Post # 1
This morning on the radio they were talking about nanny cams. The topic came up because of a creeper who was just busted recording women in the bathroom at his workplace. The hosts were debating whether or not the use of nanny cams should be disclosed so Darling Husband and I started to discuss it as well. While I can see both sides, I don’t know which would be worse.
My thoughts: I think that they should be disclosed but not necessarily told where they’re hidden. Obviously the use of these cameras would only be appropriate in common areas and the childs room, leaving bathrooms and, if live in, the nannys room, completely off limits. If I was being recorded, I would want to know. Even something as trivial as picking a wedgie or rippin’ a fart could be embarrassing if caught on tape. On the other hand, if something was happening and the nanny knew there were cameras, she/he could easily avoid the areas that are under surveillance assuming that the bathrooms would be free and clear.
DH’s thoughts: He felt that telling the nanny or sitter that there are cameras defeats the purpose of having them. If parents are trying to catch their childs caretaker doing something immoral then they’ll have kind of a hard time doing that if they know they’re being watched.
Legally speaking, I thought that the cameras would have to be disclosed since the person in question has a right to know that they’re being recorded but I don’t know if that’s the law everywhere (or even here, for that matter). It seems like a slippery slope.
While we’re at it (and I know we’ve had this discussion before), what’s your take on nanny cams? Would you use them in your home? If so, would you need a reason to install the cameras or would you just do it for peace of mind?
Post # 3
I probably should answer my own question… I would use a nanny cam if I had a reason for concern. I don’t think I’d install them just for the hell of it since I like to think that I’ll fully trust those who will watch my hypothetical child but I guess you never know. As for disclosing, I don’t know. Darling Husband and I don’t agree so I guess we’ll cross that bridge if/when we get to it.
Post # 4
@UpstateCait: I think the real question is, would you ever take the time to watch the tapes? And how long would you keep the recordings for?
Post # 5
I agree with you.
If I were to use a nanny cam the purpose would be to PREVENT something from happening not catch them in the act. Because at that point harm would already have happened to my child!
I think they have the right to know they are being watched. But if you tell them where then if they were to do something bad they will just do it somewhere the nanny cam can’t see. But if they don’t know where it is they will assume every angle is being watched.
Post # 6
At “work”, you can be recorded, you don’t need to be told it’s happening. As long as the cameras are not in dressing rooms or bathrooms, it’s legal. The nanny is coming into YOUR home, where YOU are the employer and home owner. No different than cameras at non-home work settings.
Disclosing even the use, let alone the location, of nanny cams defeats the purpose and if the nanny is going to do something bad, they’ll just learn to hide it better.
Post # 7
I agree with you… they should be disclosed, but not told where they are. I would have been MORTIFIED as a teenager to find out that someone recorded me picking my nose or farting, or adjusting a wedgie (stuff that gross as it is, we all do at some point when we think we’re alone) while watching TV after the kids went to bed… but at the same time I’d have no problem knowing the parents wanted to record us to keep their kids safe.
Post # 8
I haven’t given this topic much thought, but I know if I were a babysitter, I would definitely want to know if I’m being recorded. Like you said, some things I do when I think nobody is watching are embarrassing. However, I also believe that you shouldn’t hire someone you can’t trust. When I do have children, I’ll probably have family members babysit, so I can’t imagine needing to record them.
Post # 9
@asscherlover: I think if there was a reason for concern I’d watch the tapes but I couldn’t see myself spending hours each night going through footage of my kid playing and napping just for the hell of it. That’s why I wouldn’t install the cameras unless I thought something was up. As for how long I’d keep the recordings for, no clue. I guess until the storage was maxed out? *shrugs*
Post # 10
- Wedding: November 2011 - Florida Aquarium
I was a nanny, and they were disclosed. The child had been very sick for much of her 2 years in existence, and the family had these cameras, one on each floor, that provided a live stream with no audio (or at least that’s what i was told :)). Their original use was so that long distance family could see the little girl, and it transitioned to a nanny cam. It was helpful, though, because this little girl had terrible asthma and often needed a nebulizer treatment. But, the cam helped me show the mom, and we determined together if she did (not every time, just when I wasn’t sure).
Now, there were times she’d watch it and call me because I wasn’t playing with her daughter. Why wasn’t I playing with her? Because she asked for alone time. Was I in the same room watching her? Of course.
And there were others when she would see her daughter throw a fit and me calmly send her to time out. I was praised for those.
Now, with my future child, will I have one? I’m not sure. Knowing the camera was there didn’t change my actions. I think they sort of protect the folks on both sides of the camera. But… no. I don’t think I would, unless it were a unique situation as I was in. I would trust my sitter.
Post # 11
I heard about that guy. what a scum bag.
If I had just hired someone and planned on using them, Yes, but I wouldn’t tell them where they were.
If I felt that something fishy was going on and wanted to check, then no I wouldn’t tell them.
Certain areas are totally off limits though. Bathrooms, nanny’s bedroom. That’s invasion of privacy.
When it sounded like my grandmother was going to have to go into a nursing home, I absolutely would have put one in her room without telling the staff. I have heard too many stories of elder abuse and I would want to make sure she was being cared for.
Post # 12
I don’t think I would ever use one unless I had a suspicion, and in that case I wouldn’t tell the person because it would defeat the purpose. I think that’s why it’s important to interview nannies, that way you can get a feel for their personality. If I hire someone to watch my child for long periods of time I’d want to trust them and not have to worry about monitoring them.
Now, if I was in @Mrs. Gremmlin:‘s situation with a sick child, that may be different. To have a child with special needs is difficult and I’d want to be able to make sure they were being properly cared for and attended to!
Post # 13
@abbyful: That may be true where you are, but where I live your employer is required to tell you if you are being recorded.
Post # 14
I have a nanny cam right now for our dog. I like to be able to look in on her and see how she’s doing throughout the day. She has some anxiety problems and in the past had seizures due to it, so when she’s having a bad day I like to see how she’s doing. We do have a dog walker, and I was really happy when he noticed it right off the bat, because I didn’t want it to be a secret, because that felt kind of icky to me. The purpose wasn’t to try to watch him or his interactions with the dog.
So I guess the purpose of nanny cams is a little different, because they are intended to check up on that person with your child. But I don’t see myself as being the type to hide a nanny cam and secretly watch the footage every night. I would like the option that I have now, to look in for a minute and see how things are going. But only in limited (and common) areas.
Post # 15
First off – I would never use a nanny cam. If I didn’t trust the person in my home, I wouldn’t be leaving my child with them.
But, I do think if nanny cams are being used, the nanny should be told (but not told where they are located).
Post # 16
@MissBoPeep: Yea, if I remember correctly I think I had to sign something when I started acknowledgeing that there were cameras around my office. Not like I didn’t know anyway since they’re not hidden but I do seem to recall there being some kind of documentation on it.
@Mrs. Gremmlin: Makes sense in that situation though it would drive me crazy to have that mother monitor my every move. I wouldn’t have lasted long if she was questioning why I wasn’t playing with her kid all the time.
@MissCallieJean: There must be something in the water up here. Too many dirtbags in a 50 mile radius.
@Future MrsB: We almost set one up when we went on our Honeymoon to monitor the cat. He has anxiety issues when we’re gone for an extended period of time and makes himself sick (we came back from our Honeymoon to him having pancreatitis). We didn’t end up doing it due to laziness but the next time we go away I think we will. If nothing else, just to make sure he’s still alive and destroying our stuff as usual. 🙂