Post # 1
I was going through some papers today and I read something on our venue’s intro pamphlet. It read, “the 20% service charge is not gratuity. while gratuity is never expected it’s always appreciated.” WHAT IN THE WORLD! that 20% service charge equals to about $3000. Where is that 3k going to if not as a gratuity?That would mean that I need to pay the servers & clean up crew an additional 2k on gratuity. To me this is just plain ridiculous.
Do they think because it’s my wedding day I have money to throw down the drain? I’m already paying $3000 for the service and cleaning crew. All in all they want about $8000 for the crew (hourly wage, service charge, & tip included). ARE THEY NUTS?! Including setting up and breaking down my entire wedding is 7 hours and I’ve only invited 140 people. I’m really considering just backing out of this contract. yea we’ll lose our 2k deposit but at least it will stop there.
Post # 3
I would just not tip. That’s really stupid.
Post # 4
Most venue’s I looked at said the same thing. One of the major factors in us picking the place we did was because they told us that the service charge WAS the gratuity and that it was included in their package price! Easily 95% of the others we looked into had a 18-22% service charge that did not include gratuity.
Post # 5
You don’t tip anyone until after you see the final product/service in action and only if they go above and beyond the call of duty. When you do tip someone, you decide how to much to tip them. It’s not their place to dictate a tip in the first place, much less how much they get.
Post # 6
- Wedding: June 2010 - Claxton Farm
Our venue said something similar, but was even more vague like “The service charge is in lieu of formal gratuity, but you can still tip if you want” (Not that, but something similar.)
I think service charges cover their employees’ wages (so they’re not working for 2.12 an hour and hoping the hosts tip 15-20% on food at the end of the night) and the “gratuity” is just anything extra above and beyond (maybe 20-50 dollars a server/typically-tipped employee depending on the formality/involvement/length of your event).
At least, that’s how we’ve interpreted it. I would absolutely not feel obligated to tip another significant amount…just give a little something extra if the staff goes above and beyond.
Post # 7
We’re lucky enough to have a mandatory service charge AND a mandatory gratuity charge. Yay us. Ugh. At least we know how to budget going in. And it is a really great reception spot so I think it will be worth it.
Post # 8
Farfromachildbride: That’s what most of the ones we looked into were as well. By the time we factored in the mandatory tip, service charge and tax it was over an additional 50% percent!
Post # 9
My Fiance & I were just discussing this.
In addition, do you tip the DJ? The Photographer? The Flower people? The limo driver? The Officiant?
For some of these people *The DJ & Photographer* the are independent contractors and are already charging an arm & leg that they get to keep without sharing…
What the heck!
Post # 10
my budget is already blown out of the water. i can’t afford to fork up an extra 2-3k on tips. except for my make-up & hair team, all the other vendors are in the business or themselves.
Post # 11
being a (restraunt)server… i can tell you theres a extreamly good chance these “servers” are not getting paid server wage ($4.15 hr in FL) they are getting paid a diff. per hr. wage by their company… i DEF. would NOT be tipping on top of this so called “service charge” aka the servers (wage) from the company…
Post # 12
Well, I can comment on this first hand as I work at a wedding/reception center. I am a banquet server, and already get paid a full wage, It is not lowered to account for tips. They say that the service charge is separate from gratuity as well. And, they encourage you to still pay gratuity. What they say is that the service charge goes to table set up, linens, cleaning linens, and what not. From what I have observed by working however, is that no way does it cost that much to pay people to set up tables and wash linens.
I wouldn’t expect anyone to pay us a tip on top of the large amount they are already paying. I get payed a full wage without tips. Also, if it helps to know, almost nobody leaves a tip. Ever. At least not where I work. It is probably different depending on where you live but my advice is to not pay anything extra. You are certainly paying enough already.
Post # 13
@cbott, that is an excellent point that catering servers are entirely different from restaurant servers and thus paid differently so you can’t compare the two.