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Can you find another family member's place to have the wedding at? I do understand about pine cone thing. That could leave them open to a lawsuit in the off chance that someone got hurt by a falling pine cone. Also, the umbrellas might be good to keep sap from dripping on people too. As for the aisle thing, there are couples that do have their ceremony with the guests already sitting at the tables. Have you measured everything to see if the everything goes together the way you would like it? Maybe you could compromise with the umbrella and only have some of the tables with them.
It can be hot in a tent and maybe that's why they didn't care for that idea. With your August wedding, it may be really hot at your location.
An alternative to the umbrellas would be paying a gardening company to remove all pinecones which I can imagine would be costly. Pinecones can really hurt if they land on you.--I'm sure your relative has stories to tell.
I have heard of weddings/receptions using the same table seating for both. A garden wedding is inherently more casual and this type of seating would be perfectly acceptable. Check with the rental company, but I'm sure they would have tablecloths that will work for the umbrellas. You may have to modify the flowers, but it is doable in a wreath style.
If you are really uncomfortable with their parameters, you can look for an alternate site. Personally, I love garden weddings as they are more intimate. I'm sure your wedding will be lovely. Best wishes.
I can't switch sites at this point, and I probably wouldn't over these couple of things. I know that they mean well, so I'm just surprised. I've already ordered the linens (I bought them,) so we'll have to cut them for the umbrella. They don't like the idea of umbrellas being in stands, either, so that' not really an option.
I guess that people sitting at the tables during the ceremony is the thing I have the biggest concern over. I've never seen or heard of this happen. It kind of spoils the fun of walking down the aisle!
I'd still make an aisle. You can outline it in petals or greens or something. There must be some way you can arrange that. I don't understand how you can have an umbrella without a stand.
This is one of my all-time faves, with gorgeous white table umbrellas.
http://www.amouramour.com.au/2009/09/mondays-muse-great-gatsby-inspired.html
Before the venue was changed,this is what we were having at a beachfront wedding. I was worried about the centerpieces too,but what I came up with was candle stands that are graduated in height and circular. I was going to add fresh flowers winding up or scattered at the base. I actually bought a dozen of them in different styles and we used RubNBuf to change them from black to silver. Not sure if you'd be interested in something like that,but its something to consider. If I can find a picture,I'll post it for you.
With regard to the linens, you may be able to sell them and use something else as an alternate for the tables. Will they be rentals? rather than full tablecloths,maybe you can just get runners or organza overlays to add some color,bunching them around your centerpieces. You can get matching napkins,colored table numbers,etc. It would look beautiful!
The picture of the tables with umbrellas are stand alone umbrellas,but do look pretty. That's a nice option as well.
I can't imagine a pine cone actually hurting someone, but things in general falling from trees will make a mess. Leaves,small branches,etc, so I agree with having something.........and tents are really hot,even with fans!
Here's a link showing various styles.
The stand alone umbrellas in the attachment (I gather from the position of the sun) were there simply for shade from the sun. And they positioned them according to where the sun would be when they sat down to eat. The way they are stand alone, not covering the tables, would not protect guests from falling pine cones. Also, if trees are that close that pine cones can fall on people, I think there re other things that can fall on them, ruining their food, hair, clothes. (Ie. bird poop, leaves, needles, twigs)
Why doesnt the family want a tent? Perhaps you can research some options that would work with them. If not, though, I'd see if you can use table umbrellas to your advantage. Not many people do use them. But that can be a good thing, something unique to your wedding. Can you decorate them? (flowers lights, lanterns). You can maybe hnag some lights or candles on the inside of the umbrella, etc.
As forthe aisle. I would still try to do it. I don't know how much land and how many guests. But see if you can figure it out. Perhaps you'll need to hire someone to set up and take down. Then add some tables where the ceremony was. But that might mean having a little cocktail hour while things get rearranged.
What about a canopy instead of an inclosed tent? You could run some wire and do something really neat with it like this:
Would it be possible for you to have the area with just chairs and an aisle for your ceremony then have a few family members set up the tables during a "cocktail" hour? Have all the guests move to a different location while they set up? That way you can have your aisle and then put up the tables.
My FI's cousin had a more casual wedding and we all sat at our dinner tables during the ceremony. I thought nothing of it - seemed perfectly fine to me and everyone else there. They still made a walkway from the back of the room through the tables to the front so she could have her walk down the aisle.
If you are really not thrilled with some of these ideas, You definitely need to explain why to them and try and find a middle ground. Maybe you would be fine with everyone sitting at their tables if they were under a tent or what not. You need to negotiate.
I'm having an outdoor wedding reception and tables have option for umbrellas. At first I thought that was cheesy, but my family insisted- after agreeing I am now so glad, b/c I think it will shade people, and give an element of coziness and "an outdoor garden affair" feel. The umbrellas are high enough. I'm actually quite excited about it, and think it will be grand. Tents are cool too if you can afford them. Our site was pricey enough- and beautiful out. As for ceremony- people that get married at this site use the seating chairs to make a separate aisle then during cocktail or mingle hour, people arrange the chairs and tables. I definately enocurage you separate the two and get some guys to arrange tables after the ceremony. Don't fret- the umbrellas are classy! And we are making this a "Night to remember"- not casual. Guys in tuxes, outdoor lighting etc...it's all how you make it and view it. There are table clothes with umbrella holes you can rent. If it is day wedding I'd definately consider umbrellas b/c sun may bother some. As for table decor- I am having two 4x4 crystal vases with flowers and then two candles with coloring to match. Some will bring out the theme color in a cloth or see through material around the area where the umbrella comes out.
Side note- I had the same issue/thoughts about another thing (jewelry) and I posted it on here- my grandmother wanted me to wear something I thought was obsurd, and after listening to the other girls it actually got me excited. Hope this was helpful. ;) Good luck!
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the feedback, I'm feeling a bit better about the possible changes. I'm trying hard to not to be a bridezilla, and sometimes it's difficult to separate reasonable reactions from bridezilla reactions...
I guess it's not the end of the world if we have umbrellas. I actually don't mind the way they look, but just not in the middle of the table. If they're in the table, they will protect against pine cones and whatever else is falling, but not the sun since that'll be at an angle. It also means that we can't use them in the ceremony since they won't be portable. And, I'd need to alter linens, centerpieces, and probably the table cards. I'm hoping that they'll go for the independently standing umbrellas. That seems like a good compromise. Now, the aisle thing is a different story. I'm still a bit surprised at that idea, and I'm still not sure what a good alternative would be. :(
I think the umbrella pictures above look very pretty. The tent may not work anyway with the trees. and when we rented one for my brother's rehearsal dinner they asked if we had powerlines nearby, trees, and any underground lines. We couldn't do stakes to hold the tent down because my parents yard had underground gas lines. So instead we had to use the ugly barrels to hold the tent down. So you might be saving yourself a little headache by using umbrellas instead.
As for the asile. Could you not at least set-up 3-4 rows of chairs for immediate/extended family to sit in and then let remaining guests sit at the tables closest to the ceremony? That would still give you the asile feel and you could position tables to create an asile path between them.
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We're having our wedding at a family member's house. We had dinner with them last night, and they gave an unexpected request... that we have umbrellas at each of the tables to prevent pine cones from falling and hitting someone. I asked about a tent, and they did not want to go that route. I've been searching for pictures online and have not seen any with table umbrellas. I don't think it's going to look very good, and it kind of interferes with centerpiece, linens, etc. plans. What do you girls think?
Also - they suggested that if we don't have enough space for an aisle, that we have everyone just sit at their spots at the tables during the ceremony. I was not expecting that suggestion at all... to be honest it sounds terrible. Thoughts??