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    starcharades    December 31, 2011   Philadelphia

    I know most guidelines say to tip 20% to the waiters but what if 20% is about 450 a waiter? Is there a more specific amount that is appropriate to tip rather than by a percentage? Thanks!!

     

    P.S. It's not included in our contract

     
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    JoJo Bananas    August 21, 2010   Santa Cruz, CA

    My caterer included an 18% tip on their services in our contract.

     
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    SandyToes    October 13, 2012   Manahawkin, NJ

    I know that my " tax and tip" is included in our overall price and the tip is set at 18%.  When I worked at a catering hall/banquet facility, we NEVER saw any extra money that was shelled out.  If you ARE going to tip at the end of the night, be sure it goes to each actual staff memeber. 

     
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    starcharades    December 31, 2011   Philadelphia

    @SandyToes:Thanks, what would you recommend tipping each individual person at the end of the night?

     
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    Schrutebeets    September 2, 2011  

    I think the total tip woulbe be 450, divided by the waitstaff.

     
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    starcharades    December 31, 2011   Philadelphia

    @Schrutebeets:No...it would be 7,000 divided up to equal about 450 a person.

     
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    bride2beIn2012    February 12, 2011  

    It's whatever percent total for all the waitstaff, not each person. So if it's $450 and you have 10 servers, they each get $45 not each $450.

     
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    CorgiTales    February 1, 2011  

    @starcharades: are you figuring on just the food? I would not include the other venue costs in your figuring...

     
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    EvaBostonTerrier    July 3, 2010  

    I can't imagine a waiter expecting a $450 tip!  That would likely be many times what they are being paid per hour.

     
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    soonerpsych    June 26, 2010   Oklahoman at heart, now in Southwest FL

    I'm guessing you have very few servers for a pretty hefty catering bill.  In that case, I'd think something more like a dollar amount per server would be appropriate.  As a server, we knew not to necessarily expect a tip based on the alcohol, tax or service charge, so I wouldn't calculate the tip on those things.  Like PP said, I'd specify how much you are giving per server so that there's no question who gets the tip and how much you are intending.

     
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    M.Ruder    July 2, 2011   Saint Louis

    Its definitely going to be split, but probably by the caterers.  Ours is just 20% of the total, minus taxes.  they split it however they like.  I'm not worrying about that at all

     
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    starcharades    December 31, 2011   Philadelphia

    @EvaBostonTerrier:Exactly. Thats why I am asking what I should be tipping.

     
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    M.Ruder    July 2, 2011   Saint Louis

    Our total bill will be $1300.  20% of that is $260.  We're having 10 servers, so that's $26 each.  Hope that helps any?

     
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    mrsmdphd    April 17, 2009  

    In a situation like this, you do NOT tip 20% per waiter.  You tip 20% of the total (or 18% or whatever you feel is appropriate) and it will be divided between the catering staff.  

     
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    reinab505    April 2, 2011   Indiana, US

    When I worked as a waitress it was at a restaurant that spealized in large groups. If I (I was the head waitress so i did this not the manager/owner) added in the 20% tip at the end of the meal and had help we split the total amount. As in the tip was $450 and we split 4 ways we would each get $112.50.

    My cousin works at a banquet hall and it's the same way.

     
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    EvaBostonTerrier    July 3, 2010  

    Not sure if this helps, but from Martha Stewart weddings:


    You can calculate the tip as a percentage of the cost of your total catering bill. Figure on paying about 15 to 20 percent of the amount for the banquet manager to share with the kitchen and serving staff. Another way to compute the gratuity is to offer a flat amount for each worker, which is often a more economical method, especially if your catering company is expensive. You'll want to give roughly $100 to $200 for the catering or banquet manager, $50 each for chefs (and bakers), and $20 to $30 each for waiters and kitchen staff, divided into separate envelopes. 


    This seems much more reasonable to me!


    Edit: It sounds like $7000 is equal to 20% of your bill (so about 35k total)... and divided among the staff, it equals $450 each.  Or am I looking at it all wrong?

     
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    starcharades    December 31, 2011   Philadelphia

    @EvaBostonTerrier:Thank you!!! That is exactly the info I was looking for :)

     
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    Schrutebeets    September 2, 2011  

    @starcharades: Snarky-ness not necessary. I thought you were saying 450 = 20% of your total bill, so I was trying to explain that you distribute the 20% by the waiters.

     
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    plantains    July 17, 2011   Live in NY, wedding in CT

    Just wanted to add that every single caterer I have dealt with in Connecticut has told me that you should always calculate the tip based solely on the cost of the actual food. No tipping on the alcohol, rentals, staff hourly costs etc.

     
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    HNeils    October 6, 1996   Teaneck, NJ

    Most venues charge 18-22% Service Charge, which they use to pay cost for wait staff.  That is why waiter do not see that money at the end of the night.   If you are being charge hourly for the staff then an additional gratuity to each server is appropiate. 

     

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