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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    I am trying to not freak out about this, but I am so disappointed. Here's how this happened:

    We are having an "after party" in the evening after our brunch reception because my family is very conservative and religious and they don't believe in dancing or drinking. FI and I like both, and the dancing part is especially important to him and his family. This seemed like a good compromise and I was excited to be able to celebrate twice!

    My mom broke the news to her family and they just couldn't get over the idea of her buying alcohol for the party, so she asked me if we would have FI's parents pay for the bar (just beer and wine for about 50 people) so she could tell them it was their thing and smooth things over.

    I asked FI to ask his parents about this MONTHS ago, but he has been busy and put it off. However, at the same time, we have been working on getting a musician for our ceremony that FI and his family really want - its a family friend, but he still wants us to pay out the kazoo because he's becoming pretty successful. 

    My mom didn't have $1000+ in the budget for a violinist, so FI asked his parents if they would pay for it, and they said they would. BEFORE he asked them about the bar. This really bothered me so I told him, please ask them about the bar soon.

    So he did, and his mom responded, "Wow, we sure are paying for a lot..." which upsets me because I really don't want them to feel that way. They said we don't need to have alcohol at the after party, that none of their family will miss it.

    Of course, my mom was more than happy about this because it makes things easier on her with her family, who is anti-drinking. She said that if people want to drink, they can go to the bar outside our reserved room and buy themselves a drink. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, that's a cash bar. 

    I know a lot of you will say it is okay to have a cash bar at an after-party but we aren't providing a drop of alcohol at our reception, so I feel like its different. I also feel like many of our guests will come to a hosted party in the evening at a restaurant/bar rightfully expected for their glass of wine to be on us. I feel like they will think its cheap or tacky that I am clearly wearing an expensive dress but they have to shell out for a beer.

    The thing is, my mom could pay for it, but she can't because of the family situation. His parents certainly could as well, but they already put all their eggs in one basket with the musician. They are also paying for our honeymoon and the rehearsal dinner.

    When FI and I talked about it, I told him how tacky I thought this was and how disappointed I am, and he thought I was overreacting and putting too much emphasis on the wrong things. He said he would try to save up the money to pay for it but he sounded none too pleased about that. I told him not to because it was clear he didn't want to, and we are both broke.

    So yeah. Cash bar it is. Yay.

     
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    hotchildinthecity    June 12, 2010   New York, NY

    Could your mom just "give" you the money and then you guys could just say you're paying for it?

     
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    otb    December 31, 2009   Chicago, IL

    Can you bring your own alcohol in?  You might be able to provide a limited bar if you can bring your own in.  You can get it cheaper usually.  Also, is there a way you and your FI can save up for it?  Especially if you can bring your own alcohol in, then you can wait till last minute to buy it all.  And by limited, I mean, I was at a wedding that served Bud Lite, whiskey, vodka, chardonnay, and mixers.  That's all they had.  Makes for a much cheaper evening by limiting peoples choices.

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    How about if Mom doesn't really "pay" for the alcohol...jsut gives you guys some money and then you decide what to do with it? You know, just so it makes her look better to the family. '

    Otherwise, is there any way you guys can save up some money? While i would feel exactly the same as you, it does sound like you have zero options. And i'm sure if you just explain to your friends (who i'm guessing would be drinking?) about the family situation, they'll understand. I'd be bummed if i were you, too, though

     
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    kjpugs    March 20, 2010   Indianapolis, IN

    Do your friends (or other people who will be drinking) understand how your families are? If so, they might not be as bothered by a cash bar. If I was going to a friend's wedding and knew their families were very much no drinks/no dance I'd just be happy alcohol was AVAILABLE because of the circumstances.

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    HAHA, i had to laugh at that KJPugs--I have to agree, if I knew the bride's family was that religious and strict as to not approve of alcohol and dancing, I'd be grateful just to be able to have one, even if I had to buy =]

     
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    Jacqi    February 28, 2009  

    You've still got 6 months before your wedding. Maybe you can cut back on Christmas presents, do something at home for new years eve, and skip going out for valentines day to save the money. How much cash gifts do you think you will get from your guests? you could always charge the cost of the alcohol to your credit card and pay it off right away with some of your gift money (although usually not a good idea).

     
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    worcesterbride    August 15, 2009   live in NYC, wedding in Worcester, MA

    I'm with kjpugs... given the family drama, I hope your friends will be understanding that a cash bar was the best you could do to please everyone. Could you disseminate this information through your wedding party/close friends?

     
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    AnnieAAA    October 25, 2009   Dallas, TX

    I second EJS, is there any way you could save money to pay for it yourself? I agree, like you said, that there may even be confusion when guests walk to that bar and that some may be expecting that this bar is part of your after party since it was announced as an option for those that would like to drink.

    Also, if you can/ can't bring in your on alcohol, def stick with beer & wine only :)

     
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    kjpugs    March 20, 2010   Indianapolis, IN

    Or maybe you could save up enough to buy drink tickets for a certain # of drinks (paid for before by you and FI) so your friends could each get at least 1 drink ticket?

     
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    quiche    May 2, 2009   Chicago

    I would try to find out if you can bring in your own alcohol - it would be dirt cheap for 50 people!  You could just get a keg & a few big bottles of wine.

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    *sigh* I seriously already feel better, seeing all of your support and advice. Thank you!

    Okay, so options: Yes, FI and I could save it up. The bar is per consumption, and with only beer and wine and quite a few guests not drinking at all, I don't think it would be much more than $300. Also, since it is per consumption, we don't have to pay until after the fact, so we do have 6 months to save it up.

    Having said that, FI really sounded displeased about that. He didn't get that I thought a cash bar is poor etiquette and thinks I am putting too much emphasis on the drinking. He said he would pay for it but he doesn't really want to, so I would feel like I should pay for it all my own, and it would be honestly hard to save $300 right now. I know that sounds like not a lot, but I'm a college student with a part-time waitressing job and I'm just scraping by. It wouldn't be impossible but it would be tough, especially in light of my recent speeding ticket (another thread) that is going to cost some money to take care of.

    My mom would not be okay with giving us the money with us using it in that way. She'd think its deceitful. So that's not an option.

    I'm almost positive we can't bring our own alcohol in - its a restaurant. They are also giving us a really good deal so I don't want to push it with them.

    I would definitely not feel comfortable using our wedding money for that reason. FI and I have already decided to save all our wedding money so I know he would not be on board with that, and I wouldn't feel right about it either. It's like our guests are paying for it, which is pretty much the same as having a cash bar.

    Drink tickets... I personally feel like those are kind of tacky too, though we are obviously in the tacky zone already. Sorry to be throwing the T-word around so much but at least its at myself!

    I do think that if we spread the word among our friends, they will be understanding given the circumstances, but I still think they will think its in poor taste and sort of weird. Especially since this is our after party... and aside from the dancing, it won't be much of a party in some of our friends' eyes. That's a little embarrassing.

    There's another option that I don't even want to mention, but I thought of it - my dad, who I have a somewhat strained relationship with and who will not be walking me down the aisle, is not planning on contributing to the wedding as of yet. I was thinking of asking for this as our wedding gift, but FI thinks that could seriously bother my mom, and I understand what he saying. I have also been saying all along that I don't want him to contribute financially because I don't want him to have any say, and so this is me being hypocritical. But it is an option...

     

     

     
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    moderndaisy    June 2010  

    Well, there's nothing wrong with a cash bar. I would never ever be upset if I went to a cash bar wedding and I would never judge a bride for having an expensive dress and a cash bar. 

    The only problem I see for you is the logistics - you mentioned people would have to leave the reception room to get a drink and you have a lot of drinkers in your family. I guarantee you they will all hang out at the bar and this might get annoyning. It's unavoidable, even though they are there for you they're 100% gonig to go get a drink, but the bar atmosphere is probably what they're looking for - something more social with alcohol. They don't mean to 'ditch' you, but I promise it will end up happening.

    Can you move the cash bar into your reception room?

     
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    Amani    March 27, 2010  

    Could your parents pay for part of the violinist and use that money from your FILs to pay for the booze?  If your mom was going to pay a few hundred (or whatever) for the alcohol and instead uses it for music, your FILs won't have to pay for more but your mom can say they bought the drinks?

     
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    Future Mrs. Martin    August 21, 2010   London Ontario Canada

    Wow this quite a pickle...

    I would go with the you guys save up and pay option of spread the word among friends! They can still drink - they just have to get their own booze at the outside bar.

    I am with the others when the say that if I knew your family was so anti-alcohol I would just be happy their was any available.

     
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    I think you can pay for it on your own- just take it out of the wedding gift money. Don't do something you're not comfortable with-etiquette wise. It's your day, you know?

    I think 1,000 is pretty steep for a violinist....? Did you try looking at schools?

    It may be too late- but can you just do dinner somewhere, and then have your reception somewhere else? That may be complicated- but then you would have two distinct parties. I've been to a few dry weddings and everyone left after the cake-cutting....

    I don't want to be a downer, just want to give some insight. You can figure this out!

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    moderndaisy: Thanks for your reassurance. You have a good point about the bar, but honestly I'm upset enough about that, I would really prefer to not have a cash bar inside the room glaring at me.

    Amani: That's a good idea but the FILs are writing their check directly to the musician.

     

     
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    sunnydebs    8/7/10   Washington, DC

    I'm doing a limited open bar for the cocktail hour, a champagne toast later in the reception, and a cash bar any other time.  I figure it's brunch and our guests won't be drinking THAT much, but if they want to, the option is there.  I struggled with its tackiness, but you know, when it all comes down, you have to face your budget.  It's much better to start a marriage financially sound (with maybe a couple miffed friends who didn't get 2 free drinks) than struggling to pay the bills because you had to shell out extra money for the bar.  :-\

     
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    ashleyjane    1/16/2010   Tampa, FL

    I'll probably get a billion disagrees with this, but if its only going to be around 300 dollars, I'd just save up and put whatever I didn't have cash for on a credit card if I had to.

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    sulaii211: As I said before, we don't feel comfortable taking it out of our wedding money. As for our reception, we are having a dry brunch reception earlier in the day. This is a separate party with finger foods and dancing.

    $1,000 is very steep for a violinist. Not to mention that we are also paying for his transportation, lodging and rental car. It's like he's Jay Z or something - don't get me started. But he is very talented and borderline famous, and he is who FI and his folks really wanted, and to be fair, its one of the only things FI really wanted, and they are paying for it.

    *sigh* I gotta get going on my day and stop dwelling on this. Keep your suggestions coming though, and thanks for all your help.

     
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    bvig    September 2009   wedding in NJ

    You're not having what most people would consider a cash bar.  You don't have to provide alcohol at a reception, especially a brunch reception and an after party is a completley different thing.  No one expects you to foot the bill for two receptions.  People are attending your wedding to celebrate the two of you and try to help you guys get started on the right foot.  They are not attending to try to make you struggle so you can buy them a beer.  You aren't being tacky, you aren't being cheap, you aren't being selfish and you're taking people as much into consideration as possible. 

    The most I would do is talk to the bar about providing a 'wedding special' so that people can have discounted alcohol.  Maybe even put a little cash towards it so they can have a discount and not have to pay 6-7 per glass.

     
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    MsMarch2010    March 13, 2010   Huntington Beach, CA

    I am hearing a lot about how your mother would be upset with contributing money for the drinks or if you asked your father for the money.  I feel a little like she may be trying really hard for you to have a dry wedding.  I only say this because I have a mother that is very over bearing and will try emotional black mail to get her way.

    I feel like you are focusing a lot on what your mother and her family might think than what you want.  Remember it is your day!  I would ask your dad for the money, your mother does not need to know every detail of your life.  Please focus on what you want and understand you can't please everyone.  It's your wedding day and you should do what you want.

    Personally, I am not for cash bars either as I like to be a good hostess.  I have attended weddings with cash bars where we knew the couple did not have a lot of money. It was totally understandable and it was just nice that the couple gave us a nice meal and entertainment.  People understand, especially during these financial times.

     
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    KMSull    August 7, 2010   Lexington, KY (via Atlanta, GA)

    ... okay, I'm going to be the rebellious one (I excel in that role in real life, too!). Honestly, you don't NEED alcohol anywhere. I drink MAYBE once a month, and don't understand when people get TRASHED 2-3x a week. College students, in my opinion, are really, really irresponsible when it comes to alcohol. It makes me insane. Of course, my grandfather was an alcoholic so you know.

    ALL of that being said, I don't think it's fair that your mom's family is pressuring her into not having alcohol. I'm well versed in family pressure- my mom's sister and mom are SO in into trying to just run over my mom every chance they get, and it really, really upsets me because they are MEAN. If your mom wants alcohol at the party and wants to pay for it, I think she should. Regardless of what her family thinks. They'll get over it. They need to get over themselves, really. It's just alcohol, and the percentage of people that drink over those who don't drink is overwhelming. If your mom wants to pay for the "per consumption" bar, let her.

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    Puggy    November 27, 2010   Southern Indiana/Northwest Florida

    What if you and your FI paid for a champagne toast? That's just a few bottles of champagne (or sparkling wine, yum). This way, you have given everyone at least one drink, and if they want more, there is a cash bar right outside your room. If people expect something to drink, you did your best. And with the economy right now, I don't think people expect to get as much for free anymore.

    Also, in the invitations, you can specifically say something like "Please join the bride and groom in a champagne toast after the reception." This shows the family members that don't like to drink that it is more to do with you than your mom, and for the others, it hints that you two took care of it. You are young and people don't expect you to be able to pay for a lot of alcohol.

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    KMSull: It's not a matter of "letting" my mom pay for it. She won't because of family pressures, and I'm not going to try to talk her into something that would make problems for her.

    Puggy: We are thinking of having a champagne toast, but I feel like that will actually be more uncomfortable for the non-drinkers there since the champagne will be passed around and there will be attention brought to it, you know? With a regular bar, its up to each person if they'd like to drink. 

    Right now, I am really thinking that I am going to figure out a way for us to have some wine and beer, whether it be bringing in our own (unlikely), saving up my own money to pay the restaurant (hard but possible), or asking my Dad (possibly problematic but maybe not... I will run it by my mom). Where there's a will, there's a way, right?

     
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    mrskesslertobe    September 18, 2010  

    I thought the idea of the toast was great. They could walk around with 2 bottles one with alcohol and one without.

    As someone whodoes enjoy having a drink or 2 on special occaissions I honestly wouldn't mind having to buy my own drink and having the toast provided and paying for the rest myself would be fine.

    P.S- I also wouldn't notice who is or isn't drinking so hopefully those who chose nott o drink alcohol wouldn't feel uncomfortable.

     
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    Jacqi    February 28, 2009  

    Are you specifically inviting people to this "after party", as in it is included in the invitation? Or are you just telling people about it by word of mouth? I think there is a huge difference between an after party and a second reception.

    Are your conservative/religious family members going to attend the after party?

     
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    twinstar    September 18, 2010   Southern California

    I really struggled with having a cash bar as well.  We're paying for the wedding on our own and I did not think that alcohol was an important area to focus on.  As i became more involved in the planning, i decided that I wanted to be able to offer my guests at least something.  We found a venue that offers 1-3 hours of complementary alcohol for a great price.  After that we're having a cash bar.  I have not worked out how to "announce" this to my guests, but I still have some time to figure that out.  Perhaps you can offer 1-2 hours of complementary drinks.

     
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    july112010    July 11, 2010   los angeles

    Im kind of in the same situation as you, and I dont really see it as "tacky". My dads side of the family is really religious and very against alcholo, but not dancing. My dad is paying for our venue, but he refuses to pay for alcohol. Also, the rest of my family would be upset if alcohol is present at all. I personally do not care to drink at my wedding, and dont really want people trashed there anyway. My fiance and I both agreed to not have alcohol there at all. Of course If people decide to find a bar and get their own drinks thats up to them. My brother did this at his wedding (a black tie optional wedding like were having)  no one was upset at all by it. I think if you and your FI want alcohol there thats one thing, but I dont think its necessary. I kind of dont get why weddings started becoming a place to drink for free anway, thats not the point. I already told alot of people its going to be a dry wedding and explained the reasoning, everyone thought it made sense.

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    Jacqi: It is included in the invitation, so it is somewhere between an after party and a second reception. In terms of the formality, its sort of along the same lines of a rehearsal dinner or day after brunch... but on the same day. Does that make sense? 

    None of my ultra-conservative family members will attend, though some more moderate ones may come. Regardless of whether they come or not, my mom cares what they think.

    Twinstar: We were planning on cutting the drinks off after 2 1/2 hours anyway so no one gets out of control. The original plan was to have beer and wine in our room, with the bar right outside for anyone that would like to get a mixed drink on their own dime. After we end the beer and wine in our room, people could continue to drink on their own at the other bar. This is at a restaurant so people will be moving around. So its similar to what you are planning but I don't think we can even have that now!

    I did a little research about what it would cost. At the restaurant's prices, and with the amount of beverages I think we will need, it will be right at $300 it looks like. If we were able to bring our own, we could do it for well under half - $136 - and that's without a liquor store giving us a discount for buying in bulk. The only thing is, because its a restaurant, I don't think they will let us bring our own, and if they do, they might charge a corkage fee. From what I've found, corkage fees can cost from $10-$20 a bottle, putting us right back at the restaurant's prices.

    Have any of you brought your own alcohol to a restaurant reception? 

     
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    Rosie Girl    September 18, 2010   Montana

    Would your mom lend you the money, and you could pay her back over time? Or could you guys save up enough money to buy wine (in bulk it can come out to like $2/bottle!) and then just ask the bar to serve it for no charge to the guests (our bar is doing this, we jsut have to pay a corkage fee, but we are still coming out way ahead of paying for it from them)

     
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    I feel like $300 should be managable and I agree with the comments that people will end up hanging out at the bar if they want to drink, which is totally not the point. Someone mentioned it before, but I think it would be great if your mom paid for part of the entertainment and then you can shift the alcohol cost to his parents. Also, what if you just asked your mom to help you with your speeding ticket so you could save the money. Really, $300 over 6 months accounts for about $15 per week, so you should be able to save that (with or without FI's help) by simply changing habits, eliminate dinner/drinks/shoping/smoking/Starbucks/etc. and you'll easily have the cash. If you need more time, I would suggest putting it on a credit card and paying off the balance in full as soon as it is due which should buy you about 20 days. Seeing as it is not such a large sum in the scheme of things, I think you should cover bar costs. I think I would feel a bit slighted if I were at such an intimate wedding with a cash bar even though I find cash bars fine for larger weddings. Just cover beer and wine or the first 2 hours and your costs will decrease.

     
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    twinstar    September 18, 2010   Southern California

    I think your idea of having beer and wine for a limited time is great.  Most people will be just fine with that, and if they want something else I don't think they'll mind buying their drink from the bar.  $300 sounds like a resonable amount of money to me.  Yes, you could save money by bringing the alcohol in yourself, but I don't think the restaurant will allow it.  Good luck!  It'll be fine.

     
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    blushingaudrey    November 8, 2008   Washington, DC

    I'm VERY anti-cash-bar, and am not ashamed to say (in this anonymous forum) that I think they are the tackiest thing ever--but I would not call what you described a cash bar, because you are not involved with it in any way.  It's like hosting a dry reception and people go to the bar next door for drinks (and pay themselves)--totally different.  Even though it's in the same building, that bar is open to the public and not associated at all with your after party, so I would just stick with that.  You are under no obligation to provide alcohol to your guests, for whatever reason! 

     
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    qasiaraine    8/3/09  

    I'm very anti-cash bar too...even though we inadvertently sort of ended up with one.  We were planning on just having wine and beer, which the guests did get for free, but our reception was at a restaurant and the bar (in a separate room) where people got drinks during the cocktail hour was still open to the public...so our guests ended up ordering other drinks and paying for them themselves.

    I don't think in your case having a cash bar would be a bad thing...like others said, you're hosting a dry event, but there is a bar in the location.  I also don't think it would be a problem having it in another room.  Unless the bar is really far away or you have guests who constantly need a drink and go through them really fast, I think people will get their drink and come back to the party.  No one hung out at the bar at our reception even though it was in a different room.

    Also, just cuz it's a restaurant doesn't mean you can't bring in your own alcohol (at least some).  We were able to bring in our own wine.  We had to pay a corkage fee, but we were able to negotiate a very reasonable "bulk" corkage rate, so it was still much cheaper to bring in our own wine.  Worth asking about.

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    Wow. This turned into my FI's and my First Big Wedding Fight, but we got through it, solved some problems and are back on the same page.

    I don't have the energy to detail how this whole thing unraveled and then got worked out but - there was some miscommunication. We figured some other things out. We are going to have the bar. (Yay!)

    *sigh* Weddings are tough sometimes! Thanks everyone for your support and advice.

     

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