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    EvaBostonTerrier    July 3, 2010  

    Ok, so I realized this is totally random, but I thought someone might find this funny (or just completely gross).  That and I'm tired of working on the presentation.

    So I'm giving an hour presentation tomorrow to a group of professionals, and the topic is diarrhea.  It's actually about Clostridium difficile associated disease and a new drug that came on the market last month.  Basically, if you acquire this bacteria (which is more often seen in hospitals than the general community), it could kill you, so it is an important topic to discuss.

    BUT... my research led to me the topic of... fecal transplantation.  I.e. a relative donates a fecal specimen so you can use it to replenish you gut with "good" bacteria.  And per one of the articles I was reading:  the equipment needed for home fecal transplantation includes a 200mL bottle of normal saline, a 2 quart enema bag and a standard kitchen blender

    My husband thought it would be hilarous if I brought in props to demonstrate (with a candy bar) how to make the slurry.  Now I can't stop laughing everytime I practice this part of the presentation. 

    Sigh.... What a fun topic to be discussing.

     
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    sfsjcs    May 6, 2012   Tennessee

    Oh my !!! How funny, I see lots of people with C. Diff. and always always always make sure I wash my hands because hand sanitizer doesn't work !! ( I work at a hospital )  I think it's funny!!

     
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    linguo42    February 27, 2011   Vancouver, B.C.

    LMAO. Awesome.

     
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    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    Gah!!!! No poop is going in my blender!!! Good luck on your presentation though ;)

     
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    firsttimemom    December 18, 2010  

    I am going to boil all parts of my blender now. I will never be able to look at a brown concoction made in a blender the same way again. 

     
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    Mrs.Oat    September 3, 2011  

    OMG, I've read about this... it's such a gross yet simple treatment.

    Also, I don't think I can use my blender for at least a month without remembering this. Thanks a lot!

     
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    BoiledPNut    April 2012  

    OMG!  I actually got C. diff from taking too many antibiotics.  My doctor felt horrible!  But honestly, I would never do this fecal transplantation!  I don't know anyone who would actually donate either!

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    Ugh that's so gross!  Who would want someone else's poo mixed with theirs?  Barf.

     
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    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    @BoiledPNut: Hey mom you love me right? Can I borrow some poop?

    Ewwwwwwwwwwww!!!!! ROFL!!!!

     
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    jumpthegun    June 23, 2013  

    Ok geez anyone I know in real life who reads this will instantly identify me (if my ring and proposal story somehow didn't already)... So I have guinea pigs, and they eat their own cecal matter (different from fecal matter... I swear!) and if you have a sick piggy you're to try and get the cecal matter from a healthy one to feed to the sick one to replenish the balance in their intestines. So when fecal transplantation was mentioned one class (I'm a medical student), some people that knew about the guinea pig thing looked at me like I was a little less strange. And I looked at them like HA! THE PIGGIES ARE RIGHT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecotrope for anyone who is super interested...

     
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    Everyone has the C - difficile bacteria in their system.  It is only when you get exposed to someone with an active case and your own good baterial numbers are down or you take antibiotics that kill the good bacteria in your system and the Cdif takes over and overpowers.  This is so serious.  My dad has been in and out of the hospital 5 times in the last year from this.  He gets so dehydrated and a couple of times we thought we were going to lose him from it.  When he's home and on medication (which by the way was billed $2000 for a 6 week supply, he had insurance) my sister and I have to go in everyday and wash everything down with bleach.  Everything.  It is exhausting for everyone.  I'd donate and I'll bet he would try it if he gets it again.  Right now he also takes 2 critical strength probiotics to replace the good bacteria each day. (He also has MS so his system is even more compromised than most.) Thanks for the information.

     
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    paperumbrella    June 16, 2012  

    @EvaBostonTerrier: What's the new drug for C. Diff? I'm in the CV-ICU right now, and like half of our patients are on C. Diff precautions, so something new might be worth a try.

     
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    EvaBostonTerrier    July 3, 2010  

    @Kitty79: It's a really terrible infection to get, especially when it isn't resolved with traditional therapies.  I'm not sure if this would help you, but here is the link to the abstract.  Of course this isn't medical advice, but I would encourage your dad (or whoever talks to the doctor) to see if he would be a candidate if the issue recurs (asking never hurts).  Typically they want to screen for various transmittable diseases, so please don't try this without consulting with a healthcare professional!  Oh, and please don't think that I was taking the topic lightly - it's just the first I've heard of home transplantation instead of in a supervised medical center.

    @BoiledPNut: All the people in this study had recurrent infections lasting 6-23 months and failed traditional therapies.  Up to 20 bowel movements a day is possible, so I'm guessing it would even be hard to leave the house (and and having part of your colon removed and unfortunately even death can be complications). 

    Either way, I don't think I would be able to reuse the kithcen blender after this use!

     
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    EvaBostonTerrier    July 3, 2010  

    @paperumbrella: It's called fidaxomicin (Dificid).  It actually pretty similar to vancomycin PO in terms of efficacy and safety.  It's a 200mg tablet given BID with or without food x 10 days and it has very low systemic absorption (which limits side effects).  The phase 3 clinical trials showed non-inferiority with vancomycin 125mg PO QID, but decreased rates of recurrence, particularly with certain strains of C. diff.  It's not in the guidelines yet because it's so new, so I don't know where it will fall in terms of place in therapy. 

    I wouldn't expect to see it too commonly in hospitals yet though.  A 10 day course of therapy is about $2800 (compared to <$60 if your hospital uses IV vancomycin orally).

     
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    socalmeli    September 17, 2011   Los Angeles, CA

    I DID A PRESENTATION ON THIS TOO!  I'm dead serious.  I did it at morning report while everyone was eating breakfast and found an article that went step by step (blender and all) but they did it via NG tube!  Yucky yucky and I totally grossed out every attending but it was my fav presentation thus far :P  

     
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    babygirlz    December 16, 2011   pa

    Cry @EvaBostonTerrier:

     
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    MademoiselleL    August 24, 2012   Vancouver, BC (wedding in Maui)

    OMG that is so gross!  Bahahaha.

     
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    ItsHollyAgain    May 26, 2013   Cleveland, Ohio

    @EvaBostonTerrier: I actually was just on Dificid!! It worked wonders. The first antibiotic seemed to help but then stopped and things seemed worse than before. Having C Diff has been awful,and really compromised my graduate school career. On the plus side, my partner has taken such amazing care of me and we've found ways to somehow laugh about a lot of this. I highly recommend Dificid and there were not a lot of side effects at all. My partner is a nurse and he was not familiar with it, so he thought it was interesting to read about. I will say as a warning that a lot of pharmacies don't seem to stock it. The pharmacy that i use didnt have it adn the part time pharmacist (not the full time two that I love) was a jerk and basically said my dr should not have prescribed it b/c no one has it. However, that's another argument. Also glad you put the price here - it would have been about $3,000 if I didn't have insurance. If I didn't have insurance, I would have gone into the hospital to get IV px of something else. Even with all that I had to get IV fluids at home, and was told if I got dehydrated my dr would not even pause before having a PICC put in (or highly suggested). Also, if I got malnourised I would have had to get nutrition help via a tube. 

     

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