Post # 1
FI has a coworker who went on a tangent the other day, saying he’s upset that bars and the bar areas of restaurants are allowed to exclude children. The coworker has small kids (between the ages of 4 and 7) and he thinks they should allow kids so that the parents can have a drink and aren’t excluded from sometimes hanging out with their friends who are drinking.
I’m super thankful I wasn’t there for that conversation.. it wouldn’t have ended well. I’ll just say this – whenever FI and I go to restaurants that have bar areas, we head straight to that area as fast as possible so that we can have dinner without kids around. I know that a lot of people think drunk adults are worse than kids, but at dinnertime/6pm, we’ve never really had this problem.
Anyway, is this something most parents want changed?? I keep hoping for more adult only restaurants (or in my dream world, an adult only airline!) Anyone else wanting more adult only places?
Post # 3
I don’t want the rules to change…I just want parents to be more responsible. Children should not be in bars. They should not attend R-rated movies. They should not go to the movies after 8pm. They should not be allowed to run around like crazy. They should be told to use their silverware if they are over 4. Etc. Etc.
Post # 4
I would love an adult-only version of everything. Where did people get the idea that they have the right to never be faced with a compromise? Just like I have to compromise on where I can and cannot go when I don’t want to be around kids, parents can compromise when they want to bring their kids. And I really doubt there’s a parent out there who has never wanted a kid-free evening out.
Post # 5
Unless kids can behave, they shouldn’t be in nice restaurants, either.
There should just be a curfew. HA.
Post # 6
ummmm I am always super conscious of my language when I spot kids nearby… I’d like to not be parnoid I’m going to let one slip while drinking… Not even just that.. When I’m out drinking… we don’t really talk about the most appropriate things… I just don’t want to have to make sure I’m setting a good example. lol So no there are places children should not be allowed because there are some parents out there that don’t think.. and then I have to watch my behavior regardless if the parent shouldn’t have brought their kid… the onlky way to ensure this is to ban them.
Post # 7
I cringe at the thought of going to dinner and being seated near children. I am that person that stares awkwardly when a child has a temper tantrum in a store. I can’t understand WHY someone would want their child to be included in a bar area? I’m here to drink, and not worry about kids underfoot. Shudder.
I have an 8 year old daughter who is a small adult. When she observes children behaving insanely at restaurants, movie theaters, stores, etc…she always leans over and says, “You’re welcome.” It’s always baffling to her that kids act that way in public. I’ve also flown with her many times, just the two of us, starting when she was a year old. I saw the eyes of the other passengers rolllll heavenward when we walked on the plane….never fear, the world’s best behaved child is here!!!But I am one of those people who deflates when I see children coming down the aisle of a plane….for good reason, because most of them cry and whine the entire flight. Or kick my chair, or climb under the seats…ughhh
I’m all for excluding children. Adults are not supposed to play in those mall playgrounds, or get in the ball pit at McDonalds, so why would we want kids in our bar/bar area?! Noooo thanks!
Post # 8
I like to get away from children in restaurants whenever I can. In fact, if there are childfree restaurants, I would support them (as long as the food wasn’t terrible). I’m all for bars where children can’t be, because, yeah, who wants to drink and be rowdy naer small children?
Anyway, I think it’s an individual business decision who a restaurant/bar decides to cater to.
Post # 9
We were at Logan’s (Roadhouse?) for lunch on the fourth of July this year. There was a child STANDING IN THE WINDOW WITH BARE FEET two booths over from us. His grandparents and mother were sitting in the booth. No one said anything. WHY AM I SEEING THIS? Of course, me being the jerk I am, I had to take a pic and upload it to FB with a mean caption. When he decided to walk across the table back to his seat, he started playing with the knives. My mean faces and raised eye brows did nothing to deter him. Uh, if your kid can’t get his shit together, fix it or don’t take them out in public. The kid doesn’t look bad, you do.
Then there was the time I was eating at my local Taco Bell and the mom was sitting there on her phone while her three children ran around the place with NO SHOES ON, screaming. IF there were an adults only Taco Bell, goddddddddddddddd, I’d be right there. I want to enjoy my volcano tacoS ALONE.
Post # 10
That co-worker is a fucking idiot.
Bring your kids to a bar full of drunk people who don’t give a crap about your offspring. Brilliant idea, buddy. He should be father of a year.
Part of being a parent is making sacrifices and I’d say not having the ability to go to a bar, which is one of the few safe havens for those who aren’t overjoyed by the presence of children, is a pretty small one.
Post # 11
@Thatswhatshesaid: Well put!
@MississippiQueen: Your Taco Bell comments made me LOL!
Post # 12
Well I am NOT in favor of childfree restaurants. I would purposefully boycott such places when I was not with my (future) kids. I think it’s unfair to punish parents who have good kids. If the kids are misbehaving, the owner/manager should ask the parents to either get ahold of their kids or leave.
But bars? Kids shouldn’t be there at all. And it’s illegal, anyway.
Post # 13
Don’t even get me started…I could write a book on this. So god damn sick of parents thinking that their children should be welcome to everything…theyre NOT….get over it….when they grow up they will get the perks of being an adult. If you can’t handle that your child is a child then don’t f***** have one
Post # 14
Me and Reese don’t understand.
Post # 15
@MississippiQueen: I just want to tell you how refreshing it is to see a parent who acknowledges the realities of children and the limitations they need. You clearly stated what I wish parents would understand: children are not welcome universally.
@MadameTussaud: Total honesty here: I think children don’t belong in adult places and/or situations. Had I witnessed that conversation, the fur would be flying because I couldn’t possibly see the sense of children attending happy hour while the parents drink. I don’t like children, and I’m unapologetic about it, but more than that, I don’t like misbehaving children in a place they shouldn’t be in the first place.
Even though the children are the more visible, audible problem, I usually save my wrath for the parent(s). You brought a child into an inappropriate situation, your child is out of control, your child does not belong here. (“You have a baby… in a bar!”). Don’t shoot me dirty looks when I ask to move tables, don’t call over a manager if your 2-year-old hears me say a naughty word, and don’t you dare leave your stroller parked in the middle of the restaurant so that my nice waitress trips over it, spills my drinks, and gets a concussion from hitting her head on that stroller, then loudly blame the waitress for waking up the baby (true story).
Grumblegrumblegrumble. I know kids have bad days, tantrums, and stubbed toes. I don’t care. Teach your child to behave, quiet down, and begin to act like the adult he/she will be some day.
[For the record, my parents were strict disciplinarians and I did not act out in public (in private, yes). Also, I used to teach 400 kids ages 4-14, so I feel qualified to bitch about crappy parenting.]
Post # 16
Plenty of bars and restaurants with bar areas do allow children – we’ve taken our daughter to bars and breweries many times. Would we go at 9pm? No. During the afternoon, or dinner time at a place that serves food? No problem. My child is well-behaved, talks at a regular volume and doesn’t run around, scream, or leave the table. If she couldn’t behave in public, we wouldn’t take her, but given that she can, I see no reason that my family shouldn’t go out in public and enjoy a nice beer or a meal.