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posted 2 years ago in Career
  • poll: What should I do about my suspicions?
    Report it : (55 votes)
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    Tell him if he does it again I will be forced to report him : (10 votes)
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    Miss Cheeky    May 8, 2010   South Jersey

    I really need advice ladies...

    My job is a operations manager, and I oversee all of the back office operations to make sure we are compliant with certain policies and procedures. In the past I have found things that my managers were doing that were unethical and had to report it, which resulted in both being fired. I now have a new manager and just found something I find alarming.

    Without boring you with the ins and outs of how my company works, basically he came out from his office, grabbed a piece of merchandise off the shelf, returned it without an original receipt, and took the cash. I see him on camera walk to the back and put the merchandise back, and with the cash in hand, want in his office and then out really quick (office isn't on camera). This obviously looks like stealing and there isn't really a logical explanation I can think of for this because there wasn't a customer in front of him. 

    I confronted him about it and he said he had the merchandise, and would bring it in with the original receipt. I told him to give me the original over the phone because I needed to take care of it that day, and he blew me off said he would get back to me. He then didn't respond to my messages for the rest of the day which resulted in us loosing compliancy for that item.

    He is a really well known and liked manager, and I even like him, but I feel in my gut there is something wrong here. Similar things have come up before but I never researched them enough. I feel like I should report him for investigation, but I will probably lose most if not all of my work friends and ruin his friendship with my FI. I really don't know what to do. Has anyone been in a similar situation or have some guidance, I could really use it :(?

     
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    beekiss2      

    You should report it with the necessary documentation to an even higher boss/supervisor.

    If you get caught, not telling it especially if it's your job then you could get in trouble.  Plus, what he did was extremely unprofessional.

     
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    His Barista    September 4, 2010   Spokane, WA

    I think that is something you def. need to report! Or at least have it looked into!

     
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    prettylizy    November 24, 2010  

    I would for sure investigate it a little more, see if you can find some more evidence, then I'd say you have to report it. You don't want to risk your own job and livelyhood for someone else.

     
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    Miss Cheeky    May 8, 2010   South Jersey

    I guess I'm just afraid that I am wrong. I can't really research any more than I have on my own because we cannot see all surveillance angles. I don't want it to end up being nothing and then I just created a tense work environment for myself. I was thinking about talking with him and just being honest about what I see and see if he can give me some sort of explanation.

     
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    noritake22    March 31, 2011   Seattle

    I think you should report it. You should be able to report is anonymously, if you are afraid of any repurcussions.

     
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    LpCutiPie    July 3, 2010   Central Florida

    I'd report it. Ultimately he's the one that put you in this position and in my opinion he made your choice clear by not responding to your messages.

     
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    SugarSweetPink    May 29, 2010  

    definitely report it to upper managment.  if they discover it on their own and find out you knew, you can be fired yourself.  like say they are investigating and they question you and it all comes out that you saw these things all along, they will def get more angry because maybe it could have been stopped sooner.

    I don't want to get into what my job is, but I see things like this ALL the time in all different types of companies.  withholding information like that is against almost every company policy i've seen.  and getting fired for misconduct will affect many different things down the road.  just trust me.

     
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    Miss Cheeky    May 8, 2010   South Jersey

    I feel like I'm in a tough spot. I never had a problem reporting people before because I didn't particularly like them. This person I like, and they are friends with my friends outside of work. I know I shouldn't put my job in jeopardy because of that. I guess I just always hear, "don't throw your manager under the bus" and feel like maybe I should talk to him. At the same time though he isn't going to admit wrongdoing to me!

     
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    Yeah, just tell upper management that you suspect suspicious activity from this manager and hand over all your documentation.  They're the ones that'll make the decision.

     
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    Moose1209       Nashville, TN

    Do you have a whistleblowing policy you can reference?  That might give you some guidance.  I think you should check with him tomorrow and let him know he needs to provide you with the original receipt he claimed to have.  If he does not produce it let him know you have to raise the incident and you will allow upper management to work it out with him.  The prior poster who said you are risking your job by not reporting it is absolutely right! This guy is clearly not concerned about putting you in a terrible position so you should not worry about reporting him because of your relationship away from the office.  Good luck!

     
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    AmberEyes    October 9, 2010   Toronto

    I agree with noritake22 - report it annonymously. His behavior is unprofessional and he isn't inspiring any confidence by blowing you off. If this is prolonged it could negatively impact the company you work for. It needs to be reported one way or another.

     
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    spaganya    September 4, 2010   Arlington, VA/wedding in Williamsburg, VA

    i would  be careful approaching him again - he already is non compliant with what you asked for earlier, and any further probes would probably make him more defensive, and if hes THAT well liked in the office he might have enough pull to make YOU seem like the liar.

    report him to the proper authorities. that is what they are there for, to investigate things like this impartially. your only obligation is to report it.

    failure to report it could put your own job at risk.

    bottom line - if he was *that* nice or *that* great of a friend he wouldnt have put you in the position you are in. my guess is he is banking on you being a nice person or a great friend and keeping it to yourself.

    run, dont walk, and report him. Lord knows what else he has been getting away with if hes  THAT blatant about something like that.

     
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    Bamboo    June 2010   Midwest

    Well, I think you already gave him a chance to explain the situation and he wouldn't. It's not personal, its professional. And if he did do something wrong he has no one to blame about the predicament but himself. And if he does actually have an original receipt he really shouldn't hold a grudge because again, you were just doing your job.

     
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    If he was really on the up and up wouldn't he have provided you the original you asked for WHEN you asked for it?  If he was even HALF your friend, then he would have given you what you needed.  The fact that you approached him about this and he flippantly blew you off tells me that he is trying to hide behind a friendly relationship with you, and he knows it.  I would report it.  You've already given him the chance to be honest about the whole thing and fix the problem, but he didn't hold up his end.  You've given him the chance, I'd say now you're forced to report it.  Whenever I do investigations of these types of things, the person in the wrong usually emotionally blackmails someone by first becoming their friend, then abusing the friendship while doing illegal things...sounds like he's just another dumb criminal to me.  Sorry your boss is both dishonest and a jerk.

     
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    rlsulli1598@verizon.net       oregon

    I agree with SugarSweetPink and Beekiss2, Report it, provide evidence you have and let the upper management deal with it.  I wouldn't talk with him about it again.  You gave him a chance.  Can you report it to higher ups so others in your company and friends would not know it was you that reported him?

     
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    ccranetobe    August 14, 2010  

    I would report it. No one can come back at you for being honest and keep in mind that this is what the boss employees you for. To keep everything in check!!

    Dont be torn about it. You are doing the right thing!

     
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    menobride    June 5, 2011   NH

    Call him out on it again...with someone else present. Or, report it anonymously. Do you have a security department? I was a retail manager for a long time, and we had one. Nobody was immune from being "suspect" and plenty of managers stole.

    when inventory time comes around, or whatever you have for a system that recognizes missing product, you might be the one they look at. He also might try to pin it on you, knowing that you know what you know. Then it would go on your record. I would not confront him alone again.

     

     
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    CurlyDreamer    patiently waiting   Bay Area

    Ok, I'll play devil's advocate here. I would talk to him first and see what he says. Even though you can't imagine it now, there could be a perfectly reasonable explanation for everything, including the not calling you back. Wouldn't it suck to report him and have it turn out to be nothing, and then it causes a bad work enviornment for you?

    On the flipside, if he IS doing something, you might be able to gauge better by his reaction or explanation (or lack thereof). Either way, you have given him the benefit of the doubt and, therefore, don't need to feel guilty about turning him in. Me, personally, I'm one to give people the benefit of the doubt up to a point.

     

     

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    I would talk to him about it but if there is no reasonable explanation and no receipt is provided, you need to report it.  Don't wait until the next time it happens.  It is your job on the line also.

     
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    caszos    June 2010   Florida

    This may be bad but here is how I look at it. 

     

    If I was a normal employee and happend to see something suspicious I would confront him about it and let him know if it happened again I would report it.

     

    However, if it is your job to find and report these types of things you need to report it ASAP otherwise risk losing your own job. 

     
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    Frugal Bride    July 17, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    (I'm sorry, I didn't get through all the responses, so I don't know if anyone has suggested this yet.)

    I think that you should confront him about it directly. Don't accuse him, but instead tell him straight-up what it looked like to you. If he has done nothing wrong, he should understand your responsibility and be able to explain and you can both laugh about the situation. If he gets defensive and angry at your concerns then I would be very suspicious and report it to a higher authority.

     
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    Jizes318    November 19, 2010   Miami

    DO YOU MIND ME ASKING WHAT KIND OF MERCHANDISE THIS IS? ARE WE TALKING LIKE A COUPLE HUNDRED OR LIKE $30 BUCKS. I WOULD GO RIGHT UP TO HIM AND SAY DO YOU HAVE A RECEIPT OR NOT? ITS YOUR JOB AND YOU DONT NEED TO LOOSE IT BECAUSE OF HIM. BUT I WOULD TALK AGAIN, NOT VIA EMAIL ETC.. IN PERSON. READ HIM. SEE HOW HE REACTS. IF YOU HAVE TO REPORT HIM. BUT IN ALL HONESTY HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING HERE MONEY WISE? IS IT SOMETHING THAT POSSIBLY COULD BE LET GO AND IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN THEN YOU CAN GO FURTHER?

     
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    MissChirpie    August 2010   Minnesota

    I know it's tough, but you can't pick and choose who you report. You have to adhear to the same rules you would for anyone else. It could come back to haunt you if you allow this to continue because if he continues to steal and your company finds out you knew about it, your job will be at risk as well. Is there any way you can report him confidentially?

     
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    Report him.  Don't put your job on the line to save his.  You've asked for the recipt and he blew you off.  If he was a friend to you, he'd make sure to give you what you needed ASAP.

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    It sounds like he may be taking advantage of your friendship to get away with something. that's not only disrespectful as a coworker, but as a friend. I would ask him nicely one last time, and move ahead with reporting this for further investigation. If he truly is doing something underhanded, it doesn't sound like he would hesitate to throw YOU under the bus if he gets in trouble, as an accomplice. If he is stealing, he's made his bed and has to lie in it.

     
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    serabell    May 22, 2010   Oregon

    I'd talk with him about it & see if you can get the reciept from him later today/tomorrow. If he can't come up with it, then talk to him. If he doesn't have an explanation, then go from there. Are you sure there's not a customer around? Or maybe another worker had him help them return something. I'm not sure, but look into first before reporting. It would be awful if he was honest, & you accused him of stealing, that may ruin your relationship w/ him & other co-workers. However, if it turns out he was stealing, you should report him.

     
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    Sheeoni    10/10/10   Austin, TX

    I am with the other bees here that say you need to report it to your upper management. There is no anonymity at this point since you already confronted him. If there is something strange that he's been doing, again, your job could be in jeapordy for suspecting he did something like that-- he essentially admitted to doing it when he refused to answer your request. I wouldn't have even confronted him about it. It's not your job to prove he's innocent.

    If anything, you've given him time to think of some piss-poor excuse as to why it happened and try to cover his butt.  

    You're responsible for inventory? In the end, its possible that he could flip this around to reflect your poor inventory management skills and have you canned to prevent you from being in the way later.

    You said, "He then didn't respond to my messages for the rest of the day which resulted in us loosing compliancy for that item."
    if your new manager cared anything at all about the company he works for, and respected you as an individual, he would not have put you in this situation.  Please consider that.

     
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    Future Mrs. Martin    August 21, 2010   London Ontario Canada

    This tough but I think you should confront him again - ask for the merchandise and the receipt and if he doesn't produce it - REPORT HIM!

     
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    daydreamwanderer       DC

    If you're friends with this person, he's disrespecting you, because he puts you in a tough spot (sorry if anyone already said this - it makes me mad so I didn't read any of the comments, just have to fuss over it ASAP!). If you say something, you damage your friendship, but if you don't, you endanger your own job! It sucks that he would put you in that position!

    I would say something like, "I need the original reciept from xyz by tomorrow morning, or policy is that I have to report it. I don't mean to be a stickler about it, but sticking to policy on this stuff helps ensure job safety for all of us - I would hate for anyone to get the wrong idea, you know?"

    And when you report it, tell them, "he says he has a reciept but hasn't submitted it yet, so you may need to double check with him."

     
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    2PeasinaPod       Philadelphia

    You definitely have to think about your own job first. If someone else reports him, and they find out that you knew something, you could also get fired. That's definitely not an ideal situation. I know it's going to be tough b/c you like him and he's friends with your friends outside of work, but I think it's in your best interest to report him so that they can do their due diligence.

     
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    Purquez2011    August 15, 2011   Ellensburg, WA

    I work in the operations department of a big department store chain and handle most customer service stuff (returns, complaints, etc.). When I read your first post, I thought that you were afraid to report because you were afraid to loose your job...but then I read farther down and found out that it's really because you like your manager and don't want to disrupt that relationship. Totally get it, but there's a HUGE problem to that. What he is doing IS STEALING! If someone else catches him doing that and finds out that you knew but never reported, you're fired too for "acting like an accompliance". Simple as that. 

    Stealing is stealing and although no one wins, it shouldn't be looked over because of someone's personal feelings. He is a manager and needs to disciplined for breaking the policies and procedures that he agreed to uphold when he took the job. 

    Is your surveillance system recorded? If so, there's your evidence! 

    Please, don't loose your job over "personal feelings"! Not only will you get terminated from that company, but it will look horrible for future jobs in the same field and you most likely will have a hard time finding another job!

     

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