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Spanish culture and engagement

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    Reign14    December 13, 2014   NJ

    Hello Bees,

    My bf is Dominican and I am Black. I noticed that while he talks about marriage often and constantly assures me that we will get married, his timeline is a little fuzzy. We have been together two years, and he brought up marriage talk first in the relationship. I also noticed that in his family marriage is encouraged. He has already told both his family and mine that he plans to marry me.

    I am 3 1/2 years older than him (I'm 28 and he's 25), so naturally I am ready to be engaged now, even though I know a wedding would not happen for probably another 1 1/2 to 2 years. And while he has said he wants to propose within the next year, he hasn't alluded to wanting to get engaged soon and have a long engagement.

    My question is...is there a stigma in latino families about long engagements? Or an expectation that if a couple gets engaged it's because they're about to start planning right away and be married soon?

    I want to offer the suggestion to make him comfortable proposing sooner than later, but wanted to see if his culture was a reason that he might not got for it.

     
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    Reign14    December 13, 2014   NJ

    Anyone? Sorry if this post comes across as ignorant! 

     
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    BrideChristina    May 19, 2012   Miami, FL

    No, I don't think so. I think that's a matter of personal preference, but not a cultural thing. I'm hispanic and I'm having a year-long engagement to plan everything with time and to keep my sanity :) Also, mostly everyone I know who is also hispanic have roughly the same length engagement--1 to 2 years. Obviously there are exceptions with different people but from my experience it's not a cultural thing to look down upon long engagements. 

     
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    Eva Peron    November 2011  

    Hey!

    Well I will start by throwing out there that the word latino/spanish is very broad! Each country has their own tradtions involving marriage and the place it holds in society :)

     i think In general spanish countries, being typically "religious"- value marriage and make it an important part of society!

    I don't think there is any stigma involved with long engagements. I'm not that familiar with Dominican culture so I couldn't tell you for sure.

    I will say that weddings are huge parties and very family oriented- so it wouldn't surprise me if it took some time to coordinate. But I will also say that once a man is engaged, he wouldn't  wait 6 years or anything outrageously long. In Argentina, there is no engagement ring but at the time of proposal you both get wedding rings and wear them on your right hand. Then at your ceremony you switch them to the other hand. Engagement is very serious, It means marriage- not just a next fun step in life :)

    I'm sure you will be engaged soon and it will be a wonderful thing! The blending of cultures is a sweet blessing :)

     
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    merenguito    August 6, 2011   Boston, MA/Wedding in Puerto Rico

    Hmm this is an interesing thing to think about. I'm puertorrican and we have a very similar culture to dominicans.

    I agree with th PP that it's about personal preference but in my opinion long engagements aren't too common in the hispanic culture. I'm thinking about my friends and family that have gotten engaged and I think we generally assume that when she gets the ring they'll start planning the wedding. Maybe 1 - 1/2 years at most.

    I do think it's more common to think about long engagements when they get engaged right out of college and are still getting established. I think when people are over 25 it is more common to have the wedding sooner rather than later.

    I've also seen that when two mature people start having a more serious relationship, people start asking "so, when's the wedding? did you get a ring yet?". The assumption is that if you're established and have a job you are probably getting married soon (rather than live together for a few years, etc.) 

    That said, my brother got engaged at 26 after 5 years in the relationship and was engaged for two more years. I think the general consensus among all the family was "OMG IT WAS ABOUT TIME!" 

    I wouldn't know what's going on in his mind and why he hasn't proposed yet. Maybe he's saving up to get a really nice ring? Is he between jobs or just starting out a new job? Latino men are sometimes proud about how they'll be able to provide for their family or being sure of themselves that they are in a good place to start a family.

    You can ask him something like "so how long do you think is a suitable engagement period?" ( actually my FI asked me this aaround 5 months after we started dating haha) or "where do you see our relationship a year or two years from now?" I think this will give you a better idea of what he's thinking without screaming "where's my ring already!?" Wink

     

    I hope this gives you some insight to hispanic culture!

     
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    beatriz    August 2012  

    @Reign14: No, its not ignorant question or comment.  RAther, in each culture espeically once we get engaged everyone is quick to ask "so whens the wedding" it is just a common question that naturally occurs.  Than after marriage the next question is "para cuando veremos un bebe" (when do we expect to see a baby) and its your wedding nightLaughing

    Antes couples go engaged and were married rather quickly however society and customs have changed even for Latinos . My husband and I dated for 6 years, were engaged for 2 years than married. To many people rush into marriage and than divorce occurs.

    Forget your age, I am already a 29 year old Ruca, but my students tell me I look 19years of age and I believe it since in the beginning of the school year security would stop and try to take me to detentionLaughing

    Women get married at whatever age, however I understand that for us Latinas if we are not married by 30 then "va quedamos para vistir santos"

     
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    beatriz    August 2012  

    @Reign14: No, its not ignorant question or comment.  RAther, in each culture espeically once we get engaged everyone is quick to ask "so whens the wedding" it is just a common question that naturally occurs.  Than after marriage the next question is "para cuando veremos un bebe" (when do we expect to see a baby) and its your wedding nightLaughing

    Antes couples go engaged and were married rather quickly however society and customs have changed even for Latinos . My husband and I dated for 6 years, were engaged for 2 years than married. To many people rush into marriage and than divorce occurs.

    Forget your age, I am already a 29 year old Ruca, but my students tell me I look 19years of age and I believe it since in the beginning of the school year security would stop and try to take me to detentionLaughing

    Women get married at whatever age, however I understand that for us Latinas if we are not married by 30 then "va quedamos para vistir santos"

     
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    SecretBee23    March 15, 2013  

    I thought you meant Spanish from Spain from the title of the post so I figured I'd chime in! I'm half Spanish and have never heard anything about long engagements being a negative thing in any way. Yes, most Spaniards may be devout Catholics, but the younger generations are doing things their way..aka getting married on their own timeline. Hope this helps!

     
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    Reign14    December 13, 2014   NJ

    @merenguito: This was very helpful! Great information, and confirmed a lot of things I was thinking. Thanks.

    Two things you said really hit home...one that people tend to ask when you're getting married if you've been serious for a while. And two that Dominican men definitely have pride when it comes to wanting to be stable and provide for their family. That's one thing I love and respect about him! But it also prolongs things. Ha

     
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    starbzz    December 1, 2013   New York, NY

    Hi,

    I know this thread is old but I was wondering if you had any updates! To add to what other women here said, there isn't really a stigma when it comes to long engagements. I'm Dominican and the males that I have met take marriage seriously. They might take a little longer to propose but when they do it is because they are sure. They like to make sure that they can take care of you and the home financially. Engagement length isn't too long. I'd say no more than a year. Just make sure that you both have the same intentions, sometimes they tend to get comfortable with just being bf/gf. Good luck!

     
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    lionskitty    January 4, 2014   Montreal -to- Miami

    @Reign14:  Sounds a little like my SO! (He's Cuban)

    @merenguito:  "Latino men are sometimes proud about how they'll be able to provide for their family or being sure of themselves that they are in a good place to start a family." I've seen a lot of signs of this in my SO too *sigh* I just want to be engaged since we're already planning on getting married and starting our life together once we save enough money!

     

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