(Closed) This is why some of us get mad when others BUY a dog

posted 7 years ago in Pets
Post # 3
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2011

@menobride: Amen to that.

And if you really want a specific breed and want to buy a puppy, DO YOUR RESEARCH.

Buy from a breeder who health tests (OFA, CERF, etc) and shows their lines.

Doesn’t breed before their dogs are championed and breeds rarely and for a reason (i.e. they do not make a living by breeding and selling puppies).

Also, if the breed is not recognized by the AKC or other reputable kennel club (not Continental or Hybrid Kenel Club) then the dog is not form a reputable breeder.

Also, just because a breeder has “AKC puppies” does NOT mean they follow repuatable breeding practices.

Go to the breed club websites and read their code of ethics to understand ethical breeding practices.

Post # 4
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: January 1991

It’s not wrong to buy if you find a reputable breeder. I bought my schnauzer and he’s great! I saw where he was bred as well. 🙂

EDIT: I researched my breeder and made the best decision for me. I didn’t want to adopt a dog, I wanted a schnauzer. I think it’s great that people adopt dogs though. I’m not knocking that at all. Just a story from someone who bought a dog and did the things that you told everyone to do.

Post # 5
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2011

@kperry3: True, sad thing is that many irreputable breeders do a very good job at “appearing” reputable. Finding a reputable breeder can be a very hard and confusing road.

Especially those who breed all the “doodle” crosses (i.e. poodle and anything else).

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2009

@kperry3:Thank you and yes I agree. It is an age old debate.

I am disgusted by this and I understand where you are coming from. But we bought our dogs from breeders, not a pet store (never would) and I will never let anyone make me feel guilty for it. If everyone adopted and didn’t buy from breeders, what do you think would happen to those dogs?

Post # 7
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2011

@MissGreen: Probably reputable breeders would do well while the commercial/back yard breeders would lose their market.

If you truly do your research and know your breeder health tests and shows their dogs, there is NOTHING wrong with buying from a breeder.

There will always be demand for high quality show dogs and working dogs of certain breeds.

Post # 8
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2009

@KatNYC2011:Well I appreciate that bc we do, do our research. I just get annoyed when I am told I am wrong or bad for “buying” our dog. Not directing this at the OP, just this comes up alot on the bee and this is always an issue.

Post # 9
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2011

@MissGreen: I don’t think there’s anything wrong with buying a dog if you do it right.

There are reasons to want a specific breed from a breeder. For example FI has always had Pulis, there are so few puli breeders and they can have temperament problems so you want to make sure you are getting your dog reputably.

What kind of pup do you have?

Post # 10
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2009

@KatNYC2011:We have 2 labs. And our puppy we have now, we do want to send to a trainer to be a help dog. We tried with our older Chocolate, but he is just way to skittish that we can’t get it out of him for some reason.

Post # 11
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

@MissGreen: AMEN!!!! I bought a Burmese cat from a breeder that has now become a friend of mine…i know her practices are sound and i’ve had TERRIBLE experiences adopting cats, which i’ve talked about in another thread so I won’t repeat here.

Guilt tactics never work for anything.  Its one of the things I hate most about PETA and other animal welfare organisations – they lump pet purchasers all into the same category and guilt trip all of them.  Doesn’t work on me!

Post # 12
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2011

@MissGreen: I love labs. I grew up with goldens so I’ve always had a soft spot for big dogs who have really kind/smart personalities.

What kind of assistance dog are you trying to train the pup to be? Seeing eye? Or another type of medical assistance/companion animal?

Post # 13
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2011

@ScarletBegonia: Exactly! I hate PETA. I think they really do more of a disservice to animals.

I’d much rather support the ASPCA, local humane societies, and local breed clubs/breed specific rescues before I give a dime to PETA.

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2009

@KatNYC2011:Both actually, till we see what he is best with. I actually work as a nurse in a nursing home and we have companion dogs come in  a couple times a month and you would be amazed at how much it brightens everyone! Not only that but I’ve seen some dogs that were able to help stroke victims with certain daily tasks that they maybe didn’t have the strength for. Our yellow lab puppy is extremely smart already and such a gentle giant that I think he would be perfect for it.

Post # 15
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: March 2011

MO is on the front lines of the puppy mill battle.  This is a horrible story, but nothing new – at the DC shelter we VERY regularly get dogs rescued from puppy mills in the carolinas and west virginia. 

I personally see no need to buy a dog – they aren’t comodities.  I don’t support dog shows or making money off them.  My dog was $187 at the shelter.  She’s perfect.  People stop us and ask us where we got her.  She’s a perfect ambassador for shelter dogs. 

I don’t care if people do, but generally the type of dog most people want can be rescued. If they want to support the industry, it has nothing to do with me.  Most people (not specific people here) are lazy and don’t care where their pet comes from as long as it has a look, which is why puppy mills are so successful.

@KatNYC: My parents are on their second Puli.  There is a rescue – the Puli Club of America has rescues all the time (they’re listed in the newsletter, too), we have a family friend who had one that had to be put to sleep (he was old).

Post # 16
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2011

@MissGreen: Sounds like it. Our last golden would have been a great companion dog. I’m kind of sad we never got her into it.

She was SO gentle, so smart, and so loving. All she ever wanted to do was be close to people.

It really is amazing how animals can brighten your spirits.

I know it’s nothing nearly as serious of a stroke, but I currently have 2 slipped discs in my back (and FI is away on business for 3+ weeks) and just having my cat sitting near me on the couch helps make me feel better and less isolated/lonely.

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