Post # 1
This is NOT a diamond vs. whatever topic, so PLEASE refrain from snarking on someone else’s opinion…we all have one. That’s OK.
After a chat with a friend, I had an interesting question for the Bee, or really for anyone in general. I know that some ladies love their diamonds no matter what, and some ladies absolutely will not buy a diamond because they do not want to support the diamond industry (and yes, I’ve heard the argument that buying a white stone and not telling is inadvertently supporting it…that’s not what this is about either), and that there are misc others who don’t fall into either category. My question is, is buying a ‘used’ diamond still supporting the diamond industry? I know some believe that buying antique or estate jewelry is the way to go for that purpose, is there an age limit on diamonds that makes you feel this way (like, you’ll only buy one that is over 20 years old)? General curiosity, a sincerely do not fault anyone for their own opinions…that’s what is so cool about people, we have that ability to think for ourselves 🙂
Me? I own diamonds, I own CZ, and I pretty much think all jewelry is beautiful no matter what.
Post # 3
My FI and I were considering a diamond from Brilliant Earth. We agreed we would feel good about their sourcing of the diamond and of the gold.
As it turned out, we ended up using a family heirloom diamond from 1907. We don’t know the source (the country it was mined in) but love the story and that it was in his family for such a long time.
Post # 4
@MerryWidow: I have no problems with supporting the diamond industry (almost all jewelers refuse to trade blood diamonds in the US).
That being said, I guess it depends whether you get it at a pawn shop/ Craigslist or used from a jeweler.
I would assume buying it from a jeweler would still be supporting the industry, while buying from a pawn shop (that sells everything) or on CL (just Jow Schmoe selling a ring) probably wouldn’t… Unless the pawned the ring to buy a bigger one!
Post # 5
Yes, it is. Less so than buying new, but not by much.
Even if it was a direct sale from one wearer to another (no industry middleman/middlewoman) the wearing of the diamond (or something that could be mistaken for a diamond) is the key aspect in supporting the industry. It sets social norms, and that fosters demand. That’s why companies are always giving celebs free stuff. We may not be celebs, but we have more influence on society and others’ perceived norms than many of us are aware of or want to focus on.
Post # 6
Lol good point about not if they’re planning on buying a bigger diamond, haha.
Ive read so many things that conflict each other my head seriously spins…people who say blood diamonds are rare, people who say the Kinberly process is a joke, etc. I would probably never again buy anything from a jewelry store again, mainly because they’re so much more expensive! The markup sometimes is crazy, it’s like buying a brand new truck…it’ll cost you $40,000 but you’d never sell it for that LOL.
Also, I love when people have antique or family stones and rings….because I love that there is a history there. I’ve seen them online and I like to imagine a couple like the one from ‘Up’ who were just so in love forever :0)
Post # 7
I would feel conflicted going out to purchase a diamond. I do own some diamonds but they’re mostly heirlooms. I don’t wear them really but I do feel odd considering wearing them. If anything with older stones you don’t know where they’ve come from! If someone died mining it back when no-one cared does that make it less a “blood diamond”?. Hmmm
If I were to buy a diamond I’d be more likely to get a Canadian diamond. I would research the environmental impact first though because I tend to disagree with mining in general (coal, oil, gemstones, metals etc) and use recycled whereever possible. I’ve heard rumour the canadian mines do a good job at that though which if true is good to hear 🙂
Post # 8
@joya_aspera: See, that’s where I’m torn so I’m interested to see opinions. If I had a Moissy, for example, I would never be dishonest about it, I would absolutely tell people what it was and that I chose it because of the anti-diamond industry feelings I may have (if that was my reason). But, I wouldn’t bother telling strangers the whole thing, even though they may notice it and like it (cashiers, people in line near me at Starbuck’s)…it’d be kind of presumptuous to announce it to anyone who might glance at my hand. However, if I’m doing my best to educate people about it…I don’t think I would be supporting the industry. Sure, there are people both strangers and acquaintances who may see said ring and decide they have to have one and go out and get a diamond, but I feel as though that decision is on them. If I happen to like colorless sparkly stones, I think I should have a right to wear one if my beliefs aren’t compromised. And, like I said, I own diamond rings from years ago before I’d ever heard the term ‘blood diamond’, they’re sentimental and I’ll never not wear them now…but that doesn’t mean I agree with what may have happened for me to get them or that I’d buy them again if given a chance. I don’t know, I think there are so many variables to the whole thing LOL.
Post # 9
- Wedding: August 2013 - Rocky Mountains USA
@MerryWidow: I don’t think that buying or having a used diamond supports the diamond industry. They were usually passed down or sold NOT to be replaced, but because someone needed the money or just wanted to pass it on. I have an heirloom ring and this is one of my favorite aspects of it.
@Anardana: I’m sure people did still die when the diamond was originally bought, but the damage is already done by the first person who bought the ring. By using the used one instead of a new one, you’re preventing an additional diamond’s detrimental effects.
Post # 10
@lolot: I agree with your last comment. Is it ideal? No. But I know people feel the same way about e.g., fur/leather. Wouldn’t go buy it new but if it was a hand-me down ….. maybe wear it.
Post # 11
@MerryWidow: I think that buying used still supports the industry, but to a lesser degree.
Post # 12
I own diamonds, ashas that look like diamonds, CZs, and an antique diamond ring from the 1940s. I do not believe the Kimberly project is eliminating the blood diamond problem. I think it is just making the criminals work harder and they will go to any length for their ill-gotten gains.
I don’t know what the solution is. I’d like to say that I would boycott the whole industry but I do not think that would have much of an impact and it would deny me something I truly enjoy. Globally I do not think we will ever walk away from diamonds. It is too engrained into multiiple cultures.
I’d like to think that my ring from 75 years ago is not supporting the industry but we do influence others with our decisions. I just don’t know.
Post # 13
Buying used means buying from a secondary market that is fueled by the primary market, so yes, buying used does support the diamond industry. I already think diamonds are kind of a waste of money, given that they are inanimate and don’t really serve a purpose other than to be a social signal (“Look! My SO bought me a really expensive useless item! He must be serious about our relationship!”) and to be pretty.
If I had known about Moissy before we got engaged, I would have gone that route. I have a very modern e-ring that has a small uncut diamond (ie very very cheap but also very interesting).
Post # 14
@lolot: Don’t get me wrong I don’t think it’s causing additional harm. I just wouldn’t want a diamond someone had lived and died in misery for. I suppose really it’s just like superstition.
Post # 15
I think you’re supporting the industry, but less so when you buy a used diamond. Most diamonds depreciate when they’re bought new (much like a new car depreciates once you drive it off the lot), so I think buying used diamonds is a smart way to go. I also think it’s a more ethically conscious decision, since you’re re-using something that’s already on the market.
Post # 16
@joya_aspera: +1. Wearing a diamond ring continues the tradition (or forces the obeyance, depending on how you want to look at it) that diamonds are the only stone that should go into an engagement ring (or even that you need to have an engagement ring in the first place).
The more people that wear diamonds, means more people will think diamonds are a must, means more people will buy diamonds.