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Bowties bowties bowties.
Use the James Bond argument. Works like a charm.
NICE Scissors! I didn't even think about that! We've also been having the pinstripes debate. ugh. I argued "we aren't the maffia" I don't think he appreciated that, but again, I am going for timeless and he just isn't giving me anything here to work with! LOL
You're thinking tuxes with bow ties, right? I went through the same sort of thing trying to get black tuxes and bow ties. At first I did the plead/tell/whine/etc, but that never worked. :p
The stuff that *did* work:
1- Tux without a bow tie... why not just wear a black suit?
2- Classic
3- No look-back-and-regretting
4- James Bond. Duh. :p
I know there were some other things I used, but just throwing in a whole lot of "Oh, you'll look crazy hot!" works so well. Say positives about your stuff rather than negatives about his. (I feel like that sounds so after school special... lol)
I get your arguement on the subject, but I see it as "he's wearing it". My fiance wants to wear a kilt, and while I wasn't keen on it to begin with we used a scale of 1-10, 10 being REALLY want to and 1 being not so important. He rated it really high. It was important for me that he have his dream wedding too. So Mr. JB is wearing his kilt, and now that the decision is made I love it because A) it's what he wants B)it's in honor of the name we're taking. C) he still keeps me in the loop about all the accesories, but for the most part it's up to him. Could you compromise by letting him wear a tie and letting his groomsmen wear ascots or bow ties?
LOL I tried telling him that it just looks more classic and that I didn't want to look back 5 years from now and go "what were we thinking?!" I agree with the whole wearing a suit thing. Um, hello it's a wedding and we are getting tuxes so no pin stripes. We're doing navy vests and ties (I'm thinking about just calling the place and telling them bowties. lol) I just really think he will be happier later on looking back. (does that make sense?)
"Oh honey, they must have got the order wrong!"
I swear to God I'm not really this manipulative all the time. :p
LOL. At one point he did say it was up to me...and then he talked to his friend who got married 2 years ago. His friend told him "you're supposed to pick the tuxes dude" (I swear he said it just like that) and then it all went down from there. Hubs tried telling me he wanted camo. I about had a heart attack. I told him that would happen over my dead body.
@scissors OMG I love your list!!!!
:)
I am so glad my future hubby WANTED bow ties!!!!
EW!!! Scissors!!!
See why I told him no on the camo?! I got his mom in on the no camo too...she said "we aren't trying for My big Redneck Wedding!!!!" Oh, the camo war...
That's exactly why we're choosing bow ties FI wants to look like James Bond. Love that movie!
@Lily- Oh, I have seen some amazing ones IN PERSON. Mr. Scissors is from Germany, and I took him to the WalMart in LaGrange at about midnight for some random thing. (Only place open. I think it might have been 'pons). ANYWAY. It was prom season, and we saw MULTIPLE kids with camo tuxes and the hunting-orange vests and bowties on. And canes shaped like rifles. It was simultaneously AMAZING and shocking. Oh yeah, and the girls in either matching hunting orange or camo.
It was an experience for both of us. :p He definitely knew he wasn't in Deutschland anymore.
What about a compromise. He can wear a regular tie and the Groomsmen can wear the bowties.
Without knowing much, I am pretty sure there are more fancier versions of ties....that way it won't feel like a 'work' tie. Not that I know anyone who wears a tie to work.
I love bowties but Dh thinks they're not cool (i think b/c he had to wear a red one with his military uniform) so we went with regular ties. Dad channeled James Bond and wore a bow tie, though.
My FI wanted bowties & I wanted regular ties. It ended up working out so he & fathers get a bow tie, & the guys get regular ties.
FI doesn't like bow ties. His one request was to have a long, formal tie. And a vest.
Yikes, I haven't been on here in a while. They're all wearing bowties. :) I talked to him about the James Bond thing and he said "ok fine." then smirked, so I think he liked the idea. However, we are going home on vacation next month and will be actually "picking" their tuxes then.
Which means now all we have left:
Officiant-then order invites (EEPS!)
Photographer
DJ
Then just enjoy our wedding. :)
Speaking for myself here.... 
I prefer "regular tie", when it comes to tuxedo, they have special ties that look very different from every day ties, or they have just a "button" for the collar. I think the bow tie makes us look older.
Then again, it's just me... But judging by the poll, it's not JUST me :))))
The groomsmen are wearing regular ties, and the Dads are wearing bowties in my wedding. Best of both worlds!
BOW TIE BOW TIE BOW TIE!
A proper tuxedo has a bow tie! A regular tie is more modern. Think classic James Bond- research how to wear a tuxedo- it is bow tie all the way. Good luck! ;)
@lily - im giggling like crazy because thats JUST how the convo with with FH. i made him an appt to go pick his tux, and as soon as he got there he called me and was like "OMG, baby! they have CAMO TUXES!!!" im like ... um. NO. next. LOL
That picture is awesome. I am loving it!
*I'm not a big fan of the bow tie--I think they're a bit goofy. But, when are you going to wear a bow tie, other than to your own wedding?! But ultimately, I think the groom should get to wear whatever he wants (within reason, no camo obviously).
oh and for the question - we are doing regular ties with vests, because i see bow ties and i think super formal black tie, which isnt what we are doing - its black tie optional. and plus i always think prom with bowties and cumberbunds or UVA students at a football game with seersucker suits on when i see bowties.
i think its a style preference? and i think it matters what kinda formality your actual wedding is.
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I need to know what you think, should we do ties or bow ties? I kind of lean toward bow ties, but he leans toward ties. I just really think bow ties are classic and timeless. Ties make me think of someone going to work. I have tried for advice from our families, but his family thinks "ties are more in style" (I don't want stylish, I want timeless) and my family seems to agree with me that bow ties are more classic/timeless. HELP.