posted 3 years ago in Military
Post # 3
1208 posts
Bumble bee

Ho.Ly.Shit. W.T.F!?

That is all. 

May add more when I’m less FLOORED!

Post # 4
2915 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2013 - Wynn Las Vegas

WOW! I don’t really have any advice, but I really hope you can talk her out of this. 

Post # 5
42157 posts
Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

@annb9:  Is it possible that your sister who has a psychotic illness, lied??? Part of her illness likely includes prevaricating to explain gaps in time and behavior and to justify her planned actions -going off her meds.

I highly doubt that any recruiter would encourage her to go off her meds , knowing that the result would be a deterioration of her mental condition.

Post # 6
900 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2014

@annb9:  Recruiters are often the devil.

The shit they tell potential candidates is ridiculous.  Of course they’re going to tell people certain things, they’re recruiters, they want the credit for recruiting people so crappy advice or lying about what the position actually is, is often a lie.

My cousin signed up for the Navy so he could get put through med school (his dad, my uncle did the exact same thing when he was younger.) and the recruiter told my cousin he wouldn’t have to go on a ship.  Ummmmm – that’s what the Navy is.  


Well of course my uncle rolled his eyes and told his son he made a stupid move.  My cousin maintained that if he was a good enough student they would keep him on a landbase.  Not the case – now his time is up and you guessed it – he has to be on a ship and his wife is not happy.


Post # 7
1333 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

Yeah I think you should report the recruiter. It sounds like she is schizophrenic, which usually is not a violent condition but who knows what the voices will tell her when she is under stress. Telling someone who hears voices to stop taking her meds so that she can get a highly stressful job handling weapons is so incredibly irresponsible, I’m floored. I’d also tell your parents about her plan so they can be vigilant. I’m sorry you and your sis are going through this.

Post # 9
2657 posts
Sugar bee

Holy crap.  I am so sorry you are going through this.  Sadly, this is not the first story I’ve heard of recruiters pulling crap like this.  Had a friend who went into the army and was told to lie about asthma prescriptions because “inhalers weren’t used in the military anyway”.  Yeah, that didn’t work out too well in basic training and he got discharged halfway through.  What that recruiter is doing is highly unethical, and it could jeopardize the safety of other service members if your sister is allowed to join.  You should report that guy.  I’m not sure who you would talk to about that…hopefully some military bees will know.

Post # 11
487 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

She may not have told him what exactly her condition was. The recruiter might think she has ADHD or something, in which case I could see him telling her to stop taking the meds. He probably didn’t know how severe her issue is.


Post # 12
3769 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 1999

I would be livid too. I would contact the recruiter and who ever is above them. I doubt either one of them would get too worked up about it, but I would feel like someone needs to say something.

Post # 13
4540 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: May 2014 - Royalton White Sands

My FH has severe ankle problems stemming from being born with club foot (his feet turned the wrong way around) and the surgery he had as a baby. At some point, he approached a recruiter to ask if it was possible for him to enlist, and the recruiter just told him to lie about how bad it is. Umm… no. He’s usually limping by the end of a long work day (and he doesn’t do anything close to manual labor). FH eventually realized that he’d never make it through boot camp, and didn’t bother attempting to enlist.

I’ve also heard of people lying about being on ADD meds, but to lie about anti-psychotic drugs??? WTF. 


Post # 14
1793 posts
Buzzing bee

Hi – I was full time active duty with the National Guard for 26 years.  It was my everyday job, not just the traditional weekend deal.

I retired out of the Recruiting Command but I was not a recruiter.  I am NOT excusing the recruiter whatsoever, please believe that, but it is all about the numbers.  Every single week some recruiter was being hauled in in front of the Command Sergeant Major and the Commander to explain why he/she didn’t meet mission (quota) and they were threatened with their jobs every single week.  That is the nature of recruiting.  After awhile enduring that, you do what you have to do to keep your paycheck and pay your mortgage.  There are recruiters who will not have you lie, but there are certainly quite a number who will tell you to do it.

Here is what you MUST do:  report the recruiter to his/her commander.  Do not tell your sister you did so and see if she says anything else about this recruiter.  Your sister should never ever be in the military.  You DO realize we give those recruits real weapons with real bullets while in training, right?  You can’t learn to shoot a target with blanks.  Someone who hears voices should not be handed a firearm and bullets.

What if those voices get louder?  What if they start telling her to shoot others in her platoon?  Or herself?  I am here to tell you that the ONLY reason she needs to be off those meds for 40 days is so they won’t show up in her system during the physical.  Comprehensive alcohol and drug testing is done during the physical.

Her condition needs to be reported to the recruiter’s superiors.  She has no business in the military – she is a danger to everyone else and to herself.

She needs help and you sound like an awesome sister with a good head on your shoulders.  This is a time for tough love.  If I were in your shoes I would talk to my parents and, together, we would be visiting that recruiter and his supervisor and busting out the plans to lie.

Do not let her join, no matter what.

Post # 15
305 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

Yes recruiters do this all the time and would be given the benefit of the doubt if any trouble comes up. Your sister, once it was discovered because it obviously would, would be adminstartively separated quickly. 

Post # 16
305 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

With little to no benefits due to the circumstances of her lying to join. 

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