Transition/Old European Cut Diamonds?

posted 6 years ago in Rings
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

i’m curious about these too. what are the main differences between OEC and RB? Are the old ones from a certain time period? Would you know the difference just by looking at it yourself?

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Honey bee
  • Wedding: January 1998

Ray Kay has one

Post # 6
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

I’m not a huge expert, but I’m getting an antique cushion so I’ve been doing some research. You can check out Old World Diamonds online if you want to look at specs of other OECs for reference. 

Basically, from my understanding, an heirloom or antique OEC would not have been cut by lasers, so the old stones aren’t quite as ‘perfect’ as the new ones. They tend to have chunkier facets, but the sparkle factor is I think a matter of opinion. I prefer the chunky sparkle of older stones, the new ones look a little too intense disco ball/mechanical for me (still beautiful! just love me some older stones). 

In terms of how big it’ll look comparatively, it varies. Your best bet would just to have the jeweler give you the dimensions. New laser cut stones have more constrained proportions, but older stones seem to be more versatile. For example, just looked at James Allen, it appears a 1ct RB often has face up dimensions around 6.3-6.4mm. But with older OECs, you can see a lot of fluctuation. Just looked at a few on Old World Diamonds site, and I saw face up proportions of 5.9-6.6mm. So it’s individualized. 

Hope that helps!

Post # 7
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

There is a noticeable difference between the cuts but both are beautiful in their own right. The modern brilliant cuts have more facets and they’ve been engineered for light return. So the modern brilliants are super sparkly – we’ve all seen them. The Old European cuts have less facets, which makes for bolder, chunkier fire and refraction. Both beautiful – just different feels. I do love a well-cut OEC!

Post # 8
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

Old european does look smaller than round brilliant– it just doesn’t have the light return of RB diamonds.  It is possible to have OE diamonds recut to be RB, though you lose some of the carat weight, that’s what I plan on doing when I inherit an OE diamond. 

Post # 9
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Buzzing bee

I think the older cuts are beautiful.  I believe another difference is a lot of the old cut diamonds had “warmer” colors in the JKL range.

Post # 10
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

@AshleyR83:  This is definitely the case, though the more colorless can be found. I love warmer stones, so that’s another win for me with antique stones. 

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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

Are old European cut and old miner’s cut diamonds the same? Because mine is apparently an old miner’s cut…

Post # 12
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

I agree with the PPs: cutlet, bigger facets, tend to face up smaller & tend to be warmer (though the last 2 are just generalizing, it’s not always true). The other problem with “defining” OEC, is that generally all round cuts that are older than the RB are called “OEC”, even though they are not all OEC in actuality. There are a bunch of different round stone cuts that predate the RB, but they’re not all OECs.

Post # 13
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

@LizLemon:  Old European cuts aren’t the same is Old Mine cuts. The Mine cut is the forefather of the modern cushion cut while the European Cut is what came before the round brilliant.

I have a European cut center stone. I’m crazy about antique cut diamonds. It’s true that they don’t have the same amount of light return that a modern round brilliant has, but they do have a beautiful warm glow about them that I love.

Post # 15
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

anyone know anything about indian cut diamonds?

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