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Sooo I have never been particularly fond of her. But never made that overtly clear- until today.
Soo her bf is a douche bag dumbfuk idiot, but it's not about him (though I can now see why they're a match made in heaven). So we all know we all need help- set up, take down, etc on the wedding day misc. tasks- you know how it is. I'm not being demanding on anyone but I am asking for a little bit of help from quite a few people instead of a ton of help from just a few.
My mom, aunt, brothers and a few friends are all on the helpers list. That's fantastic. I ask FSIL to help out not 15 mintues ago. Her response: prob not, I'm gonna be hammered. I ask "Seriously?" She's like yeah... I'm like your mom, and my brothers are helping... girl, that's lame. She says: Yeah, well I'm lame. Then it goes to shit.
I type a nasty little message "Wow... just wow" on my BBM (yes, it's visable to her). And her response is harder jab of: "Why would I help someone I'm forced to like?"
After that I deleted her off my phone. No response on my side for fear I'd freak on her ass and flip right the f**k out.
I've given her so many chances in my head to prove to me why I might be able to like her. I don't know if I can get over this epic fail.
Ahhh, end vent. That does feel real good to get out.
Disclaimer: yeah I know my little jab was childish but it's been 20 minutes and I still don't regret it! (usually I would already)
How do you really feel? Just kidding. There's no law that says family has to like each other and I'm sorry you don't get along with her... it sounds like it goes both ways. Maybe she'll be too drunk to make the wedding? Just avoid her.
LOL "too drunk to make the wedding" thing is she keeps messaging shit like: "open bar? SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET I'm gonna get hammered"
*face palm*
I know what she said is rude but atleast she is telling you now she isnt going to help then you be counting on her to help then she is too drunk to help with anything.
Indeed this is true... Can't wait to tell the bar staff to cut off the little drunk fool.
@vmec: She sounds like she's just baiting you... like a warped sense-of-humor. Do you have a competitive family?
@jjmomma: Nahhh, they don't (nor do I).
She's made a nasty comment about me before (through BBM) She and I were chatting civially, I might add. She was upset her mom seemed to love us more than her and her bf... and when I was telling her no... she loves all her children including you blah blah blah she says oh you'll never know what it's like you're not family and you never will be. Then posts "blood is thicker than water" (clearly for me to see.) So yeah, this was just the final straw.
I know she hates me know for fact. Oh well, I'll be the grown up from this point on :P
I don't have the cleanest language but am still finding the title of this post offensive. Honestly it had me thinking negative before I even read the post, and even then the first thing that came to my mind was that it really shouldn't be your family's responsibility to setup stuff and take it down, that's what I hired a day of coordinator for. Then again, I'd be lying if I said I didn't need help with anything, but that was just from my parents and thye had volunteered to help with a couple of things. But I guess that's really not even the issue, her attitude towards you is.
Yeah, she started it...which is pretty childish, but really the whole exchange sounds pretty childish. I agree that she is baiting you, good plan to go back to being the grown up and don't feed into her games.
Wait, she's "forced" to like you?? Regardless of if she likes you or not (I don't like one of my FSIL) it's not just YOUR wedding. Can't she just suck up her bitchiness to do something nice for her brother because I'm SURE he would have done it for her (not that I know him)
I'd fix your seating arrangement and put her farthest away from you in the reception hall....like towards the back in the worst seat so she wouldnt be forced to see you either.
@Wonderstruck: I think that's what your family is there for. To help you on your wedding day. I've never known someone to hire a day of coordinator and neither am I. Why pay someone when you have family to help you with it? Family and bridal parties are usually willing to help.
@ashleyyyg: So that they can enjoy the day too instead of working (I realize OP said it will just be a bit of work that's why she's asking more people to cut down the amount of work, but I'm speaking in general terms). Plus a DOC does this every weeken,d it's their job, so they are experts and I knew everything would be setup perfectly while I got to relax with those closest to me - I never would of been able to do that without my DOC. Looks like we're both having/had Michigan weddings, coordinators are actuall quite popular here on local boards for MI most of the girls have booked a coordinator.
But like I said, not the real issue of this post...sorry about your FSIL, OP =(
I just caught-on that this is a FSIL. Must've blanked on that when I read the post. Yikes... . Yeah, just yikes. :/
I'm confused - is she actually your sister or is she your FSIL? And honestly, if you don't like each other, I don't know why you would ask her to help in the first place. Is she a member of the wedding party? If not, I don't think she has any obligation to help you. Obviously, it would be nice if she would offer, but I don't think you can force her to. I'm also confused at why you are offended at her being 'hammered' at your wedding. You've mentioned several other times that you are going to get wasted at your wedding, so why wouldn't your guests assume it's ok to follow suit?
I think your comment of 'wow' wasn't terribly polite so you shouldn't have been surprised at her response.
I think at this point the less contact you have with each other, the better. You'll both be happier with that.
If you do need the help that badly, you would probably be better off hiring a coordinator or organizing with the venue a plan to have them assist with take-down.
@ashleyyyg: thanks. so someone who will presumably be a part of her life (however small) for the forseeable future. I don't get along with my sister either - but I know she's not going anywhere anytime soon. I literally did not have her do anything in regards to my wedding. She was a guest who was in family photos. And we were both much happier than if I had tried to force her to be involved.
Sometimes you need to pick your battles.
I wouldn't expect her to clean up. In fact, I'd be praying that she decides not to show up, period. I'm praying my FSIL doesn't show up at my wedding. I loathe my FSIL with every fiber of my being. Just her presence will put a damper on my wedding day. I definitely don't want her hanging around afterwards while we're cleaning things up. So, just thank your lucky stars that she plans on getting drunk and disappearing. She is clearly immature and a little... exactly what you called her in the post title.
@Pinksapphire: Twat did she call her? I didn't hear that?? (Please no one flag me, I couldn't help it.)
@Wonderstruck: Not everyone can afford a DOC. I've been to plenty of weddings where the family helps out, not really that big of a deal. Yeah, it would be nice to have someone do all the work afterwards, but for some people that's just an unnecessary expense. It doesn't seem that any of the OP's other relatives have a problem helping out. It's just this one kid (I'm assuming she's a kid because she acts like one) who doesn't want to do anything. What I'm sensing is that the FSIL is jealous of this situation, for whatever reason. Like, with the whole "My mommy likes you better waaa waaa waaa" thing.
Wow.. It might be painful for her to have her mother love you and your FI more than her and her BF but what an immature way to handle it. Unfortunately I agree with the others that she's baiting you and i also agree with the comment that the less time you spend together the better!
@Pinksapphire: I'm aware not everyone can afford it. I had to do some budget cuts to make it happen to, but I even said in my post that was beside the point and not the real issue her, FSIL's attitude is.
I'm not hiring DOC, not becuase I can't afford one, but because around here it's not the norm, and the few that I've been told about have been completely useless, so I don't even "believe" in them per se.
She is not obligated to help, like I said, I asked her kindly if she would. She made a lame excuse (I'm going to be hammered). In my world getting hammered isn't a reason enough not to lend a helping hand. Regardless of how drunk I'm going to get, isn't the issue, nor the focus. Nearly all of us would agree that the bride nor the groom should be 'working' to put together our day, we rely on friends and family to help us. I would ABSOULELY step up should she get married. Most for sure if she asked. And I would never consider using "drinking" as an excuse not to.
Though... my opinion has since changed and I don't think I will lift a finger to help her, but before today it wasn't even a question as to if I would or not.
Either way, the little B is out of my life (as much as humanly possible). Civil I will be, her family, I will not be.
And for whomever said regardless of how she feels about ME, this day isn't MINE, it's her beloved brothers too (they're really close). So you would think she'd be willing to step up for him, but apparently it's about not wanting to help me only.
Funny, I'm really still not regretting what I said! Usually I totally feel a twinge of guilt! I must have been totally truthful to myself, and not spoken out of sheer anger.
@Pinksapphire: LOL that post made me laugh. She's not that "young" either. She's 21 I think? So she's not like a little 15 year old. But whatever, she's acting a lot younger than I thought she would.
I deleted her BBM so I can't possibly make another snarky attack on her, nor can I see her most like "you're not blood" comments that she likely has up! So vmec, is- and shall continue to be the big grown up going forward. FSIL is a guest, not family (in my eyes) and will recive 0 special attention least from me.
Okay guys, I made one comment/possible suggestion, and then moved along three times already (or attempted to) saying it wasn't the point of the post. Let's not make this about DOCs because it's not what the OP asked about. If I could go back and edit my first post I would, but I can't.
oh my! well, i told my fav sis i would be hammered at her wedding (and i was!) but i helped so much before and at the beg of the reception. well any whoo, we all have "one of those" in our fam. good luck with that girl!
I know your post was your FSIL's attitude but the comment about hiring a DOC prompted me to respond. We needed help at our wedding 2 weeks ago setting up and tearing down. Luckily people either said they'd help or offered even before we asked. I wouldn't think of hiring a DOC because that's usually one person. Can they rearrange furniture by themselves? Set up 18 tables, 150 chairs and then decorate each table with a tablecloth, runner, silverware, candles and a centerpiece? Not to mention the bar, food tables ...etc. My husband had 15 people help at the beginning and I don't remember how many at the end but it got done quickly. It's either a do it youself wedding or pay $30,000 to a hotel and don't have to do a darn thing. I completly understand the need to ask as many people as you can.
She has a nasty attitude and you 2 will probably never get along but try to tolerate her especially the day of your wedding. Rise above the situation and be the better person all the while thinking in your head... "I should have made some laxative brownies and gave her some at the rehearsal dinner as a peace offering"!!!! ;-)
i have the same situation! and i've had some mean thoughts towards my fbil and his gf but you know what,so many people have told me as well that there are some things you cant change. It's frustrating but you're planning your day to share with the people you love and care about. If they dont care to help dont count on them to carry out responsibilities that'll disappoint you at the end. You wouldnt' want to go bridzilla on them AT the wedding. haha.
kitty126 I think you're right. If she doesn't like her and truly doesn't want to help she might cause more trouble than it's worth but knowing how this girl feels towards the poster I wouldn't trust her the day of the wedding. She may have to get an armed security guard at her own wedding to make sure...lol!!!
While she's not really being a "team player," or as helpful as we all wish family would be (and perhaps feel they should be)--it's not her duty to be your employee on your wedding day. You asked, she answered, apparently not the way you wished, but it was her right. If you want someone to do your bidding and can't count on enough free help, hire someone. Whatever you do, don't give her the satisfaction of letting her know her poor attitude gets to you because that's clearly what she's really after.
Why would you expect help from someone that you don't like and that doesn't like you? If she offered and is now backing out, that's one thing, but she's declined and you have to accept it.
It's no fun setting up and cleaning up either, so be happy that people are helping at all. Once everything's over, wait til you see how quickly everyone disappears to either go home or continue on elsewhere. I felt terrible asking people to help us pack up after breaking it all down, as I didn't want to do it either. My day started at 6am and ended at 1am and I was pooped. I wish we'd hired someone to do it too.
@smyley: I must respond to this. Before last night, we had never not 'liked' eachother. She confided in me about her mom and her feelings and I attempted to make her feel better. In fact we appeared to get along quite nicely. I've hung out with her alone before as well. So I had zero idea she "liked me only because she had too..." So that's why I asked. I felt like she was happy enough for us, especially her brother to want to help us make our big day happen. God, I couldn't have been further from the truth.
How about getting your FI involved instead of battling this one on your own? Did you tell him whats going on?
Any chance she's feeling like she's losing her brother to you? I felt that way once about one of my older brother's girlfriend when I was....15.
Could be she's lashing out on you because she feels like she's losing her brother. It's never a good idea to make a enemy of a SIL. Especially if she is truly indeed a B like you say she is. She can make your life more miserable than a MIL can.
YOU are responsible for making your "big day happen." If family/friends/in-laws want to help, that is great. Maybe she has realized that you "have never been particularly fond of her" and doesn't want to be used as just a pair of hands on your wedding day.
I have no idea if that's how she feels. She could be jealous, she could be thinkingg she's losing him. But whatever she feels, she has completely lost me and I'm not interested in ever hearing out. Saying you like me because you have to is never something you can take back. Civil, I can be friends is never.
Ummm.... she's already stating that she is excited about the open bar, planning to get "hammered" and openly hates you. Personally, I would be giving the bar a photo and putting a cap on her alcohol. Period. If they serve her a drink, put a sticker/mark on the photo so that nobody (multi-tenders?) get confused about how many she has had. When she reaches that cap, it's soda-juice-water, and she can go find her own alcohol.
It's your wedding which means that no one HAS to help you with anything. If they offer (or generously accept your request) then that's great but this girl should not be faulted for not wanting to help you especially since she's not your biggest fan. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way for someone who refers to me as a "twat".
While I don't really feel like it's a big deal that she turned down the opportunity to help-- no one HAS to, unless they're hired help-- I do feel that her saying that she's "forced" to like you is bad. How does your FI feel about that? I probably would've just told her not to come at all if she didn't like me, so you're better than I am, lol..
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