worked with someone like Jim, he’s probably using this class he is teaching as a way to push either just you out or both of you out because the next time you say anything he can be like well I held this class for them but she just didn’t get it or learn the material and throw his hands in the air and then you look like the bad guy. 

If I were in your situation I would go to my supervisor and lay out the fact that Jim has single handedly revoked multiple priviledges to the network that is making it where I am unable to complete my daily job tasks. I would point out that you had these rights to the network prior to your maternity leave and at this time Jim has not presented any evidence that there was any reason to downgrade your network priviledges. 

For the tl;dr, this guy is setting you up to be labeled that you are unable to do your job, he sole goal is more than likely to get you fired. I would look for a new job.

Post # 15
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2015

Keeblerelf928:  this is exactly what I suspected as well with Jim. I think he’s using this whole thing as a set up. Great suggestion re telling her boss about Jim  cutting her off and making it impossible to do her job. 

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