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    Aubergold    May 2012   DC metro

    So my mom is getting married next month at 62, good for her.

    I haven't interacted much with her new hubby to be yet, but from the few times I've met him he's seemed like a nice guy.  So whatever.

    After months of tension between FI and I and his fam, his dad finally called my mom to kick off some cultural engagement stuff that the adults want to do.  Im not particularly keen on it, but whatever, I'll participate.

    So my mom calls me, telling me that FI dad called her but her hubby to be did most of the speaking b/c "he's the man"; she proceed to hand him the phone and this guy starts telling me stuff about:

    "how we should have the engagement party in NYC even if al my friends are in DC b/c all my mom's friends are in NYC

    we shouldn't get married within a week of FIs graduation b/c it's not a good idea (mind you, we've already agreed on a date with FI's parents  so WTF is this dude talking about)

    he thinks it's fine for me to pursue my MBA since his niece got a masters in engineering management from Columbia (dude, I didn't ask for your approval for my life plans, mind your effin business)

    how he is gonna call my FI and discuss the wedding with him"

    COME AGAIN?!!!!  Dude, who the hell are you!!!! I dont know you! you dont get to makse decisions about my wedding, YOU JUST GOT HERE!!!

    SO my mom and I GOT. INTO. IT.  She is my reoresentative, NOT HIM.  He needs to go somewhere!  She's like, well he's the man and your step dad so he has to represent us.  I told her this dude is not my father so he is not involved. PERIOD. She was livid.

    Background: my dad walked out on us when I was 5  and we've never heard from him since.  My mom is always trying to make her new boyfriend my daddy of the decade.  It's not happening this time.  

     

    Ugh, am I overreacting?  Give me it to me straight, I wont get snarky haha.

     

     

     
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    dance    July 23, 2011   Alberta, Canada

    Ok....yes he will be your step-dad and a part of your life in some respect because he is marrying your mom and if he becomes the "man of the house" (their house, mind you) then that is all good.  And good for your mom!  However, I don't think that you as an adult will probably ever really consider him to be a step-dad, but more as just your mom's husband.  And I see nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn't cause too much family drama.

    He is not your father.  He is not the one who raised you.  He does not know your life story and the way you have written this, he doesn't sound like he really even knows you or your FI.  Yes, you have met and visited, but that in my mind, does not constitute a fatherly relationship.

    So while I respect that you mom wants him to handle household business, I do not believe your wedding falls into that category.  In my mind, I don't think he should be the one intimately involved in planning your wedding because he really just came into your life.  I do hope this works out for you because I would hate to see you fight with your mom over something like this, but I have to agree with you.  I would want my mom as the representative and if your step-dad has a few opinions, that's ok.  But he would not be the one you should have to go to when you want advice or input from your mother.

    Good luck!

     
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    JenniMichele    May 22, 2011   Huntington Beach, CA

    Maybe since your mom has a hard time understanding, you can speak with her FH and explain things to him in a nice, respectful way?

    Something like, "I really appreciate the interest you're taking in my wedding. Thank you so much....but FH and I really do have the wedding planning under control, so you don't really need to worry about it or call him about it. We've got it covered."

    Then if he calls your FH, have your FH relay the same message. And maybe try not to discuss the details with him until necessary. Like after the decisions have been made/ deposits have been sent in. Hopefully he will get the point.

    As far as your mom wanting to make him new your "daddy of the decade" or him trying to give you his opinion on other things about your life, maybe just ignore it and hope they get the hint? But sometimes people never realize that if you want their advice, you'll ask them for it.

    Obviously you know better then we do if they're the type to take hints or if they're the type who need to be hit over the head to get your point. And no, I don't think you're overreacting one bit. I can imagine it must be really frustrating and super awkward!

     
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    MadiLove918    May 2011   Palm Bay, FL

    @Aubergold:  Woooow.  OK, my initial reaction was,"He doesn't sound so bad, really."  But then I reread it and from what I gather, he is totally cool with your MBA ideas but he wants you to reconsider your engagement party location and your wedding date, correct?  Is he phoning your FI specifically to try to sway him into changing your plans this far in the game?  If so, I think that's a bit out of line.  It's one thing to try to be supportive, lend a helping opinion, and try to find a comfy spot in the midst of the plans (you know, since he is about to marry into the family).  But it's also another entirely different ballgame when his opinion is forced upon you and other avenues are explored in an attempt to get his way. 

     
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    Aubergold    May 2012   DC metro

    Thanks guys.  I really needed to ask people with some objectivity cause I was literally losing my mind.  This is too much and my mom and I have a complicated history; when I was 8 she started having a long term relationship and pretty much forced me to call the guy "daddy" b/c he didn't have any daughters of his own (why that is our problem I have no clue).  When I was a teenager and realized that I had no business calling this dude daddy, I stopped and she (and he) got really upset.

    I resent any pseudo repeat of this in my life.  Im an adult, these people dont pay my bills, sheesh.  No more Daddy Day Care BS.

     
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    Aubergold    May 2012   DC metro

    @MadiLove918: at this point neither SO or I are taking him seriously b/c, well we think it's ridiculous and you're right, he is not being particularly forceful.  My issue is the precedent it sets and how much involvement he thinks he's gonna have going forward (IMO: ZILCH). Yes, he wants to call my FI to discuss with him changing the date (WTF!!!!!).  He asked me if the date was within a week of grad, I said yes, he said: hmmmmmmmm, that is not good.  I told him we already set a date, he seemed disappointed in this.  Again, WTF!!! 

    Of course, my mom thinks this is perfectly normal.  Lord have mercy.

     
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    mrsmdphd    April 17, 2009  

    You're not overreacting.  I have a stepfather, and he and my mom have been married for 12 years, and I still don't want him pulling sh*t like that.  Not okay.  Boundaries!

     
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    MadiLove918    May 2011   Palm Bay, FL

    @Aubergold:  LOL!  I love your commentary...  I totally feel you on this one.  If he wants to make a nice, comfy spot for himself within your family, this isn't quite the manner in which to make that spot!  At this point, I'd just brush it off your shoulders and carry on with your plans.  You've got a good head on your shoulders and you know what you want -- he can't touch that!  :)

     
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    sudslover       Northern California

    I agree that the graduate school business, the engagement party business and the wedding date business is not really his business.  Do you think he is involved because your mom and he plan to  contribute to the cost of the wedding?  I don't know but am trying to think of all angles here.  I totally understand your feeling with the replacement daddy business.  Maybe he's a nice guy and trying to be helpful but hasn't really though about how he is coming across.  Best wishes with this.

     
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    Aubergold    May 2012   DC metro

    @sudslover: thanks for responding.  Get this: my mom and him are not PAYING A DIME, the costs are being split between me/FI and his parents. I wouldn't take money from pseudo-dad-wannabe anyway, that's weird to me.  Im paying for this crap engagement party that I dont even want to have.  My mom is like "oh you are going to have to pay this much for the party cause I will need this and this".  Thanks mom, can you even give me 5 bucks, you want all your friends there......

    I dont think he's being malicious at all, he just really believes that it's his place to be directly involved and it makes my mom happy to have a man stand in for her in her life.  It's a generational thing.  I didn't handle it well, my mom and I flipped out on each other.  It was like all these old feelings came bubbling up and turned me into a banshee.

    @mrsmdphd: thank you so much.

     
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    Aubergold    May 2012   DC metro

    @MadiLove918: thanks!!!

     
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    sudslover       Northern California

    I understand the generational issue here.  I'm in my fifties and with my son's wedding planning, I'm learning a lot about how things are being done now.  My concern is that if you don't explain to your mom your wishes and plans (firmly) you may have more issues down the road, and that isn't fair to you. I've had to adjust my thought of having my whole family (kind of large) attend my son's wedding to allow for the friends who have become so much closer than many members of our family.  I won't say it's been easy, but I understand where he is coming from and will support his wishes.

    Just a suggestion, if it works for you --  lay out your plans for you mom in a matter-of-fact manner.  No engagement party because you would rather save your money for the things you really want for your wedding.  The wedding date is because it works out best for you and your fiance.  If you are walking down the aisle alone or having your mom walk you down  (if you have thought that far) tell lher that too.  In that way, she'll have time to get used to the idea and one less drama to deal with later on.

    I know parents can put so much pressure on a couple with regard to wedding planning, and if you present your plans to them firmly maybe it will help.  I truly wish you all the best.

     

     
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    sessaj    October 23, 2010   NL, Canada

    No way are you over-reacting.  New guy shouldn't even be asking to have the conversations, and your mom shouldn't be encouraging it.  Generational or not, once you explain your expectations / comfort level, that should have been the end of it!  I would have flipped out too.

    Sorry if this sounds harsh....  My parents split when I was 5 too, and my parents were both pretty decent about not letting their "significant others" over the course of my life try to get involved in our lives (myself and my sibs).  But when one tried to cross the imaginary line I had, I made it clear that there were boundaries, thanks, and maybe when you're around for a while we can play family.  My dad's been with his (now) wife for 16 years now, and she's obviously family, but for the first few years they were dating, I didn't have much to do with her.  If I had gotten married back then and she'd tried to tell me what I should and shouldn't do, I would have lost it.

    Good luck lady... I do not envy you this!  Stick to whatever feels right to you, and if your mom's new FI trying to insert his opinion makes you uncomfortable, you don't need to justify that to anyone! 

     
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    Merry02    June 2010  

    Wow. I don't think you overreacted at all. I would have flipped out if something like that happened to me. Maybe it will help if you try talking to your mom in a few days once you've both calmed down. Bring it up by saying something like, "I understand that you are marrying him, but please understand that I do not know him very well, and I prefer to hear from you in regards to our wedding."

    I'm sorry you have to deal with this, and I hope your mom comes to her senses.

     
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    Aubergold    May 2012   DC metro

    Thanks for the comments guys; sometimes I dont know if this engagement is a blessing or a curse.  There is just too much stuff to deal with and too many conflicing personalities to manage, at least at work I get paid to do that stuff.

     
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    danaadell    June 5, 2010   Austin/SA, TX

    it is a blessing.  just continue to remember that you are marrying the man you love. end of story.  honestly, the rest is just fluff.  :-)

     
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    Maggie Mae      

    Nope, you are not overreacting AT ALL!!  You are grown.  You are paying for everything without financial assistance from your mom.  And he's NEW ~ he just got there.  No, sorry.  He may be a nice guy, but he is out of line. 

    Do things your way.  Certainly he will be invited, but that's the extent of it. 

    Good luck!  

     
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    tootie664    April 6, 2013  

    I agree with you Aubergold. I wouldn't like it if my soon to be step dad started giving his two cents of an opinion either if he wasn't asked. If your mother wants to lay back and let him be the man of her house, then that's fine. But he shouldn't get it twisted, that does not make him the man of your house.

    I think you should just tell him nicely, "look dude, I appreciate your opinion, but FH and I are going to do this our way."

     

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