Post # 1
Oh the irony… Is it just me, or does anyone else feels the same? People who can afford to have children and raise them in a good home often choose not to have children. And those who can’t afford them (unemployed, on benefits ects) pop them out like tic tacs… Contraceptives can’t be that expensive right????
Post # 3
Except contraceptives are (at least in the US). The pill can be challenging for some since it requires a daily dose at the same time of day. More lasting methods cost much more up front, and not a lot of folks have a spare few hundred bucks lying around.
And of course there’s a lack of education prevalent among those who can’t afford children.
And when you look at the world, it’s worse. Think of India. There is little available education and birth control, so the population booms.
Post # 4
@bowsergirl: Agreed. Lack of education is a huge issue.
Plus it seems like we are at our most fertile when we are least likely to be able to care for babies (i.e. as teenagers). By the time you are well established and start TTC, it can be difficult.
Post # 5
@bowsergirl: I dont know if I agree 100%
I have health insurance and my
friend has Medicaid. She is covered for more types of birth control then I am. She CHOOSES not to use them and she has 3 kids. She doesnt seem to care bc there is every form of assistance to her thus making it fairly easy to raise them.
I think if people didnt have so much available to help them they wouldnt be so quick to have kids. I work for the federal government so I see it every day.
Post # 6
I don’t we should be judging on who and who doesn’t have kids. We don’t know people’s situations other than an cursory outside look.
Post # 7
@azzie17: Maybe the former are as wealthy as they are because they don’t have children. A child is the biggest investment a person can have.
Post # 8
@Sassygrn: +1 everyone’s circumstances are different, for ex: I’ve tried tons of pills which made me extremely sick and depo which gave me a period while in the military for 3 months straight (talk about the misery), and I know sum ppl hav gotten preg while on bc! So everything isn’t as crystal as it seems
Post # 9
I just want to say, having money doesn’t automatically mean those children would be raised in a good home, nor does not being “wealthy” mean they would be raised in a not so good home. My DH and I are far from well off, think borderline needing assistance even though we both work (thanks to a granishment from not proper insurance when DD was born) yet, my almost 2 year old is an amazingly smart, caring and immensly loved child… money doesn’t raise children…
Post # 10
@azzie17: it’s like the movie idiocracy!
Post # 11
I get what you’re saying, I really do but it isn’t always that simple. Some great people who would make amazing parents have tons of trouble having children. Some people who really shouldn’t be parents can’t stop having kids. Life is just unfair like that. I always say “Life is hard and it isn’t always fair. Get a helmet and a diaper and buckle in for the ride.”
Post # 12
@azzie17: @bowsergirl: Birth control is expensive. As a broke college kid, when we were between insurance companies, I was dropping about 40 for a month of pills, that was a lot at the time. There was a reason we didn’t have insurance then. With the insurance I have now, I don’t have to pay, but I also have the generic version of the generic brand. When I was on Seasonique, with insurance, I was paying over 50 for each pack. It sucked. My mom had always been of the opinion that contraceptives were so readily available, why does no one use them. Then she saw how much I had to pay for mine when we were in that situation.
Post # 13
I really can’t afford to pay $30+ a month for pills. I don’t qualify for medical assistance (because I am not a citizen or in the states longer than 5y)
We have 3 kids, our youngest one is 16months and she was not planned. My son was 9months old when I got pregnant with her, and yes, our fault for not being careful. I was fully nursing him still at that time and I didnt have periods, well turns out I ovulated that last time and got immediately pregnant.
We live in a 2 bedroom house whch is too small for us right now. But luckilyit’s ours and mortgage is pretty low. Our plan is make our attic liveable so the kids can have both first floor bedrooms. But because money is tight we can’t right now. We will have to wait until tax return.
We manage. It’s not ideal and we live pay check to pay check but at least we can do it without getting any assistance from the state.
Post # 14
Its really interesting to hear everyone’s opinions and thoughts about the subject matter. Of course each individual is different. Not saying that only wealthy people should have children, because that is just plain wrong. (Lol, I mean, look at Kris Jenner right?) I just get really annoyed when I hear stories like the one I posted above. After your, I dunno, 4 or 5th child, you should know you cant afford anymore! So maybe contraceptives are expensive, but isnt having another baby EVEN MORE expensive?
I feel sorry for the children. Their quality of life cant be very good.
Post # 15
@Aelie: Having three children is a perfectly reasonable number. I come from a family of three siblings and I love it. And kudos to you for working to provide the best for your family withouy state benefits… Hardworking parents set a good example for their children. I can imagine those brought up with state benefits will also grow up to be reliant on state benefits. Sad but true.
Post # 16
My SO and I have agreed that we won’t have any children of our own and recognize all of our options, the most likely is that we will volunteer with and/or financially support less fortunate children. I am very interested in starting a scholarship for underprivilaged children to attend college, hosting students who may have not been able to attend school elsewhere, and starting a fund for prospective adoptive parents (if my SO and I become wealthy enough to do this). We’ve also talked about being foster parents for older children and/or adopting (if we get stable enough and can provide the life we feel will benefit children).
I think too many people like my SO and myself who are educated are much too aware of all that comes with raising a child both financially and emotionally. We also are more aware of the world’s state and wish to help counter the impact humans have had on it by not having our own children.