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I am starting a new one of these because I am in need of a vent and the other ones are too long!
A little background for the bee’s I prefer yellow gold. Jared stocks mostly white and it can take up to 6 months for yellow gold rings to come in. And if the local store doesn’t carry a ring you like they can get it from another store to try on!
Dear Stupid Girl at Jareds,
You are so numb I don’t even understand how you got a job in the first place! We went in to look at a ring and asked if you could check if it came in yellow gold and to get a sample ring sent to your store. You did not order us a sample ring. You were supposed to call me on Sunday and let me know, you never did. I called on Tuesday to check the status and someone told me it did not come in yellow gold. Friday YOU call me and tell me it does in fact come in yellow gold. I ask you to order me a sample from another store again and you ask ME for the sku #! HELLO! You just called me to tell me this ring comes in don’t you have the sku?! If not look it up! You are at the store I am not!
I had to wait until FH got home to make him call back because I cannot handle talking to you any longer. FH asked you again does it come in yellow gold we are confused can you make up your mind. He asks you to order a sample (from another store) for us to see and you take all his CC and try to charge us for the yellow gold! That is not what we are asking we have explained this to you many times we want a SAMPLE ring! We know this is how it is normally done because this is what we have done in the past! We do not want to order the ring without seeing it first! Especially because I need the ring by the end of October and like you said the yellow won’t be in until mid September what happens if I don’t like it!? Now because you didn’t order the sample when we asked it is not going to be here until mid August and if we order it in yellow it will take even longer to come in.
Thanks a lot!
Dear Future Father-In-Law,
Please stop giving us a hard time about how much more our wedding costs than your other two sons' weddings. They live and got married in the rural midwest where the cost of living is very low. We live and are getting married in Philadelphia, where everything is more expensive. They both got married on family property for free. We don't have family with wedding-worthy property out here, so we had to rent a venue.
We appreciate you helping us out financially, but we're not asking you to contribute any more to our wedding because it's pricier. You're giving us the same amount you gave your other two sons, so what business is it of yours how much it costs?
-D
Dear Friend,
I am soooo incredibly tired of seeing on facebook every single flippin day that you so love your husband and miss him. I get it, I love my husband and miss him too, but if I want him to know that, I TELL HIM IN PERSON or I send him an email, or I post on his actual page...I do not put it on my status update 2 and 3 times a day. And what's the point of putting it on your status update if you husband DOESN"T EVEN HAVE FACEBOOK??? It seems like you are more concerened with the world knowing you love your husband than your actual husband knowing that you do.
As for the reason I have been avoiding you...well, I am so sick and tired of hearing you complain about your life every...single...day. In the beginning, I was so sympathetic to you and your situation and tried to be the best friend I could. However, when all I hear about from you every day is negativity and drama, it tends to pull me down. I am so burnt out on hearing about your problems, that when I found out your car broke down, I didn't even care. That's horrible of me, but that's how burnt out I am about hearing about you you you. I have my own lists of issues that I'm dealing with. Granted, you never hear about them because I keep them to myself and don't complain.
The other day you mentioned some of your friends kept bailing on plans with you...I'm starting to wonder if you are Debbie Downer with them all of the time too.
Sincerely,
I Can't Take Any More Of Your Complaining
Holy smokes...where did that vent come from? I feel better though! Maybe it will help me to be more patient with her the next time I get her list of things gone wrong for the day. sigh....
Dear Sweet Boyfriend,
If anything, I thought forcing you to sit through half an episode of 16 and Pregnant with me would make you not want to have kids any time soon. It's done the opposite. All you've talked about is kids and how you want to make them for the past 12 hours. I want to have kids soon too.....but......
PUT A F&$@ING RING ON IT FIRST ;)
Love,
Your Dear Girlfriend
@JsDragonfly: You stole the words right out of my mouth. Stop updating your FB status 2093809275 times a day. No one cares!
I have someone on my FB who fights with their wife ON FB! I mean really?!
Dear Mother-In-Law,
Please stop telling me that i need to lose weight for the wedding. i am not overweight, am comfotable with my body and apparently so is your son when he;s grabbing my ass everyday. I dont care that you say your trying to look out for me. Look out for yourself.
I cant take the badgering anymore. Please stop of i will stop tyou in a rude manner.
Sincerly,
Tired of your crap.
I feel much better!!!!
Oh my goodness, @JsDragonfly- I feel like you and I have a mutual friend! Lol. Literally 3 x's a day she's saying something like, "I miss my sailor". I want to be like, "Ya know what! He's not at sea, he's probably at a Motel 8 just to get away from you, you're too clingy and mopey! Jeez!".
If I could say anything to someone, it'd be to my ex-bestfriend (I hate that term, its really juvenile), and cc'ed to my other one. Here's the background. My best friends from 7th-college are V and A. We did everything together, our families included. I began dating a guy (now my husband) who happens to be African American. Turns out that V and her family are obviously very racist because she literally stopped speaking to me. Crazy. Then, a few years later A started dating V's brother. She and I remained friends but when for 'some' reason she stopped talking to me too. When they got engaged, I wasn't in the wedding, I wasn't invited to the shower, my invite to the wedding mysteriously got 'lost in the mail'. I sent her an email to tell her how hurt I was, no response.
So if I could say something now, now that it's been so many years I'd say:
Dear V,
I'd first like to say that I hope you're doing well. I've never wished a bad thing upon you. I write this letter to get closure. The way our friendship ended left me very hurt, but more so confused. Could you and your family be that close minded? I see no other reason for 'disowning' me. I have never done anything to you. I was always there for you. I have dreams about what it'd be like to run into you. And what it'd be like to meet your son and husband, to ask your family why you feel its ok to be this way. I'm upset with myself for wanting to hear the answers. And for not completely moving on. And I'm disgusted that you're ok with it all. Pass this message along to A. To be honest, I feel even more betrayed by her. She isn't like this, it seems like she just married into an intolerant family. But just know that my husband is a wonderful man, that we're doing well and that I'm happy knowing I have not limited myself because of what other people might think.
That's deep huh? Sorry it was so long. I'm sure I've written a post about it before. I do still think about it all the time. How can people go from going on vacation together to ignoring emails and literally never speaking to someone again. They give people from my backround a bad name. What a shame.
Dear FSIL,
I know that no one wants to sit through a ridiculously long wedding. I get it. So when I told you we were having a ceremony instead of a mass and you thanked the Lord it wouldn't be SO LONG, I wanted to smack you in the mouth. If you can't handle spending an hour at my wedding, please don't come. I don't like you anyway.
and just because it's been one of those weeks...
Dear Friend,
Your best friends father just passed unexpectedly and in an attempt to show you care you make a mention of it in your FB status. Sweet, okay. But when the same status also includes "can't wait to get on the boat this weekend and PARRRTAYYYYY!!!! !!!! <3 <3 <3" you look tasteless and inconsiderate. Please get it together.
Dear Boss,
I deserve a raise! The one question you asked me during my interview was what my salary requirement was. Did you meet it? No. As soon as I started did you quickly pile on responsibilities that were not included in the job description? Yes. If you increase someone's responsibilities, then you increase their PAY! Stop telling me to get you files every two seconds. You know where the file cabinet is where everything is placed in alphabetical order. Get off your lazy butt, walk in there, and pull the file yourself instead of me dropping everything I'm doing multiple times a day to do stupid, unnecessary things for you.
Sincerely,
Your annoyed employee
Dear "Friend"
Why must you be so hungry for attention? I just don't understand.
Sincerly,
Your very confused Friend.
Dear Sick Co-Worker,
Please stop snorting up your snot every 30 seconds. There are tissues for a reason...so blow your nose. Not to mention, if you are really THAT sick, that you can't stop coughing and sniffing for 3 hours straight, go home. Don't get me sick.
@JsDragonfly: ahahahaha, we must have a mutual friend ;-) lol
This girl I went to high school just got back together with an ex a few weeks ago and since then literally EVERY SINGLE POST she's made (yes, I was bored one night and tested my theory, and it is every single post!) contains one or more of the following phrases:
I love my man
I love my man sooooooo much
I'm so lucky to have my man
I miss my man
I love you babe!
Every. Single. Post. - Multiple posts a day
Vomit.
@JessicaL: Oh my gosh...10 bazillion facebook updates are sooooo freakin irritating. Unless it's the people that update a lot, but make me laugh when they do. This gal just drives me batty! lol
@jennifer_espos...Sheesh. Annoying isn't it? I mean, I feel like such a jerk when I get irritated, because he is deployed, and speaking from experience, I know how hard it is...but it was the constant whining before he got deployed that got me to the burnt out stage. She would whine and complain about missing him when he was in the field for only a few days....I seriously wanted to just yell at her considering I hadn't seen my husband in months...not days. lol
It's so tempting to post several long diatribes in this thread but I'm paranoid that the people they'd be about would find them. Ah well, it's entertaining to read yours, at least!
Dear Mom,
I really dont care that you are pissed I didnt invite all of our 239842973 relatives to the wedding. I wanted a small wedding and I barely know those folks. My wedding is not the time for you to impress everyone you know - its about me and my FH. I also dont care that you think I am keeping alot of the planning stuff away from you - I'm not, but when you told my aunt she could bring her kids to our adult only wedding then lied to me about it on several occasions, yeah if I WASNT keeping stuff from you I sure as heck am now.
I also dont apprieciate that you complain you have nothing to do, but every task I delegate to you, you screw up or dont get done at all.
If you cant say something nice dont say anything at all. At this point I just want to say, seriously just show up and be quiet. I am so sick of the drama.
Love,
Your very stressed out and disgusted daughter.
Dear little brother,
The world does not revolve around you. Please stop throwing hissy fits every time you are asked to do anything. You are not a diva and you do Not "do what you want". Seriously, grow up, no one finds you funny, just selfish and sad. I am not a bridezilla, why must you be a bro-zilla?
Love,
Your disgusted sister
ugh...I feel better!
Dear annoying person who won't go away,
I've never had to bite my tongue so much as I have when you're around. I don't get you. You are so immature but you're not "young." I have no idea why you hang out with us. We're of 100% different faiths, political spectrums, and personalities. And that would by fine, if you didn't throw your opposite beliefs in our face and then get mad when we all talk about everyone else's MUTUAL ones. You always facebook about how you "surf" but you've yet to stand up on a wave. You invite yourself to things your not invited to and your desperation to "collect" friends is making people not like you. I. Do. Not. get. you! Every time you start to gain points you do something stupid and put your foot in your mouth again. I seriously don't understand why you hang out with us. You stand for everything "we" don't and vice versa. If you hate our views so much, why do you want to be around us. And if you ARE going to hang around us, realize you are the ONLY person with a differing view.
And what's with the demands. Get up from the freaking table and get your own water. And if someone is offering around drinks don't demand they pay for your alcohol unless offered. Stop hitting on any male that you see and then complain about how "your too young to settle down and be married and how gross marriage is" to people that are only 2 years older than you and are either engaged or married.
Sincerely,
Your soon to be wrecking ball.
Dear Ex-Best friend,
I'm sorry that your relationship wasn't going great with your boyfriend, but i am deeply hurt you couldn't even be happy for me when i got engaged. I'm hurt that after all these years together, you thought maybe our engagement was a JOKE and that you didn't return any of my calls/messages/texts telling you my happy news.
I know your busy and we played alot of phone tag, but in the end when you did not return my phone message, thats why i didn't bother to invite you and i have no regrets.
good luck on your engagement to your boyfriend, i'm sure both of you will need it.
Sincerely,
Your Ex-friend
Mom...don't worry, it's not in the mailbox and it ain't coming. You can give me the same thing for my wedding I gave you when you ran off and eloped with your boyfriend in March and didn't tell anybody...nuthin!
I don't miss your drama, I don't miss the pain you caused sis and I, and I don't miss how you literally stole over 250k from my sister and I this spring. Above all I am in shock still how you behaved when our grandfather was still alive.
I'm not changing my mind. Not today, not ever. What's done is done and I still cannot understand how the heck I am related to you after seeing your complete lack of decency and caring. My father would be embarassed and saddened if he were here to see how you've turned out.
Also don't send distant relatives to facebook friend me when I haven't seen them in years. My life is off limit to you and sis feels the same way. It's kinda pathetic when you have to send a second or third cousin to try to friend me on facebook just to find out what is going on in my life.
On our wedding day, I will miss my dad, and my grandparents. You could have been there, and could have chosen to be part of our family, but you instead saddened us with the most selfish of actions doing far more than just stealing our inheritance and running off to marry your boyfriend. You took away you being a mom forever to us.
@2PeasinaPod: Hahahaha this is hilarious!! I feel as if we work in the same office. I actually ask these individuals if I can get a tissue for them, and all I get in return is some lame excuse about allergies.
I will be the matron of honor at my Best Friend's wedding next year. There will also be a maid of honor. We know eachother but are not super close. She has gone completely MOH-zilla!
Dear MOH-Zilla,
This is not your wedding and not your engagement party and not your bachelorette party! Stop trying to take control and make all the decisions for the bride and stop shutting down ideas from the other MOH who is actually engaged and about to get married. Wait your turn instead of hijacking someone elses wedding! Calm down and he will put a ring on it soon enough.
Love,
Your co- and more sane MOH.
God that felt good. Thank you ladies!
Dear sellers-
Thanks for not accepting our offer. We really enjoyed the counter offer minus the provisions you x'd out, though. If you have nothing to hide, why won't you sign it?
Dear DH-
I love you, so remember that. But you are in serious denial. The world does not stop when we visit your family. They have lives all on their own and don't seem to really care to see you when we do visit them. Actually their lives seem much busier than normal when we schedule a visit and they never have time to come visit us. So when you act excited that you are going to do this and that with your family, guess what? You always end up getting disappointed in the end and I'm really tired of seeing it and hearing your plans that will get squashed on.
Dear Ex-Best Friend,
Wow its been 3 years since we have spoken. I was so deeply hurt when we stopped being friends. You found new friends that I was not fond of and because of them we are no longer friends. I always think about you and our friendship. It meant so much to me and I felt you were like the sister I never had. I couldn't find myself to change and do bad things just to hang up with you and your new friends. I live the life I always knew I wanted now because I made good choices. I think if you and I had remain friends what kind of person I would be and I thank the lord for bringing you in my life and taking you out when he did. I see your facebook profile as a suggested friend and I am happy to say THANK GOODNESS WE ARENT FRIENDS ANYMORE! I am happy that I am not LIKE You in any way and I do not surround myself with people like you. I feel very saddened for you and when I picture us seeing each other again it is at your funeral. It is very sad to say that but that is what will happen to you if you dont stop this path you are going down. DRUGS are making you look older and doing horrible things to your body. Also, your current "work" is tasteless and you should seriously reconsider sliding down that pole and maybe sliding into rehab. Its crazy how two people that seem so much a like 4 years ago are nothing alike now. I want to give you a brief description of whats been going on in my life so you don't have to ASK anyone or snope around for it.
My son is sooooo happy, healthy and the smartest kid I know. He will grow up to be JUST LIKE ME and I am so proud of him and everything he does.
My future husband is the greatest man on Earth (besides my dad of course) and does anything and everything to make me happy. He takes care of me and OUR son and would let nothing come between us.
We own a home, we both work and have the strongest bond.
I love all of my friends & family and I am so in love with life right now. =)
I hope you make good choices from now on but no one can force you.
We could never be friends again but it was nice updating you and telling you how I feel.
Good bye!
From the most happiest gal =) ME!
I am very cranky today, so I have to get in on this!
Dear Worst Planned Parenthood Doctor Ever-
I have been using PP Clinics since I was 17 and I can truly, honestly say you are THE worst doc I have ever had the misforunte to come across in my many visits over the years. I am sick. Something is Wrong. So I came in for a pregnancy test and, if it was negative, to talk to a doctor about WTF could possibly be wrong with me. You basically refused to talk to me after telling me I'm not pregnant and I should be relieved (I'd rather be pregnant then not know what is wrong with me!). When I asked what could be going on or if you had any clue at all, you said you wouldn't talk to me about it 'because that's not what I came in for' and told me to go to an expensive specialist. When I explained my lack of health insurance AND money, you shrugged, basically said you didn't care, and told me to get out. There was NO ONE else waiting for services! Now I'm left with an even higher level of anxiety, continuing pain/discomfort, continuing pregnancy symptoms, and a feeling of desperation. I needed help and you threw me out. Fuck you.
-rabbit
Dear MIL,
It saddens me to no end that you refused to take photos with us on our wedding day. You refused your eldest child and only son the joy of having his mother in his photos of his wedding. When my family were taking photos with me and him he was crying inside. All he spoke about on the car ride over there was how upset he was that you didn't even pretend to be happy for us. I know, you miss your husband, we all do, he was a wonderful man, but if he saw your attitude and actions towards your son these last few months I think he would be appalled.
And how dare you tell my nervous and excited groom on the morning of his wedding day that it's customary for the parents of the groom to get flowers? Where was this input when we were ordering the flowers?! You knew that you were not getting flowers. You just wanted to cause a fuss on your son's big day. You do not get my husband's buttonhole, who the heck do you think you are demanding to have it? If you had asked nicely I might have considered it.
You have no idea how much you hurt your son every day. You have no idea how upset he gets when he talks to me about you because he's embarrassed. He just wants you to be happy for him and yet you make him do the most ridiculous and stupid things. You are no longer the centre of his world, his work is, his friends are and his wife is. That is called growing up. He's not 5 anymore, stop treating him like he is. I will cut you out of my life if you continue to be rude and crass and evil to him. He deserves better.
Sincerely,
DIL.
Dear Facebook "Friend",
Please stop posting updates every hour about your son. No one cares as evidenced by no comments or 'likes' on any of your posts. And it's REALLY annoying that you've now entered him in a Parents Magazine competition and now all the posts are "VOTE FOR DANIEL!!!!". Ugh.
Dear Sick Coworker,
Go HOME!!! SERIOUSLY!!!!
Dear Creepy SEcurity Guy in my Building,
Please stop staring at me and shouting across the elevator banks to get my attention EVERY. TIME. I go downstairs. It is so fucking creepy and annoying. Clearly, I"m married and off limits, even if I wasn't I wouldn't go near you. The two weeks you were on vacation were the best two work weeks of my life.
Dear US Government,
Please stop taking more and more $ out of my paycheck so other people can sit around on their fat lazy asses all day. I work 40 hours a week and can barely scrape enough $ together to keep up buying work clothes. Now that I'm married, I see dollar signs where you used to have eyes and I know we are going to pay through the nose this year, somehow. How someone like me is EVER supposed to buy real estate, I have no idea.
Dear Management Company,
You are the worst. The front door has been broken for 6 months and we have mold in our bedroom which you wipe away instead of cleaning out. You do everything on the cheap and charge us top dollar for rent. And you make it really hard to pay rent, must be mailed to a PO box by the 1st of the month with a special slip that's really easy to lose.
Sincerely,
Modern Daisy
Dear FFIL,
Please, stop looking at my boobs. I know they're big; they have been that way since I was 15. You creep me and your other son's wife out. It's not a compliment (as you stated to your sons) and it is not endearing. It makes you a creeper and pervert. You are 40 years older than me...gross.
Both of your sons have talked to you about this, and how inappropriate you are. So seriously, grow the *uck up and look at your wife.
Sincerely-
FDIL
Dear Mom-
I have 79 days until the wedding. Stop telling me that i have plenty of time. Please go out and look for something to wear so you look/feel good on my wedding day and aren't rushed into buying something because you have ran out of time. And I will send my invitations out 8 weeks from the wedding if I want to- I do NOT think 6 weeks is "plenty"
love, your daughter
Dear Overbearing Mom,
i have already chosen my bridemaids and fi has already chosen his groomsmen... NO my brother does not get to be in the wedding party just bc he is my brother! i cannot force fi to ask him to be in the wedding. and NO his gf does not get to be in the wedding party just bc she is my brothers gf. please stop trying to make me feel bad for not having him in the wedding party! mind your own business! and dont bring it up again or i will scream!
love
ever so annoyed daughter
Dear State of NJ,
Thanks for making it almost impossible to get a teaching job in your state. I have six years of teaching experience and tend to get screwed in every position because of politics. Thankfully there are zero jobs out there and if there are any in NJ I will be one of 500 applicants they will consider. They may be interviewing people they know...hmm most likely. Oh well I guess that 3.8 I got in college and years of experience were wasted. Looks like I"m going to have to move out of your state and away from my family and friends just so I can get a job. Thanks!
Sincerely,
Frustrated teacher
Dear XXX,
Thanks for planning you wedding right around mine. Just so thoughtful and considerate. We chose our date because it meant something to us not like you guys. I know wedding is not a competition but you purposely and deliberately plan your wedding right around mine. I waited 3 and half yr to get engaged and then over a yr and half to get married but you and fiance are so selfish. Good luck on your marriage to a girl who is embarassed to wear her ring and is not even ready to get married (sarcastic).
I love this thread and I cannot believe I missed the first and second iterations of it. I am having a pretty good week this week so I can't chime in but next week will be a different story.
dear a**hole guest,
i dont think you should be going out to eat or anywhere out in public if you hate the world so much. there is no reason to treat your server like crap. i really wish i could smack you for being so rude... but i would lose my job, and lucky for you, i need my job. you should really just go crawl back under the rock you came out from under... i hate people like you... and maybe you forget... but i am serving you your food. just some 'food for thought'
sincerely
disgruntled restaurant employee
This is long. Sorry.
Dear ex-bestfriend (Yes, I too hate that term),
I just wanted to say that I am so happy knowing that I don't have contact with you anymore. The drama in my life has been reduced to next-to-nil. I'm sorry I met the man I'm going to marry and that you're not the centre of my universe anymore. I can't believe how catty and selfish you are. Instead of being happy for me, you made ridiculous demands which made me feel like a horrible person when I wouldn't fulfill them for you. I'm sorry I drove an hour with my bf to your house to say goodbye before you left on a 3 week long trip to the middle east, only to watch you work on your laptop and have you ask me to pack for you. WTF? How am I supposed to know what to pack for you? You were leaving for the airport in 3 hours and it was just so typical I could scream.
Sorry my boyfriend and I wouldn't share a tent with you and the latest guy you're using. No one wanted to share except you. When I politely objected and said we'd like to stay in our own tent, you threw a tantrum and refused to go. I let you be the one to explain why our trip was canceled.
I'm sorry I canceled going to a new friend's birthday party for you, because of a party you wanted to throw for yourself. You told me that in your culture I was like a sister to you, and sisters HAVE to help when asked. You made me bar tend. That didn't feel like an insult...
I'm sorry I changed all of my plans around that night so that you could come downtown and sleep over (since you still live with your parents). My boyfriend and I left an amazing industry party around 9pm just to have you call and cancel as I was walking in my front door. You lied about being on your way an hour before, and admitted that you got distracted showing vacation photos to your other friend. That night, while I cried at being let down by you again, my new bf (now my FH) pointed out that he repeatedly watched me being hurt by you, and he didn't think you were a very nice person. He opened my eyes.
I no longer walk on eggshells, worrying that I'm going to let you down, or that I have to involve you in every facet of my life. I'm glad to be rid of your multiple calls a day to complain about nice boys who you treat badly. I don't know how you can have a relationship (if you can call it that) with a warm and caring guy, while having one foot out the door in case something better comes along. I wish I could've warned him.
And sleeping on a strange guy's couch after your first date with him because you missed the last subway home IS weird - that's why he was acting strange about it. Yet you think HE was being rude and awkward. Wake up!!
Please take SOME responsibility in your life. You are so needy and high-maintenance. We met in class when we were 14. We actually used to laugh that we had so little in common. The gaps in our interests became wider as we got older. You became more paranoid and anxious. I became more strong-willed and confident. I came out from under your shadow. I didn't leave you behind. I wanted to stand beside you but you wanted to control me.
You can't walk all over me anymore and I love it. I am not even a little bit sorry.
Sincerely,
Your happy friend who is loving her life without you.
(sorry if that sounds harsh)
Dearest,
Your selfishness astounds me. I will not allow you to take advantage of your brother and his kind heart any longer. He is a genuinely loving, selfless person. Your acts of 'kindness' are for show, and you tout them louder than anyone. But, alas, when it really comes down to it, the way that you treat your family bespeaks your true [lack of] character.
You are pathetic. I hope that you will someday care about something greater than yourself.
Cordially,
Me
go to http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/ its pretty funny and goes along with tihs post
Dear people next door,
Please keep your chickens in a chicken coup like normal chicken owners. They come into my yard and poop. The next time I see them in my yard I will not bring my dog inside I will let her off her run so she can get them out of my yard. Or better yet maybe when my dog needs to take a dump I will bring her into your yard since you think its ok for your chickens to poop in my yard.
Thank you!
Dear Venue
Please send me my f'ing contract, or I will be forced to believe you're doing my wedding for free.
Love,
The Bride-to-Be Who Paid a Deposit Over a Year Ago, and Whose Fault it ISN'T that You Just Bought the Place and Have Virtually No Records to Work From
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