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    eholden    June 25, 2011   Corvallis/Milton-Freewater Oregon

    Has anyone completed this program?  Is anyone else thinking about applying, or has anyone already applied?

     
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    lemon    07/07/07   NorCal!

    TFA alum here! 2002 Los Angeles Corps!!! WOOT WOOT!

    If you have any questions, let me know. I'm on the recruiting teams every year so I respond to lots and lots of emails from potential applicants.

     
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    Miss Velveteen    20 March 2010   New Zealand

    What is Teach for America?

     
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    Serya    October 7, 2011   Frederick, MD

    I have 2 cousins who are with TFA - they love it.

     
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    Lillindy    September 2008   Bay Area, CA

    Would love to hear more about this!

     
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    eholden    June 25, 2011   Corvallis/Milton-Freewater Oregon

    Well, I will take a stab at explaining it, but I am sure that Mrs. Lemon could probably do a little better :)

    It is a program for college graduates.  Those that are accepted receive intensive training and are placed in either an inner city or rural school.  These schools often face poverty and are underperforming.  The training provides you with the skills necessary to close the achievement gap.  There is a 2 year teaching committment.

    The program is open to all majors and pays a salary and benefits.  This ensures that the best candidates are able to participate regardless of their financial situation.

    Mrs. Lemon, please feel free to fill any gaps that I left open!

     

     

     
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    eryepye    March 27, 2010   Seattle, married in Portland

    My sister was in TFA and assigned to Miami.  It was a horrendous situation, TFA did nothing to help her, she was in mortal danger on a daily basis, and then TFA fired all its Miami teachers because "real" Miami teachers wanted jobs.  I would not recommend the program.

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    eryepye: That's a really unfortunate situation, I'm sorry your sister experienced that. My FI is in TFA and while his school is not easy by any means, he really likes his job and has plenty of support from TFA. 

    Speaking as the fiance of a corps member, its a really great program IF you want to be a teacher. A lot of people join because they aren't sure what they want to do with their lives and its a good shelter from the economy, or because it will help them get into law school or medical school. These are the people that struggle the most. My FI has a heart for teaching and wants to stay in education past his two year commitment, but if he didn't feel that way, it would be a lot harder - like it is for some of his friends who's hearts aren't in it.

    eholden, good luck with the application process! My FI was a CCC (Campus Campaign Coordinator) before he joined and so he knows a lot of the inner workings. If you want to email him for more info, let me know!

     
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    eholden    June 25, 2011   Corvallis/Milton-Freewater Oregon

    @eryepye: I am sorry to hear about the bad experience that your sister had.  I'm sure it is like with any program, unfortunatly a few people fall through the cracks and don't get the same experience.

     

    @daniellemybelle: Thank you for your reply.  I know without a doubt that I want to spend the rest of my life in a classroom.  I was kind of discouraged by reading on-line that they may not be looking for future teachers exactly.  I meet with a representative on either Monday or Tuesday of next week, but I may be interested in e-mailing your FI after that.  Again thank you so much for all of the information.  I knew there would be bees or hivemembers who knew a thing or two about the program!

     

     

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    @eholden: TFA is not a perfect program by any means. I think it a problem that they don't focus more on people who want to teach as a career, and instead recruit "high performing" college grads that may not make good teachers. If you really want to be a teacher, seriously consider TFA. It's a great avenue into teaching, with awesome grants that are great in this economic climate, and once you've taught in TFA schools you can teach anywhere!

     
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    I had a very bad experience in TFA.  I did everything they asked me to do and they did not place me until a few weeks into the school year.  Then they fired me.  There's a lot more to the story than that obviously, but I sold everything and moved across the country to a new city and now have only unemployment benefits, no health coverage, and no support from TFA.  They are also requiring that I pay them back for my grad school classes I took.  Be very careful before joining TFA.  They make you sign away all your rights.

     
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    KMSull    August 7, 2010   Lexington, KY (via Atlanta, GA)

    Goodness, I have NO desire to teach (thought I do volunteer with a first grade class) but the amount of respect I have for Teach for America is sky high! I love the program in theory and while I've heard it's not perfect (what program is?), bravo for what it's trying to accomplish!

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    TFA tends to look for people who want to make an impact in larger policy ways than just inside the classroom (although they don't reject people just because they want to be in education in the future)... at least this was the impression I got at meetings in undergrad. My understanding is that they are looking for future leaders to get a better sense of the challenges that underprivileged kids are facing by being in the classroom for two years.

    However, as a former teacher, I can relate to what daniellemybelle is saying. If you don't love teaching, two years is a LONG time.

     
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    eholden    June 25, 2011   Corvallis/Milton-Freewater Oregon

    I have met with the recruiter and am super excited about applying.  I am a little intimidated by their 15% acceptance rate but I'm not going to let it stop me from wanting it.

     
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    octopus    January 1, 2000  

    Las Vegas Valley alum 06 right here! What's up Mrs. Lemon!

    @eholden, I overall have somewhat mixed, but generally positive, feelings about TFA. PM me if you want to talk or ask tips on the application process. I experienced nothing like the really bad stuff some other girls did.

     
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    lemon    07/07/07   NorCal!

    Woot Woot Carrie! :)

    As a member of the "oh crap what did I get myself into" crowd... I'll explain a bit of my TFA backstory.

    1) I was waitlisted. But, I then got into a region I wanted, could manage and was perfect for me (LA).

    2) I had no job for 7 weeks. I went on multiple interviews (with many other TFA candidates), and just never got a placement. I finally got a class almost 2 months into the school year - I was a permanent substitute teacher at a school during the time I was out.

    3)I was fired after my first year teaching -- along with all other TFA corps members on my track. We all had to find new jobs (with TFAs help) that summer for the next year.

    4) My new placement was a position that no other LA corps member had ever had (8th grade math/science), so I had no help for professional devt. from TFA or monthly meetings like every one else.

    My story proves one of the biggest points about TFA -- if you're not flexible and comfortable going with whatever happens and rolling with the flow, then there's a good chance that TFA is not for you.

    As for what they're looking for: future leaders of any sort, people who are not satisfied with the status quo, and people who enjoy confronting challenges head on and relentlessly pursuing a solution. Less than 50% of corps members stay in the classroom beyond 3 years. I work in education policy... which is where a lot of alums head afterwards. Many of my friends went on to medical school and law school, or are administrators. They actually try to recruit away from people who just want to be teachers, because their data has shown that those individuals don't always make the best corps members. So it doesn't help or hurt to have a background in education.

    p.s. as for Miami... well that's the one district that was TFA's biggest messup of all time. It was horrible and hideous and is still a scar on the program. I can't reason away anything that happened there.

     
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    I am another former TFA-er who did not have a great experience.  Well my summer institute experience was GREAT, then once I was finally placed the week before school started) I had many issues. My experience was influenced by some of my own personal factors as well as some issues with my school, NOT the TFA program itself. (I was placed in the Bronx). They provided me with a lot of support, but it just was not enough. I still keep in touch with most of the people I worked with and the people I spent the summer training with. I think the concept of TFA is great and they work to  improve the experience each year. It is important to be okay with being VERY flexible. I actually just spent some time discussing the application process with students at my university, so if you have any questions, definitely let me know.

     
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    jduck84    August 2010   Minneapolis, MN

    I agree with spaniel - they have worked hard at becoming an "elite" program and want future policymakers and leaders - and in my personal experience, it seemed like they accepted a lot of people who were not necessarily interested in working with students or teaching but wanted to use TFA to segue into other careers. I applied and was rejected along with many people I know who are passionate about education and working with underserved youth... at the time, I was really disappointed, but looking back, I'm actually happy they knew I wasn't right for it!

    One of my college roommates did TFA for two years in D.C., arguably the nation's worst school district, and she decided to stay on as a teacher when she was done, although not at the same school.  From her perspective, TFA wasn't very supportive of corps members who wanted to continue as teachers, and morale was low among her TFA co-workers.  But, I realize that is only one person's perspective.

    I think the program is trying to do good work, but I don't necessarily agree with how they're going about that work.

     
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    eholden    June 25, 2011   Corvallis/Milton-Freewater Oregon

    Hello All,

    I really appreciate the honest feedback that you have all provided.  You have definitely provided me with some quesitons to ask.  I know that I want to spend time in the classroom.  Eventually I plan to move into administrations or policy.

    The thing that I have seen mentioned multiple times, is not receiving a placement.  According to all of the information on the website, TFA now offers you a placement when you are accepted.  Has this changed since you were involved, or was that the impression you had when you applied?

    I have also seen comments about getting fired.  Were those in schools that had an established history with TFA, or were you in a school without that relationship?

    If you don't mind me asking, when you were fired did TFA offer to help you find a new placment?

    Thank you all for your help!

     
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    eryepye    March 27, 2010   Seattle, married in Portland

    My sister was promised a full-time placement.  Then after she moved there for this position, they said she may only get a substitute teaching placement with no benefits.  She did end up getting placed full-time about a week before school started.  She moved her entire life across country for this and had truly excelled at the summer institute in Atlanta that summer.  Her experience, as I mentioned before, was truly horrendous.  She left after a couple of months because TFA was making her plan a year-long curriculum and her school was making her plan a separate one, so she had to do two entire, year-long plans!  TFA wouldn't budge on this even though she was working so hard she was barely getting any time to sleep.  Also, the students were beyond difficult: stabbing other students with sharpened rulers, throwing their desks out into the hall, etc.  She had to teach with a locked classroom door for safety, couldn't have a computer at school and there were cockroaches covering the restroom to the point where she held it all day long.  My sister was given no support by TFA or any other teachers at the school to learn how to handle these types of situations.  She was actually openly hated by the other, non-TFA teachers at the school and was told by the janitor not to arrive too early in the morning lest she get shot and he have to clean up her blood.  She cried and cried every night, repeatedly reached out to TFA and got ZERO support and finally made the agonizing decision to leave.  Don't get it wrong, she WANTED to stay!  She didn't want to abandon her kids and really believed in the TFA message at first.  She's not some wimpy girl, she is a 6' tall, hard as nails, ridiculously smart, ambitious, top women's college educated person who has come out on top of MANY difficult situations.  The fact that someone might think she "couldn't handle it" is so far from the truth.  Shortly after she left, the rest of the TFA teachers at her school were fired and left out in the cold.  TFA did nothing to help them find work after moving their lives to Miami.  As you can tell, I have a complete bias against the program after what my sister endured, that being said, I know some people have had relatively good experiences.  My advice if you do it: develop an incredibly thick skin and don't choose Miami!

     
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    octopus    January 1, 2000  

    @Eholden, I think one of the things to remember as well is that no matter what TFA tells you, not all placements are equal. Every placement region absolutely has its challenges, and you WILL be in a school with a whole host of things working against you, but some places are unequivocally worse than others. For example, people I knew from Institute who were teaching in LA had horror stories that would never, in my worst nightmare, take place at my school in Las Vegas.

     
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    When I was fired, I was left out in the cold.  TFA demanded I pay back my relocation loan immediately in full even though I was making payments on time.  They did not support me.  My letter of termination simply said that they did not need a reason to fire me as it said in my contract.  I am still jobless after several months.  I moved from Seattle to New York City and was placed in the Bronx about 6 weeks into the school year. I too am not a 'wimp' and in fact, I have traveled extensively and have overcome many personal hurdles.  I have never had a setback in my life that I had so much trouble getting past than I had with TFA.  I still have nightmares.  If I had health insurance, I would seek counseling.

     
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    jduck84    August 2010   Minneapolis, MN

    eryepye and courteousgal - I'm so sorry your sister/you had to go through that with TFA. Just wanted to say, courteousgal - there are counseling centers, drop-in and otherwise, that work on a sliding scale and it doesn't matter if you have health insurance. Don't let lack of health insurance hold you back from at least looking into it.

     
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    Angeleri2bee    05/22/2010   El Paso, TX

    I have several friends who are currently working for Teach for America and they love it!!

     
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    beth1125    January 7, 2011  

    Hi bees! I know this is an old thread but I'm wondering if any of the TFA alum could tell me how high you ranked the region you were ultimately placed in on your preference form?

    THANKS!

     

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