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I don't think it's presumptious. That's how the royal family works. It's always been that way.
i think it is only fitting that kate got that ring. im sure harry doesnt mind
William chose this ring out of his mom' possessions and harry chose something else and this was long ago. so the ring was already his to give
Umm, as a younger sibling, if he just got first dibs I'd be pretty heartbroken. But if they worked it out between themselves, then good for them. :)
This is how it worked in my FI's family actually. My FBIL gave their grandmother's ring to someone some years ago. It didn't work out though and as a result, his mom decided that my FI could have the diamond reset for me. I don't think it should naturally go to the first born, I just think that's how it usually works out. I guess in my head it'd be the first to get engaged/want to use the ring. Or if there's a daughter I think she should have the option to inherit it (but then which daughter gets the ring if there are multiple daughters will be an issue).
Hmm, somehow I think Harry is used to the firstborn unfairness with the line to the throne thing and all. But I think it's a little typical for the first born to get things like this, at least from what I've seen.
I believe elliestan is correct, from what I've read anyway. Harry actually picked that ring to keep out of his mom's possessions, but he was happy to give it to William for Kate to wear. If Harry was only happy to give his brother the ring, I think that makes it even more special and touching.
Harry actually picked that ring to keep out of his mom's possessions, but he was happy to give it to William
i didnt know that! goes to show i dont read gossip mags - off to tell my friend/bride, it might make her less tense about it :)
Um, there was actually an interview with both William and Harry about this. They both agreed whoever got married first would get to use it. I think it's a bit presumptuous of you to immediately assume that they did not discuss or agree on it. Why do you automatically assume WIlliam took it away from Harry?
in royal families rthe first born is heir and the second born is spare. they are there just incase something happens to the first born. its only fitting that william get the ring. doesn't the same thing happen in regular life? first born gets handexd down family herlooms?
No? I think it's silly to assume this is some kind of scandal. Isn't it completely possible they worked this out before?
I think it's a bit presumptuous of you to immediately
ummm okkkkkkkkkkkkk..... i guess you didnt read the bit where i said i have no feelings either way
Yeah, I heard each one of them got the chance to pick something out from her collection to keep after their mother died. Harry chose her e-ring and William took her watch. I believe Harry is the one who offered the ring back to William when he was going to propose to Kate. I think that is such a cute and nice thing to do.
sorry for all the spelling errors. my phone sucks on this site.
@eloping: Isn't it weird that she's so worked up about this? Is she the second born in her family? :)
Sounds like they worked it out between themselves. That's sweet. = )
@jayce: heheeheh ;-) shes really quite put out by it all - i think she is just having a frustrating day and grasped onto this for some strange reason but ive since given her chocolate so hopefully she is feeling better now
:)
I'm from the UK where I've grown up with the royal family. I think its fine, it just seems the right thing for them to do. He is the one whos engaged after all. I'm excited! I can't wait to see the wedding
I honestly don't think its uncommon at all. There are certain rights to go along with being the first born. As the first born granddaughter in my family, i will be inheriting my grandmother's wedding ring(s). I'm sure it could have gone to the first born grandson, but I assume they want to keep it in the family. I think its different when something has been willed to a particular person rather than the first born calling dibs on something, though.
Clearly William and Harry had a different arrangement, but if not, I don't think it would have been uncommon to the ring to be passed down to the eldest.
I heard somewhere (not sure where, so don't quote me), but when Princess Diana became engaged, she was given her choice of the family jewels to choose from. She chose the biggest most sparkly one (who wouldn't) which was the sapphire. I wasn't aware the ring had any special signifcance beyond that.
Knowing how the world felt about Princess Diana, if I were Kate, I wouldn't want the reminder of what standard I was being held to on my finger every day.
It's not like there aren't other jewels for Harry to use. He may want a new one created for when he settles down.
it is what it is...my sister (first born out 5 kids, 3 girls) got my grandmothers beautiful 2ct ring i wasnt born when she died so no hard feelings, i was named after her :)
I assumed that was just how it was done (always). Historically, it seems that the first born (hehe, me!) gets perhaps more/better heirlooms. Not saying it's always true, especially now things seem pretty evenly split (in regular life at least).
yeah it's called primogeniture ... the "spares" are left to duke it out in the world.
That's an interesting thought that the firstborns get better stuff... lol, it's just me a my big bro but I've gotten most of the important heirloom items. He has zero interest in family history, so unless it's cold hard cash, he could care less. That being said, he's only 22 so he may change later on.
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but what about Harry??? im pretty sure there are lots of shiney things in the family gem box for when Harry chooses a wife but do you think it was a bit presumptious that the first born gets to claim moms e-ring??
i have no feelings either way but my friend (who im MOH for) had pretty strong feelings about it today for some reason so im asking WDTBT?? (what do the bees think)