(Closed) This is why…

posted 5 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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1562 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

My mom was so worried about getting pictures to her coworkers the week after the wedding that she bought a disposable film camera.  

Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

@PizzutiStudios:  +1 million.  It’s honestly really sad to me. We used to pride ourselves on being able to capture candids of guests, and it’s gotten so much harder to do without them having a devices of some sort in their hands.  And this article doesn’t even address the worst of the worst of the very worst – the iPad. Now it looks like people have small TVs attached to their faces.

Post # 5
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

I think the post is true and also kinda funny/sad. I’m only 1 year into this (and only second-shooting so far) but I’m already well aquainted with Uncle Bob, or more common for me, Aunt Cathy. 

I do wish it was more specific on the costs though. I think that the chart is interesting but it is really easy for people to blow it off with big generalizations like “why is he talking about his car? I have a car too, everyone has to pay for that!” and “Why is he including his computer? Who doesn’t have a computer?”. I agree with what he is saying but I think he was so general about it that it won’t really have an impact on people who haven’t really researched the costs of the business. 

Post # 6
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Blushing bee

Wow, thanks for posting that article. I’d always thought that a bunch of cameras during the ceremony and reception would be kinda tacky in photos, but man, now it just seems irritating.

Post # 7
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: April 2012

interesting article.

Post # 9
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

@PizzutiStudios:  If you wouldn’t mind, could you explain where 10k/month goes? As someone who is just starting out, I don’t really fully understand all the costs yet and I’d love to know what things I”m not thinking of!

Post # 10
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: November 2012

I hate the Ipad in the aisle thing!!!!

Post # 11
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

I appreciate you posting this, and I am so glad I had such wonderful photogs.  They were well worth the cost (even though they were “over budget”).  And if I had the choice to do it over again, hands down, I would choose the same photogs.

That being said….I often read on photog blogs how pro photogs are “giving up” becuase they can’t compete with the schmoe on Craig’s list who charges $500 for a cd.  And likewise, I have heard folks criticizing girls who went with the $500 craigslist dude and ended up with crappy photos (i.e. “you get what you pay for”).

No one wants to go for the budget craigslit photog.  (At least, I doubt it.)  We all want to be able to afford the $15K photog with amazing photos.   But we aren’t made of money.  So many posts on WB are about how to cut costs….and I could tell you how to make every wedding-related “thing” (ipod vs dj, DIY booze, state park reception, etc) cheap EXCEPT for a photog.  And I was very lucky in that I was able to pick up a temp job that paid for our photog (we could not have afforded one otherwise).  But, if I did not get that temp job, I would have been stuck.

What is the pro photographer business doing to address the concerns of budget brides?  (I know that the members here aren’t necessarily the “business”, but I’d love to hear some insight.)

EDIT: And yes – I am still asking this question after reading the blog and the breakdown of how much work the photogs do.  I really do understand…and in no way am I trying to imply that photogs don’t work very hard for their fee….but the bottom line is that, in many cases, those fees are still very unattainable by “budget” brides.

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

exactly why we put up a sign for nobody to take guest pictures during the ceremony.  Best decision of the entire wedding.  My photographer thanked me for it later, and I felt that it made the guests more involved with our ceremony.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

@Rock Hugger:  “What is the pro photographer business doing to address the concerns of budget brides?  (I know that the members here aren’t necessarily the “business”, but I’d love to hear some insight.)”

What are we supposed to do?  Costs of doing business are not getting any lower.  People want and expect more for less money.  Just today I think we had three inquiries for brides looking for our pricing with a $2000 budget ceiling for prime dates in 2013.  I’m not suggesting that’s chump change, but when you factor in our own costs of doing business and the time we put in to each event it’s not a pretty picture even at that rate.  We start at $2500, and that doesn’t include much but a few hours and a disc.  And that’s a better deal than we were a couple of years earlier.  Sadly a defect of the economy which we all hope improves.  A $500 budget isn’t just realistic for any professional wedding service like photography.  

That being said things also very much depend on your expectations.  I have no problem being confident that I can offer an experience to people that far far surpasses anything a $500 photographer is capable of.  It usually comes down to how much do you want that experience, how badly do you want great images?  How discerning is your eye?  I look at a $500 Craigslist photographer and I’m usually aghast as what they pass off as work, but that isn’t to say that some may think their work is incredible, be satisfied with it, and not regret it later.  I think those folks may be rare, but I’m certainly not passing judgment on them.

We do our best to meet people’s budgets when it’s applicable, but if you’re not talking about a December or January wedding, or something during the middle of the week it makes no sense for us to book someone at a much lower rate when we can book the date at our full price to someone else.  I prefer working with a lower $ booking if it’s someone who loves us and our work versus a higher $ booking that just looks like us as a vendor, but ultimately our bills need to get paid.  The problem is when you start making major concessions in price people tend to walk all over you and expect that they are entitled to more discounts down the road rather than appreciate that you’re making sacrifices for them.  Sadly that’s been our experience with reducing rates or catering to a lower budget.

Since I don’t have any way of lowering my own cost of living without making sacrifices to our modest way of life the best we can do is split payments, offer photography registries, and lend our advice on where money can be better spent.

 

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

We didn’t have the annoying guest photos, we spread a the word that we prefered that photos not be posted on facebook through immediate family, so I think that kind of helped during the ceremony. We also had an AMAZING photographer. I loved her so much! 

DH and I were at a wedding last month and the guests were so annoying with their huge cameras. I could barely see myself because there was nearly always a camera in front of me.

Post # 15
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Bumble bee

There will be a note on the invites that we are not allowing outside photography. 

The only people with a camera will be my three photographers.

Post # 16
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Bumble Beekeeper

Honestly whilst it is annoy I also thing it is part and parcel of a professionals job to have to deal with this sort of thing without complaining about it to their market.

I mean what if a bridal salon starting posting articles about how annoying brides were to deal with?

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