Venue: Do I have to say it’s for wedding?

posted 7 years ago in Venue
Post # 3
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

Hmmm….well it might be a fun experiment. Ask for a quote if you rent the venue for 5-6 hours for a large dinner (on the phone maybe). Then call back later and ask for a quote for a wedding reception. See what they come back with. If the quote for just the dinner is lower then you have a bargaining chip. 🙂

Post # 4
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2010

It sounds like a good idea. Someone had told me to do this, but I had already booked everything.

Post # 5
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2010

Honestly, I don’t think that you should do this with a place you actually want to use.  They’ll figure it out eventually (obviously), and then you’re known among them as someone who will lie.  I think a better tactic is to ask for the wedding price, and then ask what they would charge if this were for a reunion or party.  Then ask about the disparity— sometimes places will be more flexible then you think.  For instance, maybe the wedding package includes a champagne toast, but if you cut it they’ll knock off a few bucks per head.  Actually negotiating in good faith will probably get you farther then trying to trick them.

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

All the event contracts I have seen ask about the nature of the event, so this tactic will only get you so far. Why not simply try to negotiate with any venues you like? Or consider a space like an art gallery that isn’t typical for a wedding.

Post # 7
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

You could probably call around and ask about prices for different types of events, but I don’t think you can “pull a fast one” on one that you actually want to use. 

Post # 8
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2011

I never use the word wedding after a bad experience witha bakery. Now I ask for “event” quotes in writing. Then when I sign contracts I will use the word wedding. I have had two vendors try to raise the price on me last minute but I already had it in writing – busted.

Post # 9
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

Definitely call around and ask for pricing in terms of a “dinner event” or a “gala”. Pretend like you’re doing it for work. Then you’ll get legit pricing for rentals and food. There may be some additional charges add for cake cutting etc but for the most part you’ll get a realistic quote that way.

I’d for sure talk real numbers and dollar amounts before telling them its a wedding because if they ballpark say $5000-8000 for an event – you’ll always be on the high end. Try to get as specific an estimate as possible – then they have less wiggle room to try to overcharge.

Post # 10
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

As someone who has worked for an event venue (mostly non-wedding events, but we did do some weddings), I wouldn’t do this.  Not because your irritation at the “wedding markup” is not warranted — BECAUSE IT IS — but because they’ll figure it out pretty easily, and then they’ll be irked.  And, depending on the venue and the employees, I’d be worried about the service they’d give you once they find out.

At the venue where we worked, weddings weren’t any more expensive, so I can’t say that I’d personally have given a bride bad service if you did this, but it certainly would have left a sour taste in my mouth.  And I can’t shake the feeling that the kind of venue that would jack up the price for a wedding versus a dinner event may turn that sour taste into poor service.

Post # 11
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

i have to disagree.  when people say theres a “wedding” and you get charged more for it, its because brides tend to be a pain in the butt!  there is alot more emotion strain, physical work involved, and more staff needed.  you get what you pay for, you dont want to pay for a wedding, dont expect the service you want for a wedding.

Post # 12
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: April 2010

I didn’t notice a price difference in the venues we looked at.  Most of the venues had their pricing listed on the website.  The only price variance was for Weekday vs Weekend or Am vs PM event times.

I wouldn’t even lie and say it is for a reunion or Gala.  I would just call and ask for their price for rental/catering.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

If you feel or have heard rumors that the venues that you are interested in “upcharge” for weddings, then I think it can’t hurt to make a few preliminary calls asking about quotes for an event vs specifying that you are asking for your wedding.  I find it weird that venues would do this; there is literally no difference in the level of service required for a charity dinner than there would be for a wedding.  I can most definitely understand charging extra if the venue is going to flip the room between a ceremony and reception, or offering a day-of coordinator who is going to be more hands on than is typically required of a normal event, but just because it’s a wedding?  That’s ridiculous.  I’ve seen other bees post on here about how some venues say that there is “extra work” or “special requirements” to justify the extra cost, and I strongly encourage you to ask any venue who states this exactly what you are getting for the extra money.  Have them list it out.  I bet you that they can’t come up with anything.

 

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

If you feel or have heard rumors that the venues that you are interested in “upcharge” for weddings, then I think it can’t hurt to make a few preliminary calls asking about quotes for an event vs specifying that you are asking for your wedding.  I find it weird that venues would do this; there is literally no difference in the level of service required for a charity dinner than there would be for a wedding.  I can most definitely understand charging extra if the venue is going to flip the room between a ceremony and reception, or offering a day-of coordinator who is going to be more hands on than is typically required of a normal event, but just because it’s a wedding?  That’s ridiculous.  I’ve seen other bees post on here about how some venues say that there is “extra work” or “special requirements” to justify the extra cost, and I strongly encourage you to ask any venue who states this exactly what you are getting for the extra money.  Have them list it out.  I bet you that they can’t come up with anything.

 

Post # 16
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Sugar bee

I also dont think you should do this.  Especially with venues that do the catering as well, their wedding packages are usually different because they include things that they wouldnt with a normal dinner (champagne toast, linens, hors d’ oeuvres, etc).  Plus if you tell them its  not for a wedding and it IS a different price, you might be in for a surprise the night of your wedding when they realize it IS one and charge you for it.  In all honesty, if someone told me it was for a “party” and not a wedding and it was a different price for the wedding because of the services we provide, Id probably charge them the wedding price once I found out if those services were provided.

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