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Should I leave my PhD program for a job?

posted 3 months ago in Career
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  • poll: Should I leave my PhD Program?
    Yes! Run and don't look back : (46 votes)
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    Maybe, but only if it pays over $X (specify in comments below) : (0 votes)
    See if you can take a leave of absence or delay to get through comp exams : (16 votes)
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    No, you only have 2.5 years and funding so stick it out. : (16 votes)
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    justelope    December 30, 2011  

    So, I am a (miserable) PhD student about to start the comp exams process.  I am fully funded, so while I have no student loan debt, I make a stipend that would qualify me for food stamps.  I am on track and on time, but my peers are busy publishing and love their work and I feel like I am "behind" when it comes to developing my skills toward a career they want, but I don't. 

    I did not know what I was getting into in this program.  I realize I don't like research, I am not super passionate about my dissertation topic, or the type of research I would have to do to study it in a way my department would find acceptable.

    Yesterday, I got a call out of the blue for a fabulous job that is the type of career I want.  

    Do I take it?

    Try to take a leave of absence and come back in 9 months?

    Stay and finish my qualifying exams for six months so that the only thing I need to finish is the diss?

    I have a 20K fellowship for next year (starting in fall) that would allow me to take a job just like this, while still having a path forward to finish my PhD.  But the job will likley be gone, and these positions are quite hard to get.  I feel like I am only getting the PhD to "hedge my bets" and keep doors open for future opportunities.  But I am also having to turn down opportunities now, and I worry that with a PhD I will be limiting the kinds of jobs I can get (that both employers and I feel are worth someone going to school for that long).

    I absolutely do not want to be a Professor, and I am not interested in teaching.

    What should I do?! 

     

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    Sounds like this job would be a better career choice for you than the PhD would be (at least for the type of career you are interested in).

    Based on what you've told us, I'd say stop the PhD and take the job.

     
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    Take The Reins    August 11, 2012   Canada

    My opinion...take the job.  You don't like your program, are not passionate about it etc.  You are taking funding from someone who might really want to BE there, doing what you are not intrested in doing.

    A career you hate will serve no purpose to your life.  If the offer is something that can support, fulfill and satisfy your needs, I think you'd be crazy not to take it. 

     
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    TheFutureMcBride    August 2010   Virginia

    Three of my friends just finished their PhDs. They now are making more money than I am and I worked the whole time they were in school. They also all said "if you don't question yourself multiple times every semester, you're doing something wrong." My husband just started his PhD and it's really hard for him because it's so much time, we're broke, and the research is hard. I say STAY IN!

     
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    nicolethegrrr8    June 18, 2011   Charleston, SC

    Sounds like your program is similar to mine in terms of career track/publishing/funding. I've felt like you have at times (and so have all of my friends in my program, so it's definitely normal to feel that way sometimes) but am sticking it out because I know that I'll be able to have more job options that I could enjoy with my PhD compared to a MS. Is there any *specific* career that you would need the PhD for versus just your Masters? If so, I'd maybe stick it out, but if not, just go for the job if that would make you happier. I don't think the leave of absence will work out, honestly - everyone who's done that in my program never returned.

     
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    mwitter80    December 11, 2010   Connecticut

    @justelope:  Don't quit!!

    I did and haven't gone back 5 years later ugh.

     
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    theredhead    January 4, 2014   Orlando, Florida

    I guess it depends on what your program is. For me, a PhD would allow me to make twice as much (if not more) money as I can with a masters degree so I plan to do whatever it takes to finish up grad school and earn that PhD even though most days I absolutely want to quit. If you can honestly tell yourself that you won't regret dropping out and you think you will be happy in this new job then I guess you should go for it. I am very much an advocate for finishing something that you started though, especially something like a PhD. You've come this far, whats another 2 year or so? BUT if you aren't happy and won't be happy in that field then you should take the path that is going to make you the happiest! 

     

     
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    MrsWrangler    October 2, 2010   Florida

    What program?

     
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    mousegirl    May 20, 2011   New Mexico/wedding in Asheville NC

    @justelope:  You aren't happy with the research and you don't want the type of job that you would be qualified for with the PhD. It might not hurt to ask about the leave of absence, just to keep the PhD door open a little longer, but based on what you wrote, I think you should take the job. I have a PhD and I'm making about as much teaching as you do with your fellowship. You always have the option to go back to school one day.

     
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    justelope    December 30, 2011  

    Thanks for the advice everyone!  I am still really conflicted on it, but I will interview and explore my options regarding the leave option.  

    It's a social science PhD, so nothing is certain regarding my earning power with the MA vs. the PhD.  

    I likely won't go back to school since I am already in my 30s.  Part of what makes it so hard to decide!

     
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    justelope    December 30, 2011  

    And ironically, someone just announced they were leaving the program today.  Something in the water? 

     
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    brenda.m.fields    March 3, 2012   Fort Lauderdale (wedding) & Gainesville (home)

    It sounds like a PhD for you is a path towards a job and not something you want for its own sake, so since a job has landed in your lap, why take the long way to get to the same goal?

    I'm in a field in which I can't get a job without a PhD, but if that weren't the case... I don't know.

     
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    Jamieg    October 27, 2012   San Antonio, TX

    I think you should stay at your program, or finish the semester and then take a leave of absence. What happens if you go to this job and end up hating it, for one reason or another? I mean full funding is a pretty sweet deal. Is this a job that you would stay at for the rest of your life? If not, would having a PhD provide better job opportunities? Good luck!

     
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    bearlove    July 1, 2012  

    @justelope:  Can I ask which of the social sciences? And how you got a call out of the blue for job like that? The second question I ask just because it seems really unusual in the social sciences to get a job offer/interview for a full time job like that without the PhD. Usually things like that happen when its a short-term offer, or its a fairly new company--regardless, it is definitely something that makes me think you should do a LOT of background research on this opportunity.

    That said...I am also getting a PhD, I'm in my 4th year, and can't wait to escape academia and get a real career. However, in my program (social psych and neuroscience although I'd rather take a job using the social psych degree and not the neuro part), you get a lot more power from the PhD than the MA/MS even when you go into gov/industry.  Better salary, more job security, more likely to end up in a supervisory position if that's what you want down the road, etc.

    These things obviously are not always easy to talk over with your advisor, so I'd try to seek out people in your field who have gone non-academic and see their opinions.

     
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    brikee    November 12, 2011  

    You should find out about the leave of absence and then pursue the job. Always good to have a backup plan! It's also good to do things in life where if you had to look back, you don't want to look back and regret something you should have done. 

    With that said, it doesn't sound like you are happy in the PhD program and if this job will propel you in a positive direction, then I'd say go for it. But make sure you tie up any loose ends!

     
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    MrsTCB    August 10, 2012  

    interview and get the job offer first....

    my opinion: free education is a gift.

    having a phD will make you really special in the marketplace and if you're already getting offers w/just your masters, imagine in a couple years when you actually have your phD.

    you dont need to teach, but you can be a specialist in your field and that'll make you worth some big bucks. i know as a student someone offering you a salary now seems exciting, but if it's only 2.5 years i'd suck it up and finish up. there will definitely be jobs for you once you finish up. especially if you're getting offers out of nowhere w/just your masters! 

    plus you can be Doctor Justelope.

     
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    cbgg      

    If you can truely say to yourself that your PhD is not your passion (and you aren't just bailing on hard work) your life is too short to waste away doing something you don't really care about.  Another opportunity has come along - go for it and don't look back.  You will be so much more successful in life doing something you deeply care about.  

     
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    justelope    December 30, 2011  

    Thanks ladies for all the feedback.  I am still so torn, but I interview this week.  I am leaning toward finishing my comp exams and coming on with them in the fall since I think some additional staff turnover is likely (I know many of the people who work there currently).  I could take the job as an ABD, and would have two years to finish the diss (which I can do, even if I am working since I work now and my diss would be relevant to the job).

    @bearlove I got the call because of consulting work I do on the side. They have been wanting to hire me, but didn't know I was not done.  The job doesn't require a PhD, but the MA will help me.  It isn't the company I consult for currently, but they know of the work I have been doing.

    For anyone not planning on going academic route, work on the side in your desired field.  I would be screwed had I not kept my side work up since so many places want work experience, not just education. 

     I will def post an update when I have one.

     

    Thank you everyone!

     

     

     
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    bearlove    July 1, 2012  

    @justelope:  Ah you're so lucky! We have to agree not to do side work to keep our stipends. I've been trying to network like crazy in my quest to escape the ivory tower (while simultaneously keeping this secret from my advisor because leaving academia makes you a pariah around here)

     
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    cbee    July 26, 2010  

    100% stay in!  Stick it out, it will likely benefit you more in the long run.  This choice/ dilemma is one each of us has to make. 

     
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    slicey19      

    I found this only now but was having similar thoughts a few months ago myself. Wondering what you decided...

     
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    csdncer2013    June 2013   SoCal

    I wonder what the OP chose too!  The OP definitely sounded like she was miserable being in the program.

    I would have tried to stay and finish.  I think it's harder to take a break, then go back and finish (no matter what I told myself). But if I were as miserable like the OP and had a great job opportunity come up, I'm not sure what I'd probably do ultimately...

     
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    justelope    December 30, 2011  

    Hey everyone. So I turned down the job and decided to stay.  It was a really difficult decision, but ultimately I think I made the right choice. 

    I won't say that I am 100% happy about my program, but my advisor and I talked and she is on board with my dissertation topic and I am moving forward.  Ultimately, the PhD is going to help me, so it is worth it for me to stay. And I really want to finish working through some projects I know I would not finish without the structure of the program. We also want to start a family, and doing that in my program is a lot more flexible than rushing out into a new job.  So I am moving forward and trying to keep my eye on the prize.

    Thank you everyone for all the great feedback.  This was such a tough decision, and as usual the ladies of the bee were so helpful at such an important juncture.

     

     

     
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    mrs.folks.to.be    May 2012   NYC

    Congratulations!!!!!!! It will all be worth it in the end!!!!!

     
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    Juliepants    June 2, 2012   Ontario

    @justelope:  Congrats on making a decision that works best for you and your family!

     

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