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    MrsBell2B    April 24, 2010   Georgia

    So, I'm starting to get fed up.

    I lost my mother almost five months ago and I'm getting married in April. I've already faced the fact that she won't be there physically and other than my grandfather (who will be walking me down the aisle), I have no other family. And I've pretty much planned this wedding by myself, which I never thought I'd be doing. I always thought my mother would be my side. So everything is extremely emotional as it is.

    My FMIL is a control freak..always has, always will be. When we first started planning the wedding, she was very hands-off. She would chime in every so often with an idea, or show me something she found on a website occasionally, which surprised the hell out of me.

    But as clock continues to tick closer to April, she's been taking over. At first, I figured she was just trying to help me since my mother is not here to help, but it's getting really annoying. Not to mention, I'm paying for EVERYTHING (long story - see my other posts).

    Everytime I see her (which is like 3-4 times a week), she's found another website, or a particular design she likes. (SHE likes being the keyword) Or a type of favor.

    Last week, she picked out a way to word the invitations (after I dumbly mentioned my anxiety about a way to word the invitations since I have no other living family except my grandfather in casual conversations) as well as a design. I looked at it, and agreed to the wording, but politely said I would consider the design after looking around some more.

    Then the last time I saw her, we were all having dinner, and she mentioned that she found a website with suggestions about music (something the fiance & I still haven't decided on). Ok, fair enough. I'll take a look at it sometime.

    No. She thinks our first dance should be to Celine Dion's "Because You Loved Me." Um..pretty song, but I have other ideas. I politely explained that I danced to that song when I was professional dancer for my grandmother (who is now deceased) many years ago, hoping that she would get the hint. When she didn't, I changed the subject.

    Normally, I'd have no problem telling someone when it's time to back off, but since I've known this woman for five years, I know how that would go. She would completely blow up, and there'd be a huge meltdown that could possibly end in the wedding being called off, which of course is the last thing I want (not to mention all the non-refundable deposits have been already put down). She has an explosive temper and has already had a stroke two years ago when things didn't go her way.

    So to avoid unnecessary drama, I've found a way to keep things calm and rational.  I listen to her suggestions and then in the end, I go with what I think is best. Sometimes I take her advice, but add on my own flavor to it and tweak it the way I want.

    I've avoided the "This is my day & I'm doing what I want.." attitude, because his family already thinks I'm trying to go overboard. Overboard is the complete opposite of what I've done so far. We're getting married at a small chapel in the mountains that has a package deal that covers photographs, food, the cake, flowers, DJ, etc. The wedding coordinator at the venue takes the pictures (not the style I would choose, but we're on a budget), and at one point, I was considering hiring another photographer to shoot as well, since my attitude is "You only get married once (or we hope)..& photographs are something that we'll look at forever." But since his family thinks that would be overboard and most of the photographers I've found aren't available or way too pricy, I bit my tongue. I'm keeping everything really simple, and it's going to be a relatively small wedding (60 people or less).

    But now comes the issue..

    My fiance's youngest sister is the baby of the family & she is completely spoiled. She has a disability (moderate Asperger's Syndrome) and is extremely sensitive. I'm very aware of her disability and know quite a bit about other disabilities since my mother taught Special Ed for many years and am very sensitive to it. However, her mother tends to use her disability as a way to entitle her and she never hears the word "no." Even though I have several friends who probably wanted to be bridesmaids, I asked his two sisters to be bridesmaids and my friend from college. I figured that since I was including them, that'd be enough. Apparently, not.

    His youngest sister went to aesthetics school for about a year (a couple years ago) and while she was there, the school covered a brief session about make-up. Since she was determined to make it in the aesthetics industry, her mother went out and bought all these supplies, including make-up. A year or two ago, the fiance and I were going to go out for an anniversary dinner & had booked a hotel suite for us. His mother pretty much insisted that I let his sister do my make-up before we left, and I didn't have the heart to tell her no.

    I ended up looking like a five-dollar hooker. Dark purple eyeshadow..very heavy eyeliner..wrong color red lipstick. I'm a natural redhead and am very fair so it can be very difficult to get my makeup just right. I felt ridiculous, but put on a smile as not to step on anyone's toes. We took a couple of pictures and I showed my friend (who is one of my bridesmaids) and she agreed that I looked horrible.

    One of the kits the sister has is bridal make-up, but the sister has no experience in bridal make-up whatsoever. So a month or two ago, his mother and sister come to me and mention that they'd like her to do my make-up as well as everyone else's for the wedding. I didn't want a huge fight, so I just smiled and said we'd talk about it later.

    His sister hasn't been able to find a stable job in aesthetics & has actually moved on to another field & there has always seemed to be this underlying current of resentment because they spent all this money on supplies & it didn't get her anywhere. His mother's reasoning is, "She's got this $200 bridal make-up kit that she's never used.." But in my head, as harsh as it may sound, you can have the most expensive make-up kit in the world, but if you don't really know how to apply it, it doesn't work.

    So for the past couple of weeks, I've considered hiring a make-up artist to do all of our make-up that day as opposed to the sister doing the make-up. In addition to her lack of experience, it will be extremely chaotic that day as it is & don't want to feel rushed. I'd prefer that we all be able to just sit down and have our make-up done, and relax.

    When I mentioned it to the fiance tonight, he simply said, "Nah, that's overboard."

    I told him that a lot of brides hire a professional photographer, a hair stylist, AND a makeup artist if they can afford it.

    Then he goes on to say 'Well talk it over with mom and my sister and see what they say. If my sister can do it, just let her do it."

    I then reminded him that his sister has no experience with bridal make-up & hasn't done make-up in a while. His response: "Just talk to her. If she wants to, let her."

    Then I could feel my bridezilla moment surfacing.."Why? Of course she's going to want to. But this isn't about what she wants..this is about what I want."

    Him: "Because she wants to help and it'd be nice of her and saves money."

    I told him she's my bridesmaid and I can find her something to do if she wants to be involved. I have the money and finally came clean about how I didn't like how she did my make-up last time. He wanted to know what was wrong with it. I explained what I didn't like and he got fed up, as if I were insulting his sister. His final response: "Whatever. Talk it over with mom though."

    I really don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but I don't want to compromise my wedding for the sake of making someone else feel better about themselves. I really don't want to be seen as the bridezilla who wants everything a certain way, her way - but I think my concern is justified.

    Sorry..this was really long, but I just needed to vent.

     
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    qasiaraine    8/3/09  

    Wow...

    Well, normally I think hiring a makeup artist is completely unnecessary and just one of the many things that girls convince themselves they must have for their wedding...

    In your case though, it sounds like your options are either hire someone, or have your SIL do it (because if you don't hire anyone and just have everyone do their own, it would likely be insisted that she do at least yours).  I'm all about being laid back and think many people get too wrapped up in being perfect, but there's a huge difference in wanting to be perfect, and simply not wanting to feel like you look ridiculous and inappropriate.

    I would say if you have the money and feel comfortable spending it, hire someone to do everyone's makeup.  If you're paying for it, you don't need your fiance's family's permission.  If the family protests, just insist that everyone will be busy the day of the wedding and it would be too stressful for anyone in the bridal party to have to do everyone's makeup.

     
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    spaganya    September 4, 2010   Arlington, VA/wedding in Williamsburg, VA

    @qasiaraine - great idea about the saying "the bridal party will be too busy the day of the wedding - i would rather have them relax and not be rushed" etc etc....

     

    good luck MrsBell2b. sticky situation and i hope it all works out okay! {HUGS}

     
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    simpleandchic    November 27, 2010   Adelaide, South Australia

    Firstly I am so sorry for your loss, i know how you must be feeling, as I lost my Mum 3 years ago and also do not have any other family. Secondly I was outraged when I read this if it isn't bad enough that you have to plan your wedding without support from your Mum, but to have the added preasure of overbearing and pushy inlaws, when u are paying for the wedding yourself. I think you shoul hire a makeup artist and not ask anyones approval, its your money do what you want. I also dont like how your FI said ' make sure you ask Mum first' you shouldnt have to ask anyone. arghhh

    It's your wedding, its your money you dont have to ask anyones approval. this does not make you a Bridezilla.

     
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    scissors    June 19, 2010   Atlanta, Ga

    Yipes! This is a really sticky situation. I think you should hire a makeup artist and play the "don't want to stress her out" card. It's pretty bad that they're pushing all of this on you. :(

    Best advice is to just stay calm on the outside (even if you're boiling on the inside!)

     
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    cheerful    September 2009 - eloped  

    You need to talk to your fiancé: you have been more than reasonable and calm about all the meddling. He needs to support you. It's your makeup, god, you have the right to look the way you want to. It's not the sister's wedding.

     
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    pacos    February 14, 2009   California

    You wouldn't want to compromise your looks on your wedding day. And you wouldn't want to look horrible in all your wedding pictures. I'd say, hire a make-up artist.

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    Hire the makeup artist. Don't let this girl touch anyone's faces! Plus, you're paying...so uh, yeah, you kinda get a little leeway there =]

    Also, why are you reporting to his mom about YOUR choices for the wedding? He shouldn't be telling you, "Check with my mom"....it's your choice. sheesh. You don't have to do that, in fact, I think it's super annoying. Boys don't understand makeup. Just hire one! When FMIL brings up why SIL didn't get to do it, you can say that you didn't want to stress everyone out, it's easier (and quicker) hiring a professional, and when you went in for a consult, that they did an amazing job (seriosly a consult wouldn't hurt to get a trial makeover so you can see the difference). They will prepare your face for all day photos. Do you have sensitive skin? Can you rely on that?

     
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    Tanya123      

    Wow this is a hard one.  Well even if not the easiest for you, maybe understand that your FSIL's disability is something that not only your FMIL is trying to overcompensate for, probably is likewise for the whole family.  It sounds like that is what your FI is doing.  He doesn't want her feelings hurt etc. 

    I was upset for you that he insisted you talk this stuff over with his mom.  I agree he should be defending you a little more.  And he didn't notice how bad the make up looked the other time?

     I also like the idea of hiring a make up artist.  Since FSIL is a BM, can you ask her to do something more bridesmaidy that morning?  Something that would make her happy and forget about the makeup?  Maybe you can give her a timeline, and tell her she'd be great to help make sure you all stay on track.  If you've been a Bm before, tell her why it's so busy, and how you want her to be able to enjoy it as much as possible. 

    It gets pretty congested day of, and even the most organized ladies can find themselves running behind.  Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I'd recommend any Bms do the makeup for the bridal party.  It's too much.  As a BM I had to help a bride with make up once.  (Not even completely do it.)  And that was a little stressful.  We were starting to run out of time, and I still had to do my own makeup.  And then there is the pressure that you don't want to mess up the make up on a bride's BIG day.  I can't imagine trying to do all the makeup and that of the other girls, especially as a BM who has to get ready herself.

     

    Good luck.

     
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    pmerr    August 14, 2010   Rochester, NY

    Wow! That's quite a situation.

    I'm so sorry about your mom! It must be so hard trying to plan your wedding with his family.

    I have to agree with the others on a few things...hire the make up artist & you shouldn't be asking his mom what she thinks about your wedding!

    I think you should go with the whole "don't want to be stressed/busy on that day" card, and if you have to...do the "it's my day" thing! they need to understand that! If you're paying for it & you want it...you're not being a bridezilla!

    You really need to talk to your FI about YOU TWO making the decisions about YOUR wedding, NOT his mom! It's about what you two want & who you are. His mom shouldn't be deciding things for you.

    Good Luck!

     
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    Querida       Sugar Land, TX

    Hire the make-up artist.  Squirrel the $$$ money away from something else - it is worth it.  You may make some waves, but you'll just have to be firm and have something ready for SIL to do - I know she had her heart set on doing our make-up, but BM has terrible allergies and I really want her to _______________.

    The more prepared you are, the better off you will be in handling this and not getting frustrated/angry/going all bridezilla.

    If they don't back down, become a broken record.  I've found that this works with pushy people.  I'm sorry, I've decided __________.  And use that as your response to her further pushing.

    (((HUGS))))  I know this sucks.

     
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    finnaroo    August 7, 2010   DC (living in nyc now)

    i'm so sorry about your mom, that must be so difficult.

    i agree with the previous posters who say you should really have a talk with your fi about making decisions together, in generally and especially because he should be understanding/supportive/protective of you emotionally right now. have you talked with your fi openly and honestly about how hard this has been for you without your mom? he might not realize it, unless you tell him. i've had lots of conversations with my fi in the past that essentially are like, me: "don't you realize i need you right now to help me?" and him saying, "i didn't know, you didn't tell me what or how you needed" xyz, etc. being married means being a team, and he needs to stick up for you with his family.

    and, it's completely reasonable to hire a make-up artist so that the bridal party doesn't have to "work," especially since you're the one paying.   

     
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    PeytonL79    12/6/2009   DC Area

    I'm so sorry about your mom; that has to be hard.  I also agree with hiring the makeup artist.  Also, when I was reading your post, another thing came to my mind.  From what you said, your SIL would want to use this bridal makeup kit that she received what - a couple of years ago??  Makeup expires.  Powders can last up to two years, but a lot of other types expire after three to six months.  I would not want to be using old makeup on my wedding day.  Good Housekeeping has a good article online about makeup expiration -

    http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/beauty/makeup/expired-beauty-products

    Maybe you could use that as another reason why you should hire a professional?

     
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    JamaicaBride    May 14, 2011   Charlotte, NC

    Hire the professional MUA.

    It also seems like you should have a talk with your FI about where his priorities should be right now. You have lost your mother and his mother can't replace her...especially given her attitude. The fact that everyone seems to be making sure that they have what they want as opposed to helping you create the wedding of your dreams is a problem. It's your FIs family and it's up to him to tell them to back off. If not...continue to ignore anything they ask and do what you want...eventually they and he will get the point.

    Good luck

     
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    dookie32    October 16, 2010   Chicago

    I'm so sorry about your mom. I agree with what everyone else has said- go ahead and hire someone. It's not Bridezilla for you to want to look good on your wedding day! Your future MIL sounds like someone that doesn't take no for an answer, so I think the only thing you really can do is hire someone and by the time the day rolls around, it will be too late for her to do anything about it.

    I think the bigger issue too is the fact that your FI is putting you in the middle- which is very unfair. It's his family, and it's his responsibility to deal with them. I think he is trying to not look like the bad guy, and he doesn't have the right to do that. This is just the beginning of things to come if he doesn't start standing up to them now. He is supposed to be your partner and support you- not stand in the corner and let you and your FMIL duke it out. I would talk to him, and make sure he understands what his role needs to be. Good luck- I'm sorry this is something you have to deal with!

      

     
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    lisahorwitz       Miami, FL

    This situation sounds so stressful. The above suggestions are all really good. I'll offer one more. Suggest that the youngest sister do the makeup for herself, her Mom and her sister. You can say that it will help out with the timing. In the mean time, hire another makeup artist for yourself and the other bridesmaids if they want. To take it one step further, if you are taking photos before the ceremony, ask the photgrapher to start with photos of the groom and his family, so that they will have to be ready at least 30 minutes earlier than you. And of course you say that the photographer always schedules the groom's family first because everyone knows that it is the bride's big day, so you are not the bad guy! Good luck!

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    CupcakeSprinkles    October 16, 2010   Dallas, Texas

    The situation is poopy all around -- your FI shoudn't be putting you in the midde of this mess :( 

    Normally I'd suggest just putting your foot down, but these don't seem to be the most reasonable of people, so I'd take the next best strategy which would be to lie through your teeth.  Get your friend BM on board, and as another Bee suggested, tell FMIL and FSIL that she's very allergic and since you're hiring a MUA for her, you'll have the MUA do all the girls because the group rate's cheaper. 

     
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    MrsBell2B    April 24, 2010   Georgia

    I want to thank you guys so much for your help and kind words of support. It really means a lot to me and helped me face the facts.

    Yesterday, I decided to put my foot down. I was visiting with his family and the wedding came up, and I just went with it. My friend had suggested for the make-up artist issue that I just tell her that a friend has offered to hire a make-up artist for the bridal party as a wedding gift & that it's already been paid for. I went with that one to start out with and then just laid down the line: I'm hiring an extra photographer. (She wanted my fiancee's SIL to take pictures instead.)

    I used the "it'd be too stressful and chaotic for people in the wedding to work" excuse and she seemed a bit surprised but didn't say anything (or atleast not yet). She just nodded and went with it. So far, so good.

    Thanks again ladies!

     
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    sweetlovely    May 21, 2011   Bay Area, CA

    Aw, it sounds like things are ok! Good luck :)

     

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