(Closed) Teacher sexually abused two boys. Why did she get off so easy?

posted 6 years ago in Legal
Post # 3
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2012

The double standard on this topic is ridiculous.  No matter your gender, you took advantage of your position in a child’s life and should be penalized for it.  Simple as that.

Post # 4
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

I think this is completely wrong. She should have done at least some time in jail. I wouldn’t be amazed if she continues this while on probation.

Post # 5
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 1993

Oh yeah, a male teacher would be branded a rapist and shunned from society. But a female teacher is some kind of “fantasy” and that’s ok. I see this teacher is also young and pretty. If she had been an ugly 50 year old, she’d be spending time in jail.

 

It’s completely ridiculous.

Post # 6
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Bumble bee

There’s this weird perception too that a guy can’t have sex unless he wants to, which just isn’t true. It’s horrible. I wish they would disguise the genders of the people involved just so people can see how differently they get sentenced. 

Post # 7
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Helper bee
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@DeathByDesign:  That definitely is sexist, I would think she would have gotten some kind of stricter sentence. H

owever, having done a report on sexual abusers in college, it’s shocking how most (female and male) don’t get the harsh sentences we assume they should get. Some even get released very early with probation for “good behavior”. I forget the exact statistic/numbers  but it most cases, drug dealers will serve a longer sentence than a sexual abuser, which is totally backwards in my opinion.

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

I definitely think there’s a double standard but it’s unexcusable. She should go to jail.

Post # 9
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

There’s definitely a double standard. I think it’s really unfair.. and she should definitely be in jail! I remember in past years seeing some news stories locally, and there was a huge contrast between the men & the women. The pubic was very outraged at the men, but not so much at the women. I don’t understand it. 

Post # 10
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

Without knowing the details of the case, I hate to scream “sexism” the way the author did. Just because there’s a correlation between sex & lower sentences does not mean necessarily that there is sexism going on (although it is, of course, possible). It’s possible that sexes tend to go about sexual relationships with students (bad, no matter what) differently, and that accounts for the difference in sentences. Or it could be that the correlation exists because more women who molest children tend to show signs of mental illness, making their sentences less harsh. Obviously, I don’t know the details, but I am hesitant to scream “sexism” without knowing the intricacies of the cases. 

Post # 11
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

well to be fair, this is a case of statuatory rape, not out and out rape. Obviously it should be punished and I think she got off light, but I wouldn’t compare it to a molestation or out and out rape.

As far as male teachers going to jail for the same behavior–without proof (like the sexts here) it becomes a whole he said she said situation, and rarely ends in conviction. A male teacher at my school was accused of  molesting a few 5th grade girls, I have every reason to believe he was guilty, but without hard proof they couldn’t even fire him, just reassigned him to high school (yay so they could encounter him again in the future, most of the girls ended up moving to prevent this)

 

To me, what he did was far worse than statuatory rape. These girls were 11 years old, wanted no part of his attentions, and yet he groped them and forced some to engage in sex acts. Those memories will affect them for years and have a huge negative impact on their relationships. 

 

While these boys were too young to enter into the decision to have sex with an adult, I doubt that they are as affected since it was consensual

 

 

Post # 12
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

Well do keep in mind that she got probation via a plea bargain, not with a jury trial, and while I love Slate for entertainment value, I don’t trust them to report fairly— I’m betting that at least some of the comparisons they make in terms of sentence are sentences handed down by juries, which are almost always more severe than those reached in plea agreements.

I do believe women are more likely to plead out than men, not just for these types of charges but in general. That’s a sociological issue with many roots including women’s usual role in society as the nurturers/peacemakers (men, being the hunters and warriors, may be more likely to endure the conflict and strife of a trial) and women’s financial resources not always being as deep as men’s.

I’m not saying there isn’t a double-standard—- there is, and even a jury verdict on a woman may be more likely to be lenient— just saying let’s compare apples to apples.

Post # 13
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

Yes, it’s a horrible double standard.  The new Adam Sandler movie is about a boy who was raped by his teacher, and she got pregnant and kept the kid.  That’s supposed to be funny.  Society takes the abuse of teenage boys so lightly that is can even be a topic of comedy.  So very sad.  We need to treat sexual offenses against boys AND girls (and women, for that matter) much more seriously than we do now.  I read this recently about the movie, and the double standards OP mentions.  It’s worth a read.  http://rogercanaff.com/site/2012/05/thats-my-boy-sandler-covert-what-were-you-thinking/ 

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2012

It’s the typical double standard.

Post # 15
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Bee Keeper
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@EastMeetsBarn:  WHOA. That’s what that movie is about? Way to be classy.

Post # 16
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

While I agree that it appears to be a double standard, one also has to keep in mind that her sentance was on a plea bargain, not a trial.  That typically results in lighter sentances so one can’t compare it to a man who went to jury trial.

@EastMeetsBarn:  You’re mis-construing that plot quite a bit.  The movie is about a dad reconnecting with the son he fathered as a teenager.  The dad was not a good parent and is now having to deal with the repercussions of that.  Yes – the son was fathered with his teacher but he wasn’t raped (unless you’re assuming it was statuatory rape which would completely be an assumption).

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